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43832   tatupu70   2014 Mar 10, 11:11pm  

Reality says

so in order for numbers to comparable, one would have to use the same
methodology.

I see. So to compare inflation back to the 1900s, we should look at the price of horse drawn carraiges and kerosine?

43833   tatupu70   2014 Mar 10, 11:12pm  

Reality says

It gets worse than that: at some point, whatever little room each of us make for
government coercion will one day paint the person as socialist when people in
the future work out better market solutions.

Government coercion? What the hell are you talking about?

43834   tatupu70   2014 Mar 10, 11:13pm  

Reality says

Gasoline in 2000 was at or below $1 per gallon. Today, it is around $3.50 per
gallon. 68% increase would be understatement.

Yes, because cherry picking the one commodity that has increased the most is how one should measure inflation.

43835   spydah_hh   2014 Mar 10, 11:19pm  

Tim Aurora says

That is a very broad definition of socialism and very narrow definition of capitalism.

It is what it is there is no grey areas when defining these two forms of governments. Socialism is just a form of government intervention (centralize market) and in most cases a redistribution of wealth. Free Markets is what it says, a free market enterprise where there is very little to no government intervention in markets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_market
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

43836   spydah_hh   2014 Mar 10, 11:27pm  

tatupu70 says

I see. So to compare inflation back to the 1900s, we should look at the price of horse drawn carraiges and kerosine?

Oh this guy with his love of the CPI again. You're not understanding are you? You're still not getting it are you?

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/07/consumerpriceindex.asp
http://www.kitco.com/ind/Turk/turk_jan252008.html
http://www.silverdoctors.com/ron-paul-chained-cpi-chains-taxpayers/

The ShadowStats CPI eliminates the changes made by the US government since the early 1980s to its own CPI measure. In other words, the ShadowsStats CPI is the same one the US government used to calculate inflation while Jimmy Carter was president.

The changes made by the government to its CPI were clearly introduced to lessen reported CPI inflation. A lower inflation rate reduces the cost-of-living increases the US government makes to welfare and Social Security recipients, thereby reducing its budget deficit. Welfare and Social Security recipients suffer the consequences. Their purchasing power is reduced because the payments they receive do not keep up with the real rate of inflation.

You can also say this goes for workers wages as well.

43837   tatupu70   2014 Mar 11, 1:22am  

Call it Crazy says

Well, that settles it..... There's a NATIONWIDE inventory shortage because
there is limited houses to buy on Tat's street!!!

lol--you post NJ data and now you're trying to claim nationwide? You are the poster boy for disingenuous.

43838   tatupu70   2014 Mar 11, 1:26am  

Here's the actual nationwide numbers in case you wanted to be honest for once.

"Inventory rose 2.2 percent by the end of January to 1.90 million existing homes on the market. At the current sales pace that represents a 4.9-month supply, up from December's 4.6-month supply. January's inventory was also up 7.3 percent from the year before. Realtors consider the market to be balanced between supply and demand when there is a 6-month supply."

http://www.realestateabc.com/outlook.htm

43839   indigenous   2014 Mar 11, 2:08am  

He did not seem to be so inclined with Syria?

Where does Soros fit into the NWO thing?

43840   NDrLoR   2014 Mar 11, 2:10am  

"and, if possible, avoid future large-scale war."

It's encouraging to know that unlike the misguided dreamers of 1914-1918, there really will never be another war.

43841   RentingForHalfTheCost   2014 Mar 11, 2:32am  

Call it Crazy says

tatupu70 says

At the current sales pace that represents a 4.9-month supply

Almost a 5 month supply.... Gee, there's NOTHING to buy since we aren't at a 6 month supply..... Really??

To be fair. You are stretching things a bit when the data calculates a 4.9 and you exaggerate that all the way to 5! That is a whole 0.1 of BS. How can anyone believe you now in the face of the fully substantiated clame from tatapupoo that his area doesn't have inventory. The deep research of going door to door and tabulating all the data is far superior than your over-exaggeration. I mean adding a 0.1 to the number just to make your case. Shame on you and a big high-five to tatupupoo for all his hard work. I just went out and bought the 4 houses that were in his neighborhood so now that really is no inventory. I guess that means the home prices are going to approach infinity. Only Bill Gates could afford to be his neighbor now. Good on Tatapupoo, bad on CIC.

43842   control point   2014 Mar 11, 2:33am  

Reality says


What if you are wrong, and inflation isn't 4%. Then what happens to your
thesis?


I said 4% or more. 4% was probably understatement.

That doesn't answer the question. I know you think the statement is correct - What if you are wrong, what does that do to your thesis?

43843   indigenous   2014 Mar 11, 2:41am  

bgamall4 says

Soros is NWO. Now, he thinks that the NWO could be used for good, for stopping bad loans, etc. I think he is wrong, totally wrong.

Since Soros is linked with O, wouldn't that indicate that the Dems are also NWO?

Yup Soros is a first rate sociopath. He brags about his child hood experiences with the Nazis. This fellow should be buried 100' deep, a 100' because deep down under he is good.

43844   tatupu70   2014 Mar 11, 2:53am  

Reality says

You confuse "how BLS CPI is measured by the BLS" vs. "how inflation is
measured."

No, no confusion there. I have it correct.

43845   tatupu70   2014 Mar 11, 2:56am  

Call it Crazy says

Who's disingenuous?? I post statewide data and you want to drop it down to your
neighborhood to support YOUR narrative.... Wow!!!

That would be you. The thread was about nationwide and you had to post statewide data to try to keep to your narrative. Pretty sad.

Call it Crazy says

Almost a 5 month supply.... Gee, there's NOTHING to buy since we aren't at a
6 month supply..... Really??


Low inventory, Low inventory, Low inventory,.... Rah, Rah, Rah....


What else do you want to "parrot"???

Yes. The point is that at a 5 month supply, prices will be expected to rise. There's a pretty strong inverse correlation between inventory and prices. Less suppy, higher prices. More supply, lower prices. It is probably the #1 predictor of future prices.

43846   indigenous   2014 Mar 11, 3:09am  

bgamall4 says

but like I say, when it comes to war, the Dems are much more reluctant to help the NWO.

LBJ, FDR, Wilson were quite happy to cause war, that idea does not hold water.

bgamall4 says

We have the Sandy Hook Hoax, which was the Dem's version of 9/11 conspiracy

Were all of the school shootings a hoax?

43847   indigenous   2014 Mar 11, 3:32am  

bgamall4 says

LBJ was NWO. It could be that the NWO overcame JFK throught LBJ. Wilson was influenced by the NWO. FDR fought against the NWO. There was a potential coup that was set against him. WW2 was a defensive war.

FDR was as complicit in the war as Hiro Hito or Hitler. He just had a couple of tricks he learned from Edward Bernays.

43848   indigenous   2014 Mar 11, 3:33am  

bgamall4 says

Good question. Who knows? Sandy Hook was exposed because people talked too much and we saw their actions as well. Some say Aurora was fake.

I know there were actors at the Boston Bombing, and that is a disturbing fact. The blood at the Boston Bombing looked like red paint. It was fake.

I don't think you are too far off the mark regarding the NWO, but the other is crazy talk.

In fact the drugs are more likely a tool of the NWO, it is Soma for the non malleable.

43849   tatupu70   2014 Mar 11, 3:34am  

Call it Crazy says

Let's see what YOU posted regarding the nationwide OP:

Actually, this is what I posted about nationwide OP:

tatupu70 says

Here's the actual nationwide numbers in case you wanted to be honest for once.


"Inventory rose 2.2 percent by the end of January to 1.90 million existing homes on the market. At the current sales pace that represents a 4.9-month supply, up from December's 4.6-month supply. January's inventory was also up 7.3 percent from the year before. Realtors consider the market to be balanced between supply and demand when there is a 6-month supply."


http://www.realestateabc.com/outlook.htm

tatupu70 says

Not in my area we're not.

is what I posted in response to your post about NJ data.

43850   Bellingham Bill   2014 Mar 11, 3:52am  

tatupu70 says

Yes, because cherry picking the one commodity that has increased the most is how one should measure inflation.

Things we buy from China have little inflation:

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=sXm

things China buys with our money has a lot of inflation.

Fucking currencies; how do they work??

43851   indigenous   2014 Mar 11, 3:53am  

bgamall4 says

And you say Sandy Hook Hoax was not related to the New World Order?

So was the moon landing fake as well? Can they get that many people to lie?

That is crazy talk.

43852   FortWayne   2014 Mar 11, 4:28am  

Straw Man says

This is 100% Russian propaganda.

Who owns Aljazeera, isn't that Al Gore? I'd say that's our own stuff.

43853   indigenous   2014 Mar 11, 5:26am  

bgamall4 says

To think that no conspiracy happened, when you look at Sandy Hook, 9/11, etc, is to lack intellectual integrity. Study diligently.

How so?

43854   ttsmyf   2014 Mar 11, 6:54am  

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Tuesday, March 11, 2014 __ Level is 104.3

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

43855   lostand confused   2014 Mar 11, 8:38am  

The Ukraine crisis is one of the few reasons I appreciate Obama and dems. Does one really think we can declare war on Russia? Russia has very little debt, huge surplus and still growing at close to 4-5% a year.

Russia and Ukraine have a history that goes back longer than America has been in existance. Strong rhetroic is enough-ain't gonna solve that one if we tried anything . Old McCain is a one trick pony and hasn't seen anything that he doesn't want to bomb. Stop focusing on the world and focus on our own problems-is that too much to ask.

43856   HydroCabron   2014 Mar 11, 9:00am  

Call it Crazy says

The ongoing crisis in Russia and Ukraine has, for some, highlighted deficiencies in President Obama’s foreign policy (or lack thereof).

Ukraine happened because Obama was acting like John Wayne, not in spite of it.

The toppling of the pro-Russian regime was a consequence of CIA and other U.S. government backing for the opposition and the protesters. Putin saw it, rightly, as western meddling in his backyard: meddling which I happen to agree was a good thing.

Perhaps we should return foreign police to the neocons. After all, they have such an excellent track record: as the architects of the end of Sunni rule in Iraq, they are the best friends Iran ever had. But this is just one blemish on their otherwise flawless record of failure.

43857   corntrollio   2014 Mar 11, 9:22am  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

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Last I checked, those space alien quadrillionaires defecate gold-pressed latinum, not platinum.

43858   corntrollio   2014 Mar 11, 10:12am  

It'd be nice if the student loan interest deduction didn't phase out. Beyond that, I think the government has probably gone way too far into the student loan business and is over-subsidizing universities, particularly shitty for-profit ones.

43859   corntrollio   2014 Mar 11, 11:01am  

SFace says

The biggest change in stock compensation over the decade is the popularity of RSU's, PSU's in lieu of options, especially if you are not the first several hundred seed employees. stock units guarantees a payday (if liquidity hurdle is cleared) albeit you lose the upside of sheer options where the price explodes and you hold say 30K options and benefit on the increment than say 10K units where you benefit from the entire price.

Oh please, I know what the typical rank and file employee in the Valley gets in terms of RSUs. It's not that much. Again, a nice down payment, but not 4 houses. Sometimes it's based on a percentage of your base salary or base salary + bonus, sometimes based on other things. Depends on company.

SFace says

The thing is if you hit on the right company, at the right time, at the right executive level from someone I know.

Right, I already said that. If you are a key employee, possibly big bucks for you. Rank and file, no. We are talking about small numbers of people here, relatively speaking. I know several people like that too -- they are very much the minority.

SFace says

People who made their wealth in the dotcom eras are the buyers the last 10 years in the valley. People who makes their wealth now, will drive demand for their next generation.

They are, but again, only a small number of buyers, relatively speaking. Do they influence the market? Of course they do, but they aren't the whole market.

43860   indigenous   2014 Mar 11, 12:32pm  

bgamall4 says

You need to take what I am saying about 9/11 seriously. A real crime by our own leaders has been created there.

You have not indicated evidence?

FDR instigated both theaters. It is common for political leaders to do this to divert attention from their own transgressions. Too bad there is no money in playing it straight.

43861   indigenous   2014 Mar 11, 1:27pm  

bgamall4 says

Listen to it carefully, not just the part where he goes on to talk about a false flag against Iran.

Yes regarding the examples they gave but there was nothing said about 9/11?

43862   indigenous   2014 Mar 11, 1:34pm  

That is your idea of proof?

43863   Bigsby   2014 Mar 11, 1:52pm  

bgamall4 says

I wrote this, and it could help some people:

www.amazon.com/False-Flag-Murdering-Neocon-Crazies-ebook/dp/B00DVDJQGW/

Bigsby must be on a New World Order vacation, lol.

No, I'm just utterly bored with your inane and repetitive drivel.

43864   indigenous   2014 Mar 11, 1:53pm  

Popular Mechanics explained this it had to do with no sprinklers the point that steel looses strength and that once the top floor goes the momentum takes out the floors below it one at a time.

43865   Bigsby   2014 Mar 11, 2:41pm  

bgamall4 says

indigenous says

Popular Mechanics explained this it had to do with no sprinklers the point that steel looses strength and that once the top floor goes the momentum takes out the floors below it one at a time.

It would have taken too much time to take out the floors one at a time. There was not time for the floors to pancake, and if you look at the video above, you will see that there was no pancaking, only a fall of all the floors simultaneously. The floors remained intact all the way to the ground. All the pins were removed at the very same time.

http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC%20STUDY%208-06%20w%20clarif%20as%20of%209-8-06%20.pdf

43866   indigenous   2014 Mar 11, 3:16pm  

Bigsby says

http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC%20STUDY%208-06%20w%20clarif%20as%20of%209-8-06%20.pdf

Thanks Bigsby

bgamall4

I put you on ignore before because of too many inanities... Actual experts on the subject are more believable than your ideas.

I will say that before almost every war the leaders have instigated it one way or another. But this one is over the top even for them.

43867   indigenous   2014 Mar 11, 3:24pm  

bgamall4 says

Really. So, when the website Bigsby provides says it doesn't know why WTC7 fell, the only way to squirm out of their debunking failure, you believe them?

That in conjunction with the Popular Mechanics article, yup, the rest of the instigation s by FDR, Wilson, LBJ, Lincoln are easily shown

43868   Bigsby   2014 Mar 11, 9:29pm  

bgamall4 says

And your stupid site, Implosion world concludes they don't know why WTC7 fell. Got that Bigsby? They give up. It looks like a demolition when compared to other demolitions. It starts with the bottom floors imploding and the floors keep their structure as they fall into the footprint. The fall was nearly at the rate of gravity. No pancaking is observed at the real demolition or the WTC7 Side by Side. And so, with all that evidence the cover up website says they don't know why the hell it fell!

Drink some hemlock Bigsby. Do us all a favor.

Unlike you, most people don't claim to know exactly how something happened - they posit logical arguments based on the evidence at hand rather than blind assertions based on others' Youtube videos. The people who wrote that article aren't claiming it to be an explanation of the mechanics of how the buildings collapsed, it relates to what they know about demolition - something you seem to think you are an expert on but which these people actually are. Is that why you seem so worked up in your responses?

43869   Bigsby   2014 Mar 12, 1:50am  

bgamall4 says

Hey Bigsby, you said before that there was no New World Order. Hagel says there is. Just another lie on your ledger.

Good grief. He isn't arguing that there is a 'New World Order' the way you mean it you plum.

43870   corntrollio   2014 Mar 12, 5:11am  

Reminds me of the Japanese in the late 80s/early 90s...

43871   Tenpoundbass   2014 Mar 12, 6:51am  

In all fairness I remember hearing stories about H. W. Bush, how out of touch he was. He hadn't actually personally paid for anything throughout most of his adult life. He didn't know how a credit card worked, nor did he have a personal one. I remember stories, that if you were a new person in his campaigns and various political ventures, you might be stuck with picking up the tab, until you could be reimbursed.

This was a topic at the time, because here he was campaigning for the Luxury tax, the very tax that killed a South Florida billions of dollars a year Boat and high end cars industry.

Having said that, he sure seems more like a Bush every day.

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