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44033   tts   2014 Mar 14, 6:16am  

No even in Texas there aren't a lot of jobs. What jobs there are usually have crap pay, just like everywhere else.

Despite all the propaganda about Texas as some sort of economic miracle the reality is quite different.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/march_april_may_2014/features/oops_the_texas_miracle_that_is049289.php?page=all

44034   New Renter   2014 Mar 14, 6:57am  

mmmarvel says

Call it Crazy says

Move to New Jersey.... We have propane!!!

Move to Texas ... we have, um ... guns. Yeah, guns and hot weather and low prices on the houses.

Thanks for the tempting offer but I hate sweating. I want my $235k dream house house to be in the real bay area so I don't have to sweat or get rained on.

44035   New Renter   2014 Mar 14, 7:03am  

Strategist says

Call it Crazy says

Strategist says

His severed penis should be stuffed down his own throat and made to swallow.

Are you talking about your Motel 6 adventures again???

The only penis I ever touch is my own.

Any woman I touch has to be rated a "9" or else I'm not interested.

Five beers plus a "4" equals a "9"

44036   David9   2014 Mar 14, 7:28am  

tts says

No even in Texas there aren't a lot of jobs. What jobs there are usually have
crap pay, just like everywhere else.


Despite all the propaganda about Texas as some sort of economic miracle the
reality is quite different.

Thank you very much for this.

I have personal experience in the Texas job market exactly as you have stated.

For the lurkers:

Late 2004, when many were calling this website all sorts of names such as a hoax, stupid, dumbass, ignorant, etc.

"That Real Estate could never go down."
"Buy Now or Forever be Priced Out"

After being upside down for 10 years after the Northridge earthquake, I sold my condo in the armpit of the San Fernando Valley.

To make a long story short, I wanted to pay cash for a property. Hmm, bubble, bubble, bubble everywhere,
except Texas..

At the time, I did not see how I could fail. Even if I did not like it there, I can work, save money, and move on.

All I needed was a job.

Again, cutting short, a six month contract here, a two month contract there, contracts in other states, this is not what I planned for or expected.

It would be easy for me to go negative regarding some of the interviews I had, they were unique to Texas.
"You don't know what is on page 72 of the blah blah manual?" "No, but I will be happy to look it up quickly, etc.."
Literal knee slapping, "He doesn't know what is on page 72!"

I believe I was 'filler' interview. They already knew who they were going to hire. They just needed a body/victim for another slot.

As for the subject of the thread, I still have that property in Texas I could sell if I want too. I am preapproved for a loan. I have the 10% downpayment.

I have come to the conclusion I just really don't want to buy right now. A few properties are cute. Is just because it is available in this low inventory reason enough to purchase if I am not thrilled? Maybe it is just me, but how is 'unsustainable bubble price' (2005) = 'real estate recovery value' (2014)? My 10% down can buy a lot of airline tickets and hotel rooms.

Just booked a Fourth of July getaway in Manhattan.

Woo Hoo!

44037   anonymous   2014 Mar 14, 7:28am  

44038   David9   2014 Mar 14, 8:07am  

Call it Crazy says

You're going to visit jojo???

If you mean this restaurant:

http://www.jojorestaurantnyc.com/

Certainly looks like an excellent high end choice for dining.

I am excited already.

Absolutely love long weekends in New York City, a broadway show, good food, fine dine or not, museums, entertainment, and I can say I have friends in 2 boroughs!

44039   ttsmyf   2014 Mar 14, 8:20am  

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Friday, March 14, 2014 __ Level is 102.5

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

44040   David9   2014 Mar 14, 9:16am  

Call it Crazy says

No, this jojo.... He lives in Manhattan

Ok, I'll put behind me a couple of my buddy email requests went unanswered. ha ha

If he wants, I would be happy to meet JoJo the Fourth of July weekend in Manhattan.

Certainly could find a public place for a coffee and a bagel.
Everything with cream cheese.

44041   tts   2014 Mar 14, 9:24am  

Call it Crazy says

You need to CREATE a job, then your problems will be solved...

You need lots of money + luck to create your own job though.

And that is in a good economy. Even then most fail.

Our economy isn't good and hasn't been for a long while now so talk of creating your own job is so grossly unrealistic as to be borderline insulting.

Its like telling a starving man in a desert to just go get some more food if he is hungry.

44042   New Renter   2014 Mar 14, 9:57am  

That's exactly what spam email filters were invented for....

44043   tts   2014 Mar 14, 10:02am  

So snazzy resum- I mean flyer + bugging the shit out some execs via email will 'Create' you your job?

I hope you're just trolling cuz' if you're not then that means you're hopelessly out of touch with reality.

Both because it'd mean you think no one has thought of that idea before + because those execs are just gonna delete those emails if they don't already have them spam blocked. These people have HR dept. for a reason and so do not want to do deal with hiring anyone much less desperate people.

44044   New Renter   2014 Mar 14, 10:19am  

Call it Crazy says

New Renter says

That's exactly what spam email filters were invented for....

Which is why you'll always be a wage slave renter...

So begging for a non existant wage paying job is somehow better than applying for a known need of the company? You really think executives will not just automatically delete the unsolicited resume but actually read it rather than sending it to the HR incinerator? That such a resume isn't treated with the same distain as advertisments for all "natutal penis enlargement" products and "hot horny housewives that want to hook up" with your fat aged balding ass?

Well I'll just Call that Crazy!

44045   Strategist   2014 Mar 14, 10:22am  

Call it Crazy says

This is what I meant when I said to "Create" your new job.....

What you're saying is......do something different, be persistent, never give up.
Yes, it works. Good advice.

44046   Strategist   2014 Mar 14, 10:26am  

New Renter says

Call it Crazy says

New Renter says

That's exactly what spam email filters were invented for....

Which is why you'll always be a wage slave renter...

So begging for a non existant wage paying job is somehow better than applying for a known need of the company? You really think executives will not just automatically delete the unsolicited resume but actually read it rather than sending it to the HR incinerator? That such a resume isn't treated with the same distain as advertisments for all "natutal penis enlargement" products and "hot horny housewives that want to hook up" with your fat aged balding ass?

Well I'll just Call that Crazy!

Wrong attitude. Think outside the box.

44047   tts   2014 Mar 14, 10:30am  

But its not different. Or thinking outside the box.

Lots of people do that and have for years. There is even a small cottage industry of people who will even make your 'flyer' for you for starting around $50-75.

The comparison to penis enlargement ads is apt since those sort of emails are treated exactly the same: they aren't even looked at, just sent to the trash folder. To the best of my knowledge that has been true since at least 2002 when I first of heard of this sort of thing.

But the idea of bypassing HR and sending your resume or a letter to an exec is nothing new at all and has been around for decades at a minimum. Generally those execs don't like it either.

The most you can expect is a terse, 'contact HR and stop bugging me' response. Usually they won't even send you that but they will remember to not hire you if your resume gets forwarded from HR. Why? They want people, even the creative idea people, who follow the rules and established social structures.

You can think outside the box all you want, you just better not try and actually go outside the box.

44048   Strategist   2014 Mar 14, 10:44am  

tts says

But its not different. Or thinking outside the box.

Lots of people do that and have for years. There is even a small cottage industry of people who will even make your 'flyer' for you for starting around $50-75.

The comparison to penis enlargement ads is apt since those sort of emails are treated exactly the same: they aren't even looked at, just sent to the trash folder. To the best of my knowledge that has been true since at least 2002 when I first of heard of this sort of thing.

But the idea of bypassing HR and sending your resume or a letter to an exec is nothing new at all and has been around for decades at a minimum.

You seem very discouraged and appear to have quit even before you began.
It's not gonna help you. You are setting yourself up to fail.
I'm not trying to be mean, just giving some constructive criticism.
Try motivational audios. Lots on Youtube.

44049   tts   2014 Mar 14, 10:50am  

See if someone gives you reasons why there is a problem with a given idea or situation then you can't claim they're setting themselves up to fail or have self motivational issues.

Because, you know, there is a problem there.

Also even if you say you're not trying to be mean you're still going to come across as at least mildly insulting since you're, you know, ignoring the problem brought up and instead saying, "no the problem is you" which is actually pretty difficult to do without knowing someone extensively IRL.

44050   tts   2014 Mar 14, 10:52am  

Call it Crazy says

Yep, they both have poor attitudes and they wonder why they can't FIND a job

I have a job. I have also been out of work in the last 2 years and also have empathy for my fellow man in what is, well known to be too, a pretty bad economy for the non rich.

Interesting how you know all the sudden how the people disagreeing with you, who you don't actually know at all, don't have jobs. That is some pretty amazing intuition you've got.

Call it Crazy says

I've used it in the past, all my kids used it, and other people I've told all used it to get the jobs they wanted....

Of the several different employers I've worked for over the years, big and small, all claimed to have gotten numerous of such emails. None of them, not even the small guys I worked for, cared or were impressed with them. All of them deleted them with hardly a glance.

44051   Strategist   2014 Mar 14, 11:01am  

tts says

See if someone gives you reasons why there is a problem with a given idea or situation then you can't claim they're setting themselves up to fail or have self motivational issues.

Because, you know, there is a problem there.

Also even if you say you're not trying to be mean you're still going to come across as at least mildly insulting since you're, you know, ignoring the problem brought up and instead saying, "no the problem is you" which is actually pretty difficult to do without knowing someone extensively IRL.

I apologize. That was not my intent.

44052   indigenous   2014 Mar 14, 11:06am  

I will add that if you cannot see that what you are talking about (MEWs) was not caused by what I'm talking about then you have a perfunctory understanding of the subject.

44053   tts   2014 Mar 14, 11:10am  

Call it Crazy says

An employer wants to know what you'll do for THEM and how you'll benefit the company.

A flashy flyer doesn't convey that sort of information any better than a resume typed up in notepad. Which BTW was how I wrote up and sent in my resume to my current job that hired me. Employers know this which is why they delete the flyers on glance: they're most always all flash and no bang from people who try and be 'different' and 'think outside the box' and think they're a genius because they bypassed HR.

What gets you hired these days is [1]if you know someone who works there or [2]work experience and finally [3]how well you interview. Mostly [1] and [2] really. Employers and HR know good and well there are a lot of people who are able to fake things very well during an interview but fall apart in a actual work place.

44054   evilmonkeyboy   2014 Mar 14, 11:14am  

Strategist says

Call it Crazy says

Strategist says

Call it Crazy says

Strategist says

Move down to beautiful Orange County. Lower prices, better weather, and lots of jobs.

Move to New Jersey.... We have propane!!!

So can I have the house you regretted buying? I'm willing to rent it back to you.

It's an offer you cannot refuse.

Sure, As long as you come and clean the pool each week....

You have a pool? That will be an extra $100 per month in rent.

Life is good.

Life is good for the renter, since there is no way you can service and maintain a pool for $100/month.

44055   Tenpoundbass   2014 Mar 14, 11:34am  

Those charts have more heads than shoulders!

44056   Bigsby   2014 Mar 14, 12:21pm  

Ah, yes, the comparison of a man aged by the murder of his child (plus the actual years between that picture and his death and a less than flattering photo) with a more than likely touched up family portrait. Congratulations on desperately grasping straws.

44057   Bigsby   2014 Mar 14, 3:43pm  

bgamall4 says

bgamall4 says

Ah, yes, the comparison of a man aged by the murder of his child

I am not convinced by that argument at all. These are clearly photos of a man at very different age points. I think it is obvious.

So I take it you've never heard of people having their portrait taken and the photographer digitally removing blemishes/smoothing out wrinkles/etc... to improve the appearance of the person. You've just picked one picture. What about these?

Do you understand now how your picture is not evidence at all? It is just a classic example of what you do all the time - deliberately mislead.

So come on Gary, please explain how he looks around about the same age in all three of those photos (I could post up many more), and most certainly not the 15 year age difference you like to claim.

44058   FortWayne   2014 Mar 15, 1:38am  

Bigsby says

Ah, yes, the comparison of a man aged by the murder of his child (plus the actual years between that picture and his death and a less than flattering photo) with a more than likely touched up family portrait. Congratulations on desperately grasping straws.

If someone wanted to convince millions of people of something, they would go above and beyond to hide their crime. That's our government.

Bgamall4 is just one of those people who questions government and occasionally catches them when something doesn't make sense in the story they've conjured up for the public consumption.

44059   tatupu70   2014 Mar 15, 8:43am  

You seriously need help. If the sun is overhead, it would give a shadow like in the picture. Find a new hobby. Take up volunteering. Something to occupy your mind beyond this nonsense.

44060   tatupu70   2014 Mar 15, 8:49am  

bgamall4 says

tatupu70 says

If the sun is overhead, it would give a shadow like in the picture.

Wrong.

No, it's correct.

44061   mmmarvel   2014 Mar 15, 8:54am  

David9 says

To make a long story short, I wanted to pay cash for a property. Hmm, bubble, bubble, bubble everywhere,

except Texas..

At the time, I did not see how I could fail. Even if I did not like it there, I can work, save money, and move on.

All I needed was a job.

Again, cutting short, a six month contract here, a two month contract there, contracts in other states, this is not what I planned for or expected.

I could FIND you a job in Texas. Hell, I can find almost anyone a job in Texas. You (generic you) might complain, well it doesn't pay enough - it does for Texas. Well, I don't like/don't want to live in (name of city in Texas) - it's not that there isn't employment, it's that you don't want it. You might complain about the weather - well how's the drought in CA treating you? No, Texas has LOTS of jobs.

44062   mmmarvel   2014 Mar 15, 9:00am  

tts says

No even in Texas there aren't a lot of jobs. What jobs there are usually have crap pay, just like everywhere else.

Despite all the propaganda about Texas as some sort of economic miracle the reality is quite different.

Again, as I said in the posting above. I can find you a job in Texas and for more than minimum wage (hopefully you have a real good skill set and I would have an easier time finding you a job). Is Texas different? Texas is Texas and proud of it. I can still find a house for under $100K, can you? If you want to go between $100K - $200K, it will be a really, really nice house and not some crackerbox 1200 square footer either. Finding a job down here is pretty easy, assuming your not an ex-con, drug addict or sex offender and even a few of them are finding work. But when people start with the 'but I don't want to live there', then it's not the work that's lacking, it's your will to go where the work is.

44063   Strategist   2014 Mar 15, 9:05am  

Call it Crazy says

evilmonkeyboy says

Life is good for the renter, since there is no way you can service and maintain a pool for $100/month.

True, because I was spending $80/month for my dad's pool...

He wants to rip me off for $20 bucks....

Yeah, you're right, it's pathetic.
Let's make it $200.

44064   New Renter   2014 Mar 15, 9:09am  

The problem isn't a lack of jobs, anyone can find a job...as an unpaid intern or a volunteer. Oh, you want to be compensated for your labor? Think outside the box and sell oranges on the streetcorner. Need more? OK you greedy fuck try sending flyers to the C level execs of your favorite companies with a picture of yourself in a wedding dress and a very explicit offer. 9999 out of 10,000 will take out a restraining order on you but you only need one "interview" right?

44065   mmmarvel   2014 Mar 15, 9:12am  

tts says

Despite all the propaganda about Texas as some sort of economic miracle the reality is quite different.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/march_april_may_2014/features/oops_the_texas_miracle_that_is049289.php?page=all

My goodness, from the article you linked to -

"Texas’s comparatively rapid rate of job creation. Over the last twenty-three years, the number of jobs has increased twice as fast in Texas as it has in the rest of the country. Many people might imagine that most of those new jobs pay low wages, but that turns out not to be true. To be sure, Texas has more minimum-wage jobs than any other state, and only Mississippi exceeds it with the most minimum-wage workers per capita.

But Fisher is talking here about new jobs, and according to the Dallas Fed, only 28 percent of the jobs created in or relocated to Texas since 2001 pay in the lowest quarter of the nation’s wage distribution. By comparison, jobs paying in the top half account for about 45 percent of the new jobs in Texas.

This means that Texas has been creating or attracting middle- and high-wage jobs at a far faster pace than the rest of the country taken as whole. For example, between 2001 and 2012, the number of Texas jobs in the upper-middle quarter of the nation’s wage distribution increased by 25.6 percent. This compares with a 4.1 percent decline in the number of such jobs outside of Texas. Though coming off a comparatively small base, Texas has also outperformed the rest of the country in its growth of high-paying jobs."

The rest of the article tries (and in my opinion fails) to smear Texas, but for the most part they spin things to achieve a negative effect. It's a poor article written with the object of tearing down Texas, but they don't do a very good job of it. Come to Texas, tell government where to stuff it.

44066   Strategist   2014 Mar 15, 9:17am  

New Renter says

The problem isn't a lack of jobs, anyone can find a job...as an unpaid intern or a volunteer. Oh, you want to be compensated for your labor? Think outside the box and sell oranges on the streetcorner. Need more? OK you greedy fuck try sending flyers to the C level execs of your favorite companies with a picture of yourself in a wedding dress and a very explicit offer. 9999 out of 10,000 will take out a restraining order on you but you only need one "interview" right?

That is right you only need one.
They say....fortune favors the brave.
Get positive, and get your job. There is a job for everyone, you only have to find it.

44067   New Renter   2014 Mar 15, 9:50am  

Strategist says

New Renter says

The problem isn't a lack of jobs, anyone can find a job...as an unpaid intern or a volunteer. Oh, you want to be compensated for your labor? Think outside the box and sell oranges on the streetcorner. Need more? OK you greedy fuck try sending flyers to the C level execs of your favorite companies with a picture of yourself in a wedding dress and a very explicit offer. 9999 out of 10,000 will take out a restraining order on you but you only need one "interview" right?

That is right you only need one.

They say....fortune favors the brave.

Get positive, and get your job. There is a job for everyone, you only have to find it.

This kind of vauge motivational speak bring to mind a drunken fan at a ball game screaming JUST HIT THE BALL!!! at the batter:

I mean come on! The ball is right there, just hit it out of the park already!

44068   HydroCabron   2014 Mar 15, 10:05am  

tts says

as various costs of living continue to rise as wages stagnate or fall

The one bright spot here is that stagnating/falling wages will soon put a stop to most cost-of-living related increases. If the demand isn't there, the costs will drop. It may not apply to food or fuel, but housing costs can only rise so far.

44069   carrieon   2014 Mar 15, 10:10am  

The NAAWP can protect Paula Deen from racial injustice. lol

44070   New Renter   2014 Mar 15, 1:22pm  

Call it Crazy says

New Renter says

OK you greedy fuck try sending flyers to the C level execs of your favorite companies with a picture of yourself in a wedding dress and a very explicit offer. 9999 out of 10,000 will take out a restraining order on you but you only need one "interview" right?

Gee, I wonder why you can't find the job you want with such a pleasant attitude......

Instead of complaining about a system that absolutely works, why don't you try it.... Oh, it's easier to bad mouth it then put in the effort....

Got it!!!

The lottery absolutely works too - look at all the millionaires it's created!

The problem with the lottery is the return on the investment is negative over the long term. If your system worked for everyone then there would be no need for companies to advertise positions or even for that matter do market research, just open the inbox and let the candidates with a million dollar ideas come to you.

Most managers I've known are too busy to perform any search themselves and farm the work off to HR - after all that is what they are there for. If an interesting candidate were to suddenly appear in their mailbox sure, it might pique the manager's interest. At that point the manager *might* go through he effort to look up the candidates linked in page, and look for common connections, contact those connections evaluate the feedback and contact the candidate with a request for proposal.

The problem with that scenario is it puts a significant demand on the managers limited time. Unless you have one hell of an idea (that you hope the company won't just steal from you) its just not going to happen unless you are VERY lucky.

(If you ARE that lucky you should just load up on lotto tickets.)

More likely though the manager would just forward the email to HR who would in turn either add the candidate to the large pile of unsolicited resumes or worse blacklist you because you tried to bypass them.

If you can demonstrate your system works better than trying to fill a known need of the company I'm all ears.

44071   Bigsby   2014 Mar 15, 1:33pm  

bgamall4 says

Bigsby, if you want your comment to stick you will have to present some facts rebutting the obvious photoshop. Bring an expert who isn't sold out to the NWO.

Oh right, so asking where the sun is in the photo, whether you know the location of trees around them, and what the back of your hand looks like warrants a deletion. Is that right? And 'frenzied' response? What part of that was frenzied? Others might think you are trying to hide the obvious and mislead casual readers. And are you an expert on photoshopping? You are the one making the outlandish claims. You are the one who needs actual evidence. Try and produce some rather than simply spouting your baseless assertions.

And you still haven't commented on the other photos.

44072   Bigsby   2014 Mar 15, 1:37pm  

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

And you still haven't commented on the other photos.

The other photos show a guy older than the photo where he is holding his picture with the child. The guy in that picture is younger. And sure enough if one photo was photoshopped and he didn't even try to explain it, makes the whole thing fake.

The photo you like to peddle was clearly done professionally and very likely touched up. And yes, the guy in the picture is younger than the ones I posted up. That might have something to do with it being taken when the child was a baby. And what do you mean 'he didn't try to explain it?' It's only you conspiracy nuts who think it was photoshopped.

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