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41783   tatupu70   2014 Jan 22, 2:32am  

RentingForHalfTheCost says

These 20% of people on food stamps are also buying up the $1 million+ homes
in the bay area. I see them at the open houses bidding up the price, sweetening
their bid by throwing in a few thousand dollars in food stamps. Bastards, only
if I didn't make so much money I could qualify for all this free stuff.

I'd advise you to quit your job. Then you can qualify for all the free stuff you want. Win-win.

41784   Zakrajshek   2014 Jan 22, 4:57am  

I'm not a fan of the bay area and I am happy to say that I have not contributed one cent to its over-priced real estate and never will. I don't even like to visit the area or travel through it, for the traffic, smog, and general crowding. I've been to SF and seen the dirty, littered streets and bums panhandling, and the $40 parking spaces. Anywhere there is air to breath is at least as valuable and most times much more. Its got to be hype that gets people to borrrow that much to live there. The attitude there seems to be, so you came here, now pay up and put up with all the bull, because it's the legendary bay area.

41785   hrhjuliet   2014 Jan 22, 6:24am  

I hate the Bay Area, but this is where all my family still lives. My brother is blind, and it would be terrible to move him from the home and town he grew up in. Blind people get used to their surroundings and over years and years become so well established that they can get around pretty well if they are in a very familiar place. I feel trapped by this horrible area. Trapped by the prices, greed and ditzy rich sport moms I am made to interact with all day. I would move to Portland in a second. I loved the weather there. It wasn't that different from here, just less dry. The city was clean and the people were very friendly and interesting. The moms are not the manicure obsessed dance and sport moms of the valley. It's really neat, the moms have a mind and they actually use it! They also seem to care more about their community and less about if their kid just won aother meaningless plastic trophy. There is a lot more to do there too. Here, all you can do is eat out and get drunk, and that's not fun. We have some wonderful parks, but so does Oregon. The Bay Area is not my community of choice, but stuck just the same, unless I want to see my family once a year.

41786   Carolyn C   2014 Jan 22, 7:04am  

Hrhjuliet,

I was contemplating moving to Portland Or. Sounds like my kind of place. Are there areas/neighborhoods you would recommend moving a family with pre-teens and teens. Schools are important but I have heard Oregon has excellent schools.

41787   lakermania   2014 Jan 22, 8:36am  

jazz music says

The truth:

the total federal tax burden increased during the Reagan years, and most Americans paid more in taxes after Reagan than before. The "Reagan Recovery" was unremarkable. It looks great only contrasted against the dismal Reagan Recession

Hmmmm. Must have felt great too as Reagan captured 49 out of 50 states in his 2nd term. Only if you could go back in time and tell all those people they had no reason to be happy and content in the 80s.

41788   HEY YOU   2014 Jan 22, 9:28am  

To code writers,software engineers,etc.,the NSA,CIA,FBI,Search engines,Communication corps., Advertisers & a third grader in the most rural school know more about you than you know about yourself. They have your backdoor.
They already know you are an IT Genius. LMAO

41789   Y   2014 Jan 22, 9:34am  

Wow.
If stating the obvious makes someone 'LMAO', your old lady must be in stitches under the sheets...

HEY YOU says

To code writers,software engineers,etc.,the NSA,CIA,FBI,Search engines,Communication corps., Advertisers & a third grader in the most rural school know more about you than you know about yourself. They have your backdoor.

They already know you are an IT Genius. LMAO

41790   hrhjuliet   2014 Jan 22, 10:25am  

Carolyn C says

Hrhjuliet,

I was contemplating moving to Portland Or. Sounds like my kind of place. Are there areas/neighborhoods you would recommend moving a family with pre-teens and teens. Schools are important but I have heard Oregon has excellent schools.

. Yes, the average schools there make our top schools look bad. The only concern I would have is catch up. My friend's daughter went through the sanctified Los Gatos school system and was completely unprepared for the Portland junior high she went to. She caught up, but they needed to get her a tutor. The best neighborhood by far is Goose Hollow, but it's more expensive. Brooklyn is a little bit more affordable and also a fun community for kids, same with Sellwood, but the activities are more outdoors and nature themed. Birdshill is lovely, but extremely expensive and a little snobby. West Linn and Lake Oswego are very inexpensive, but definitely a suburb feel, depends on what you are looking for. I danced for a professional ballet company there and I lived in the more metro area. I prefer a bit of city life, especially in an artistic city like Portland. If you love the arts, there is plenty to do and see.

41791   bob2356   2014 Jan 22, 11:46am  

SoftShell says

You are not a software engineer, thus have no qualifications to comment on this subject.

I was coding when nixon was president, when did you start? I still don't believe healthcare.gov has 10 to 20 times more code than Vista or Facebook and was developed in little over a year. What does all that code do? It's basically filling in a screen and sending it off. Since everyone know's I'm wrong how about proving it? Hint, anonomous comments are NOT proof.

41792   Ceffer   2014 Jan 22, 11:46am  

Reagan was the endorsement whore and Nancy the BJ Queen.

They would have made great real estate agents.

Reagan would have been great in bullion scams, like Gordon Liddy and that creepy William Devane.

It's great when the sociophaths behind the scene can delegate the task of inspiring trust in the sucker sheep.

Smoke and buy gold, trust me, hack, cough, hack!

41793   MrEd   2014 Jan 22, 12:16pm  

Its all unprovable as neither of you have source access.

41794   Ceffer   2014 Jan 22, 12:33pm  

When the capos are brought to justice, China will merely repossess SF, and lease it back to USA until 2050. It will then become a Hong Kong auxiliary protectorate.

41796   carrieon   2014 Jan 22, 12:58pm  

Small Cap Gold Stocks are up 20% in the past 30 days.

41797   thomaswong.1986   2014 Jan 22, 1:10pm  

jazz music says

The "Reagan Recovery" was unremarkable. It looks great only contrasted against the dismal Reagan Recession – but it had nothing to do with Supply Side voodoo

more people were working and paid more in taxes.. as was the case with the kennedy tax cut... jobs boomed and so did tax revenues.

41798   thomaswong.1986   2014 Jan 22, 1:11pm  

jazz music says

pathetic that we have to look back longingly on a criminal justice system that had some function against the powerful.

you prefer Mondale... oh thats rich! the reason you can look back is because
your not speaking russian...

41799   thomaswong.1986   2014 Jan 22, 1:15pm  

jazz music says

How can it be that most Americans don't remember the Reagan administration for its corruption?

it must eat you up he was able to free half of europe from tyranny..

corruption ? , see the experts from Chicago regarding corruption.

41800   curious2   2014 Jan 22, 1:17pm  

Oh - no worries - UnitedHealth Group is "overseeing the entire operation" - the site is working as intended, maximizing revenues. The "tech surge" consulting fees are merely an appetizer. Remember, UnitedHealth is where Bill McGuire helped himself to $1 billion personally; that's their big expertise, if you want to line someone's pockets with $1 billion, they're the folks with experience.

41801   thomaswong.1986   2014 Jan 22, 1:18pm  

"What we have revealed is a secret offshore holdings of families of the leaders of China," he said."

Leaders of China = Communist, not allowed in this country nor is their money... sounds like their cash, assets, property and financial interest will get confiscated. Its been done before and will be done again.

41802   Entitlemented   2014 Jan 22, 1:28pm  

Least their in the BVI. Love that Bitter End Yacht club!

41803   Entitlemented   2014 Jan 22, 1:35pm  

Thats right. If Mondale was elected he would have freed the captives in IRAN and met Gorbo in Iceland.

And if the Wright Brothers did not build and fly a plane in Kitty Hawk in 1903, the Aircraft Mechanics Union would have!

But wait, according to Lawyer 1, the Wright Brothers did not build that!

41804   thomaswong.1986   2014 Jan 22, 2:33pm  

And yet Reagan still far more than Clinton and Obama could ever do...

41805   thomaswong.1986   2014 Jan 22, 2:43pm  

jazz music says

third-party aid for the Nicaraguan contras.

have you heard the news... Nicaragua is turning into a Dictatorship !
Sandinista Danial Ortega are looking to become Dictator for life scrapping peace and democracy.

Guess Reagan got his number right long long ago...

41806   thomaswong.1986   2014 Jan 22, 2:59pm  

Call it Crazy says

The most overvalued housing market in America (Bay Area)

its actually cheaper to live in SoCal.. how about that !

41807   indigenous   2014 Jan 22, 3:14pm  

I always thought Reagan did a good job but according to Stockman and Rothbard he did not. Not regarding spending, deficit reduction, regulation, or even tax reduction because of bracket creep and a higher rate for SS. Worst of all Rothbard said Reagan was really a Keynesian which is what Krugman claims.

http://mises.org/daily/1544

So why did the economy do as well as it did? Don't know but I would guess demographics and dropping the gold standard which allowed for inflation in reality borrowing money from holders of the reserve currency of the world.

Reagan did consider putting us back on the gold standard and dismissed the idea.

41808   Y   2014 Jan 22, 10:56pm  

bottom line: if you write most of the code yourself, the line number will be minimized.
if you rely on third party software packages to augment your base code your line count will rise exponentially.

41809   Y   2014 Jan 22, 10:59pm  

This one single line sums up your ignorance on the subject.
However, I would not be too worried as 99.9999% of the population are with you.

bob2356 says

It's basically filling in a screen and sending it off.

41810   FortWayne   2014 Jan 22, 11:59pm  

At this rate soon the only people in jail will be ex-realtors and druggies.

41811   RentingForHalfTheCost   2014 Jan 23, 12:35am  

tatupu70 says

RentingForHalfTheCost says

These 20% of people on food stamps are also buying up the $1 million+ homes

in the bay area. I see them at the open houses bidding up the price, sweetening

their bid by throwing in a few thousand dollars in food stamps. Bastards, only

if I didn't make so much money I could qualify for all this free stuff.

I'd advise you to quit your job. Then you can qualify for all the free stuff you want. Win-win.

Did it already!

41812   edvard2   2014 Jan 23, 12:35am  

Carolyn C says

I was contemplating moving to Portland Or. Sounds like my kind of place. Are there areas/neighborhoods you would recommend moving a family with pre-teens and teens. Schools are important but I have heard Oregon has excellent schools.

I've visited Portland twice. All I can say is that personally I didn't really care for it. Some people falsely claim its like the Bay Area. I found it to be nothing like it. The weather for one is awful. Cold, wet, rainy weather for months on end. I think some people forget how much weather plays a part in one's mood and if I were to live there I'd go nuts for the weather alone.

41813   SJ   2014 Jan 23, 12:45am  

The weather sucks in Portland and Seattle. That is why living there would be hard for me.

41814   Tenpoundbass   2014 Jan 23, 12:46am  

tatupu70 says

CaptainShuddup says

That's 20% that will vote according to how their bread is buttered.


Good job Obama.


Oh well, the GOP always has Gerrymandering.

Hate to burst your bubble Cap'n, but you're wrong.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-gop-is-the-food-stamp-party/

"Despite Gingrich’s racial connotations, the majority of Americans who use food stamps are white, and they increasingly live in Republican areas"

You're missing the whole point of buying votes.

You certainly don't have to pay your church choir to sing.
So it would only make sense that Obama would focus most in Red states, to get them on the Foodstamp wagon.

Understand just because the GOP in Washington scoffs at food stamps I think most Americans that need food stamps don't consider their parties Washington's politics before they would take them.
More over, as person's preference, of rather having a job than hand outs, is still valid, even if they are "FORCED" to take foodstamps because they have a family to feed. But that doesn't mean, that they don't wish that Washington was doing more to create jobs, rather than focusing on creating default Liberal voters. Who vote (as you Liberals always like to say) according to their interests. So if you have a conservative farmer in Iowa who's been on foodstamps for the last 5 years, is going to have a hard time choosing the next president, based on his Food insecurity.

Nice Job, good Job you go, I sure hope your proud of your self. And I like the extra added "Classy" zinger you crisp them with, chastising them for Ryand Paul's comments. Political Creeps!

41815   Entitlemented   2014 Jan 23, 12:47am  

Presidents make decisions that are bad.

Clinton: CRA and easy no down loans: Ponzi housing bubble - worst Recession since 1930s

Clinton: When it was found that the WTC parking lot in 1993 and then two embassies had been blown up by Bin Laden, he sent out a Special Ops team to find him then would not capture or incapacitate him. Then 911 happened, and the wars.

Clinton: NAFTA was debated by many, and the only Person with a Manufacturing business running Perot said it would create a Giant suckiing sound and people of the US would be working for near minimum wage jobs.

Some the other issues here are true, the actions of 1 President sent this country into a triplicate tailspin that we have yet to recovery from.

After working right out of college for the Federal Goverment, I could not believe the waste- Reagan was 1000% right on limited goverment. Clinton proved what "unlimited" government would get us.

41816   New Renter   2014 Jan 23, 1:56am  

jazz music says

He thought we could actually recall submarine-launched nuclear missiles (talk about a Reagan myth)

I think that is a misunderstanding of what Regan actually said. Regan was saying land based ICBMs once launched could not be recalled whereas bombers, submarines and ships CAN be recalled. Once launched the missiles cannot be recalled (although perhaps deactivated in flight) but prior to that yes the vehicles carrying the weapons can be ordered to stand down.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1499&dat=19841022&id=RHQjAAAAIBAJ&sjid=vX4EAAAAIBAJ&pg=7105,2011798

41817   mmmarvel   2014 Jan 23, 2:20am  

edvard2 says

I've visited Portland twice. All I can say is that personally I didn't really
care for it. Some people falsely claim its like the Bay Area. I found it to be
nothing like it. The weather for one is awful. Cold, wet, rainy weather for
months on end. I think some people forget how much weather plays a part in one's
mood and if I were to live there I'd go nuts for the weather alone.

I rarely agree with Edvard2 (okay, I've NEVER agreed) BUT as someone who lived there (Portland) for over 50 years, all I can say is 'Hope you like the rain'. I said in a different post but it's worth repeating - Portlanders have a saying, 'We have two seasons, the rainy season and August.' And there is a LOT of truth in that saying. Can you live for 90 days without seeing a hint of blue sky? Can you really? Have you ever done it? Well move to Portland and you can answer that question. How does 90 straight days of high temp never climbing above 60 and lows varying from 25 to 47 set with you? Cause that is what you'll get. Not to mention days upon days upon days of rain. No not the hard, swell rivers, cause flooding kind of rain (they get that rarely). More like the depressing, damp, light rain (more than a drizzle) that goes on and on and on. Yeah, THAT would be Portland.

41818   indigenous   2014 Jan 23, 2:32am  

Entitlemented says

Clinton: NAFTA was debated by many, and the only Person with a Manufacturing business running Perot said it would create a Giant suckiing sound and people of the US would be working for near minimum wage jobs.

Free trade is not a bad idea but why did the agreement require 900 pages.

Actually it was about mercantilism. Interesting subject

41819   FunTime   2014 Jan 23, 2:41am  

Portland is a great city. Great music scene. Really creative businesses and entrepreneurs. Maybe because it takes unique people to live there.
I lived there for almost four years and was in the NW almost ten. I told myself the whole time that the weather didn't bother me. Then I moved to San Francisco. Boy was I kidding myself. I had an overwhelming sense of euphoria for almost a year.

41820   RentingForHalfTheCost   2014 Jan 23, 2:52am  

DJIA drops of 200-300 a day will be the new norm. Good for gold in the long run. Hope everyone is accumulating or kiss your savings goodbye.

41821   HEY YOU   2014 Jan 23, 3:06am  

Wonder how many Red State Rep/Con/Tea Dregs of society are on any Big Govt. Social program?
SOCIALISTS!

41822   edvard2   2014 Jan 23, 3:15am  

thomaswong.1986 says

And yet Reagan still far more than Clinton and Obama could ever do...

Its always entertaining to see some people seemingly forget that Reagan in the end was a fairly ineffective President. Interesting now that conservatives place him on a pedestal and proclaim good deeds he never even did.

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