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41715   thomaswong.1986   2014 Jan 19, 8:49am  

bgamall4 says

I don't buy that at all. Most people just wanted a house for their families, and the few that were on the wave were taught by Lereah that the real estate could not crash.

If you you believed anything Lereah said, you were trully a fool.. no Lereah even back in the early 2000 was catching flack for his comments.. no wonder he left the NAR from the public pressure.

41717   thomaswong.1986   2014 Jan 19, 8:57am  

bgamall4 says

So if the doctors require that you diagnose your own illness and you screw up should you be held responsible? Lenders are responsible for telling you how much house you can afford and it was against the law to lend more to people than they could pay back. Notice the FIRREA Act of 1989 that W ignored.

Hype... it was all hype as we have seen since the Gold Rush which lured many westwards... As far as Regulations or lack of ... even the SEC act 1933/34 failed to prevent the Stock Bubble of late 90s. Even though we had Tech companies IPOs before and mindfull buying/selling was based on revenue growth, earnings, and Price to Earnings matrix. All that failed somewhere around 1995-2000...

just ask your typical bubble head why they think their home is worth $1M... there are lots of them in SF prime...

41718   hrhjuliet   2014 Jan 19, 9:03am  

bgamall4 says

So if the doctors require that you diagnose your own illness and you screw up should you be held responsible? Lenders are responsible for telling you how much house you can afford and it was against the law to lend more to people than they could pay back. Notice the FIRREA Act of 1989 that W ignored.

. It is a very different situation. I always research my own diagnosis, and in one case my research helped lead to answers for my little cousin when the doctors had said her elimination process was probably just diet. It wasn't her diet, and she needed intervention and she got it, due to my research. I agree that the banks should be punished for not following the law. But in the case of the homeowners the information WAS available and a bail out for homeowners is not a fair solution. They took a gamble, and it was a poor one. I am sorry that happened to them, but they must take responsibility for their own choices. The information was easily available and this very site was a source.

41719   Bubbabeefcake   2014 Jan 19, 9:13am  

bgamall4 says

lostand confused says

Perhaps you just aren't smart enough to see the obvious. Perhaps you are lost and confused.

41720   bob2356   2014 Jan 19, 9:18am  

Note that this article is from zero hedge. There are 500 million lines of code? I don't buy that. How about some documentation on that? Never happened with ZH.

41721   hrhjuliet   2014 Jan 19, 9:18am  

bgamall4 says

hrhjuliet says

I always research my own diagnosis,

No you research the disease, not the diagnosis.

No, I always do both. With something as important as a diagnosis or a potential disease, I would always research the heck out of them and get a second opinion, and often a third and fourth opinion.

41722   Rin   2014 Jan 19, 9:19am  

What if you drink and do some mnemonic exercises, while smashed?

Doesn't that simply kill the bad cells and strengthen the good ones?

41723   Ceffer   2014 Jan 19, 9:55am  

How did they get a bunch of drunks to take IQ tests over and over?

How did they know how they would test if sober?

If they were comparing the drunks to a less drunk or non drinking control, I would say the drunks did pretty darned good by comparison.

If you sobered them up, they might even do better than the controls.

41724   Homeboy   2014 Jan 19, 11:25am  

bgamall4 says

Apparently that was not what was seen by many, many people. You may be right, or you may not be right. You weren't there. They were.

Neither were you there. People said they saw a streak of light and then an explosion. The streak of light was the plane, on fire. The explosion was the plane exploding. No mystery there. No reason to turn it into something it was not.

41725   bob2356   2014 Jan 19, 12:19pm  

Oh of course I forgot, it's on the web so it has to be true. Every single article about the 500 million lines of code goes back to a single article in the NY Times that says "According to one specialist, the Web site contains about 500 million lines of software code" Who is this mysterious specialist and how do we know he/she is telling the truth or even knows the truth? Gee I guess no one has ever told a NY Times reporter a lie before. You think?

CGI's people wrote 500 million lines of code in less than 18 months, including analysis and design. Bullshit. A lot of you guys are coders, you know this is bullshit. No one has ever done anything even remotely close to that starting from scratch.

41726   JodyChunder   2014 Jan 19, 12:24pm  

No no, Big Mal -- honeslty, I just think that ol gal's got her salmon grabber mashed into the poor girl's face, distorting her lip upward to resemble a kind of smile.

Look to the eyes. Those are not smiling eyes.

41727   NoYes   2014 Jan 19, 12:34pm  

I'll drink to that

41728   bob2356   2014 Jan 19, 12:43pm  

Call it Crazy says

I think the results show that....

You only need 1 line of code to have a poorly designed and functioning program if you do it right.

41729   lostand confused   2014 Jan 19, 1:41pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Accenture.


I am sure they'll spend the money.


Working system and auditable performance and iron-clad security tech and protocols?


Accenture?

Well, they could have gone with Deloitte!!!

41730   Y   2014 Jan 19, 1:58pm  

So by your own sarcastic volition everything you say must be false.

bob2356 says

Oh of course I forgot, it's on the web so it has to be true.

41731   daniellamariB   2014 Jan 19, 2:32pm  

Interesting. Drinking will really give us effects such as this. Just like in smoking, which is considered life threatening since it is the cause of so much disease that lead to death. Though, drinking cause less, we can still tell that mental decline is something we should think about.

41732   Homeboy   2014 Jan 19, 2:52pm  

Crude photoshop of what she might look like if her cheek weren't being smashed upwards.

41733   bob2356   2014 Jan 19, 9:59pm  

Homeboy says

Crude photoshop of what she might look

Photoshop? You mean that there are pictures that might have been altered? You mean you can't trust what is posted on the internet? No say it ain't so joe. If it's on the internet it HAS to be true. It HAS to be true. Pictures like this PROVE there are massive hoax's being put on every day. They PROVE it!!!! Why if the pictures were photoshopped the hoax truthers would actually be hoaxers. We would have a hoax death spiral. The mind boggles at the possibilities.

Ok you can delete it now mosquito dick.

41734   bob2356   2014 Jan 19, 10:47pm  

SoftShell says

So by your own sarcastic volition everything you say must be false.

bob2356 says

Oh of course I forgot, it's on the web so it has to be true.

No, that's a very poor read of what I said. I don't believe in things that come from an obscure anonomous reference to be engraved in stone especially when they seem very unlikely. Even when someone puts them up in a very nice looking chart.

It's called skepticism, something that somehow seems to be lost when dealing with the internet. Maybe there are 500 million lines of code, but I don't know that and neither do you so your assertions that having 500 million lines of code is the problem are meaningless.

41735   bubblesitter   2014 Jan 20, 12:11am  

A "recovery" "without real income growth" that needs life support

41737   indigenous   2014 Jan 20, 12:50am  

Call it Crazy says

Why basically repeat what was in the OP????

In a word tautology

41738   tatupu70   2014 Jan 20, 12:55am  

Call it Crazy says

The median income today is about $51,000, while the median home price is
$328,000.

Source? That median home price sounds way too high.

http://ycharts.com/indicators/sales_price_of_existing_homes

says $196K

www.census.gov/const/uspricemon.pdf

is a bit out of date, but shows it in the low $200s.

41739   casandra   2014 Jan 20, 1:03am  

i published the newspaper at my school for about 10 years. the biggest problem i had when taking pictures is that some people will always look into the camera and smile, regardless the circumstances taking place. i never figured out the rhyme or reason, just realized i had to talk to them first and stage some realism!

41740   tatupu70   2014 Jan 20, 1:07am  

Call it Crazy says

We already know you don't read complete threads for the answers... Go check
out the post above from your butt-buddy, you'll find what you're looking
for....

Wow--lots of sarcasm from someone who doesn't know the difference between average and median.

Care to try again?

41741   MrEd   2014 Jan 20, 1:44am  

Then why should we believe you?bob2356 says

SoftShell says

So by your own sarcastic volition everything you say must be false.

bob2356 says

Oh of course I forgot, it's on the web so it has to be true.

I don't believe in things that come from an obscure anomonous reference

41742   tatupu70   2014 Jan 20, 1:55am  

CIC--

Since you claim I never post any data or links, here's one for you.

http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-average-and-median/

Read up!

41743   Homeboy   2014 Jan 20, 2:29am  

bgamall4 says

So what is your point?

My point is, the girl is not laughing. Her cheek and the side of her mouth are being pushed up by the woman's arm.

41744   bob2356   2014 Jan 20, 2:37am  

Call it Crazy says

Who knows how many lines there are, but the question is, can ANY company go in and re-work all the operational pieces in a few months and get it to work right??

No. What does that have to do with what I said? You're the one who said "all 500 million lines".

MrEd says

Then why should we believe you

Believe me about what? I said that in my opinion is that there isn't 500 million lines of code or even close. That's why it's called an opinion, there's nothing to believe. If I said there ARE less than 500 million lines of code then that's called a statement and you are free to believe or disbelieve me. Or even prove me wrong if you can find any proof.

41745   JodyChunder   2014 Jan 20, 4:25am  

bgamall4 says

Homeboy says

My point is, the girl is not laughing. Her cheek and the side of her mouth are being pushed up by the woman's arm.

You are one dumb fuck.

Whoah! Geezus, Big Mal! You do not cuss a guy out for simply disagreeing with you!

But...let's go with your premise: let's say the girl isn't having her face distorted by an overly huggy bear. I think it's possible that the kid is just weirded-out. She's got all kinds of chemicals coursing through her tiny brain. Adrenaline can make you pretty freaky. Mix that in with somebody taking her photo...you know, she's suddenly thrust into something very dramatic, and the eye is on her. Maybe she never received that kind of attention anywhere else ever before. Given our celebrity worship culture, I think it is not unreasonable to think she was camera conscious.

If she was smiling, it seems very likely to me that it was more to do with sheer bewilderment, and less likely a case of, "we're gonna fool them all!"

41746   Facebooksux   2014 Jan 20, 6:00am  

What's going on right now? The price is completely flat. Some circuitbreaker tripped?

Edit: NM. MLK holiday.

41747   Analyzer   2014 Jan 20, 6:54am  

humanity says

I'm not saying manipulation doesn't happen. I think that the money markets
are manipulated a little with QE. And there was a time when Gold and Silver were
manipulated by the hunt brothers. But they had their heads handed to them.

How about when upgrades/downgrades on stocks are issued? Manipulation? I think they should be banned from doing this.

41748   Y   2014 Jan 20, 12:40pm  

You are not a software engineer, thus have no qualifications to comment on this subject.
500 million lines of code is easy to achieve through inheritance, canned classes and objects that are bought 3 party to achieve rapid code development.
Unfortunately, this is at the cost of security and throughput.

bob2356 says

SoftShell says

So by your own sarcastic volition everything you say must be false.

bob2356 says

Oh of course I forgot, it's on the web so it has to be true.

No, that's a very poor read of what I said. I don't believe in things that come from an obscure anonomous reference to be engraved in stone especially when they seem very unlikely. Even when someone puts them up in a very nice looking chart.

It's called skepticism, something that somehow seems to be lost when dealing with the internet. Maybe there are 500 million lines of code, but I don't know that and neither do you so your assertions that having 500 million lines of code is the problem are meaningless.

41749   drew_eckhardt   2014 Jan 20, 1:02pm  

CaptainShuddup says

"Obama won and we "ALL" lost."

PhRMA did not loose. ACA passed with no re-import provision and they have millions of new customers headed their way, many with tax dollars in hand.

The gun industry and NRA did not loose. Background checks (required for all sales from dealers) are up 66% since Obama was elected and all ten of the record setting sales weeks followed his announcements of anti-gun schemes. NRA membership now totals 5 million.

General Motors and AIG won big. The real estate industry is doing far better than it would have without Obama's assistance appointing fed governors who buy $40B/month of their mortgage backed securities, keep interest rates down, and keep property prices up.

The military-industrial complex is still doing great. Even with the budget caps and sequestration we're matching the cold-war peak in real dollars.

41750   HydroCabron   2014 Jan 20, 1:09pm  

I guess this means an end to the "STFU Dirty Hollyweird Liberals" mantra among the Conservatarian crowd.

As soon as someone in Hollywood says something conservatives like, the rule that celebrities should have no say in politics is suspended.

41752   anonymous   2014 Jan 20, 1:42pm  

Richard and Sandra Weiner of Denville have filed suit in state Superior Court in Passaic County alleging breach of trust and fiduciary duties against Coldwell Banker of Madison and Wayne residents, and Coldwell agents, Robert Lindsay and Jeannemarie Phelan. The Weiners are seeking compensatory damages for invasion of privacy, infliction of emotional distress, breach of contract, trespass of land and other civil counts.

---------------

Is this even real?

What the hell kind of name is Richard Weiner

41753   Homeboy   2014 Jan 20, 1:52pm  

bgamall4 says

You are one dumb fuck.

Great argument. You've really convinced me.

41754   Homeboy   2014 Jan 20, 1:53pm  

bgamall4 says

Even in the phony picture, her eyes are still smiling.

I disagree.

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