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But its not different. Or thinking outside the box.

Lots of people do that and have for years. There is even a small cottage industry of people who will even make your 'flyer' for you for starting around $50-75.

The comparison to penis enlargement ads is apt since those sort of emails are treated exactly the same: they aren't even looked at, just sent to the trash folder. To the best of my knowledge that has been true since at least 2002 when I first of heard of this sort of thing.

But the idea of bypassing HR and sending your resume or a letter to an exec is nothing new at all and has been around for decades at a minimum. Generally those execs don't like it either.

The most you can expect is a terse, 'contact HR and stop bugging me' response. Usually they won't even send you that but they will remember to not hire you if your resume gets forwarded from HR. Why? They want people, even the creative idea people, who follow the rules and established social structures.

You can think outside the box all you want, you just better not try and actually go outside the box.

tts says

But its not different. Or thinking outside the box.

Lots of people do that and have for years. There is even a small cottage industry of people who will even make your 'flyer' for you for starting around $50-75.

The comparison to penis enlargement ads is apt since those sort of emails are treated exactly the same: they aren't even looked at, just sent to the trash folder. To the best of my knowledge that has been true since at least 2002 when I first of heard of this sort of thing.

But the idea of bypassing HR and sending your resume or a letter to an exec is nothing new at all and has been around for decades at a minimum.

You seem very discouraged and appear to have quit even before you began.
It's not gonna help you. You are setting yourself up to fail.
I'm not trying to be mean, just giving some constructive criticism.
Try motivational audios. Lots on Youtube.

See if someone gives you reasons why there is a problem with a given idea or situation then you can't claim they're setting themselves up to fail or have self motivational issues.

Because, you know, there is a problem there.

Also even if you say you're not trying to be mean you're still going to come across as at least mildly insulting since you're, you know, ignoring the problem brought up and instead saying, "no the problem is you" which is actually pretty difficult to do without knowing someone extensively IRL.

Call it Crazy says

Yep, they both have poor attitudes and they wonder why they can't FIND a job

I have a job. I have also been out of work in the last 2 years and also have empathy for my fellow man in what is, well known to be too, a pretty bad economy for the non rich.

Interesting how you know all the sudden how the people disagreeing with you, who you don't actually know at all, don't have jobs. That is some pretty amazing intuition you've got.

Call it Crazy says

I've used it in the past, all my kids used it, and other people I've told all used it to get the jobs they wanted....

Of the several different employers I've worked for over the years, big and small, all claimed to have gotten numerous of such emails. None of them, not even the small guys I worked for, cared or were impressed with them. All of them deleted them with hardly a glance.

tts says

See if someone gives you reasons why there is a problem with a given idea or situation then you can't claim they're setting themselves up to fail or have self motivational issues.

Because, you know, there is a problem there.

Also even if you say you're not trying to be mean you're still going to come across as at least mildly insulting since you're, you know, ignoring the problem brought up and instead saying, "no the problem is you" which is actually pretty difficult to do without knowing someone extensively IRL.

I apologize. That was not my intent.

I will add that if you cannot see that what you are talking about (MEWs) was not caused by what I'm talking about then you have a perfunctory understanding of the subject.

Call it Crazy says

An employer wants to know what you'll do for THEM and how you'll benefit the company.

A flashy flyer doesn't convey that sort of information any better than a resume typed up in notepad. Which BTW was how I wrote up and sent in my resume to my current job that hired me. Employers know this which is why they delete the flyers on glance: they're most always all flash and no bang from people who try and be 'different' and 'think outside the box' and think they're a genius because they bypassed HR.

What gets you hired these days is [1]if you know someone who works there or [2]work experience and finally [3]how well you interview. Mostly [1] and [2] really. Employers and HR know good and well there are a lot of people who are able to fake things very well during an interview but fall apart in a actual work place.

Strategist says

Call it Crazy says

Strategist says

Call it Crazy says

Strategist says

Move down to beautiful Orange County. Lower prices, better weather, and lots of jobs.

Move to New Jersey.... We have propane!!!

So can I have the house you regretted buying? I'm willing to rent it back to you.

It's an offer you cannot refuse.

Sure, As long as you come and clean the pool each week....

You have a pool? That will be an extra $100 per month in rent.

Life is good.

Life is good for the renter, since there is no way you can service and maintain a pool for $100/month.

Those charts have more heads than shoulders!

Ah, yes, the comparison of a man aged by the murder of his child (plus the actual years between that picture and his death and a less than flattering photo) with a more than likely touched up family portrait. Congratulations on desperately grasping straws.

bgamall4 says

bgamall4 says

Ah, yes, the comparison of a man aged by the murder of his child

I am not convinced by that argument at all. These are clearly photos of a man at very different age points. I think it is obvious.

So I take it you've never heard of people having their portrait taken and the photographer digitally removing blemishes/smoothing out wrinkles/etc... to improve the appearance of the person. You've just picked one picture. What about these?

Do you understand now how your picture is not evidence at all? It is just a classic example of what you do all the time - deliberately mislead.

So come on Gary, please explain how he looks around about the same age in all three of those photos (I could post up many more), and most certainly not the 15 year age difference you like to claim.

Bigsby says

Ah, yes, the comparison of a man aged by the murder of his child (plus the actual years between that picture and his death and a less than flattering photo) with a more than likely touched up family portrait. Congratulations on desperately grasping straws.

If someone wanted to convince millions of people of something, they would go above and beyond to hide their crime. That's our government.

Bgamall4 is just one of those people who questions government and occasionally catches them when something doesn't make sense in the story they've conjured up for the public consumption.

You seriously need help. If the sun is overhead, it would give a shadow like in the picture. Find a new hobby. Take up volunteering. Something to occupy your mind beyond this nonsense.

bgamall4 says

tatupu70 says

If the sun is overhead, it would give a shadow like in the picture.

Wrong.

No, it's correct.

David9 says

To make a long story short, I wanted to pay cash for a property. Hmm, bubble, bubble, bubble everywhere,

except Texas..

At the time, I did not see how I could fail. Even if I did not like it there, I can work, save money, and move on.

All I needed was a job.

Again, cutting short, a six month contract here, a two month contract there, contracts in other states, this is not what I planned for or expected.

I could FIND you a job in Texas. Hell, I can find almost anyone a job in Texas. You (generic you) might complain, well it doesn't pay enough - it does for Texas. Well, I don't like/don't want to live in (name of city in Texas) - it's not that there isn't employment, it's that you don't want it. You might complain about the weather - well how's the drought in CA treating you? No, Texas has LOTS of jobs.

tts says

No even in Texas there aren't a lot of jobs. What jobs there are usually have crap pay, just like everywhere else.

Despite all the propaganda about Texas as some sort of economic miracle the reality is quite different.

Again, as I said in the posting above. I can find you a job in Texas and for more than minimum wage (hopefully you have a real good skill set and I would have an easier time finding you a job). Is Texas different? Texas is Texas and proud of it. I can still find a house for under $100K, can you? If you want to go between $100K - $200K, it will be a really, really nice house and not some crackerbox 1200 square footer either. Finding a job down here is pretty easy, assuming your not an ex-con, drug addict or sex offender and even a few of them are finding work. But when people start with the 'but I don't want to live there', then it's not the work that's lacking, it's your will to go where the work is.

Call it Crazy says

evilmonkeyboy says

Life is good for the renter, since there is no way you can service and maintain a pool for $100/month.

True, because I was spending $80/month for my dad's pool...

He wants to rip me off for $20 bucks....

Yeah, you're right, it's pathetic.
Let's make it $200.

The problem isn't a lack of jobs, anyone can find a job...as an unpaid intern or a volunteer. Oh, you want to be compensated for your labor? Think outside the box and sell oranges on the streetcorner. Need more? OK you greedy fuck try sending flyers to the C level execs of your favorite companies with a picture of yourself in a wedding dress and a very explicit offer. 9999 out of 10,000 will take out a restraining order on you but you only need one "interview" right?

tts says

Despite all the propaganda about Texas as some sort of economic miracle the reality is quite different.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/march_april_may_2014/features/oops_the_texas_miracle_that_is049289.php?page=all

My goodness, from the article you linked to -

"Texas’s comparatively rapid rate of job creation. Over the last twenty-three years, the number of jobs has increased twice as fast in Texas as it has in the rest of the country. Many people might imagine that most of those new jobs pay low wages, but that turns out not to be true. To be sure, Texas has more minimum-wage jobs than any other state, and only Mississippi exceeds it with the most minimum-wage workers per capita.

But Fisher is talking here about new jobs, and according to the Dallas Fed, only 28 percent of the jobs created in or relocated to Texas since 2001 pay in the lowest quarter of the nation’s wage distribution. By comparison, jobs paying in the top half account for about 45 percent of the new jobs in Texas.

This means that Texas has been creating or attracting middle- and high-wage jobs at a far faster pace than the rest of the country taken as whole. For example, between 2001 and 2012, the number of Texas jobs in the upper-middle quarter of the nation’s wage distribution increased by 25.6 percent. This compares with a 4.1 percent decline in the number of such jobs outside of Texas. Though coming off a comparatively small base, Texas has also outperformed the rest of the country in its growth of high-paying jobs."

The rest of the article tries (and in my opinion fails) to smear Texas, but for the most part they spin things to achieve a negative effect. It's a poor article written with the object of tearing down Texas, but they don't do a very good job of it. Come to Texas, tell government where to stuff it.

New Renter says

The problem isn't a lack of jobs, anyone can find a job...as an unpaid intern or a volunteer. Oh, you want to be compensated for your labor? Think outside the box and sell oranges on the streetcorner. Need more? OK you greedy fuck try sending flyers to the C level execs of your favorite companies with a picture of yourself in a wedding dress and a very explicit offer. 9999 out of 10,000 will take out a restraining order on you but you only need one "interview" right?

That is right you only need one.
They say....fortune favors the brave.
Get positive, and get your job. There is a job for everyone, you only have to find it.

Strategist says

New Renter says

The problem isn't a lack of jobs, anyone can find a job...as an unpaid intern or a volunteer. Oh, you want to be compensated for your labor? Think outside the box and sell oranges on the streetcorner. Need more? OK you greedy fuck try sending flyers to the C level execs of your favorite companies with a picture of yourself in a wedding dress and a very explicit offer. 9999 out of 10,000 will take out a restraining order on you but you only need one "interview" right?

That is right you only need one.

They say....fortune favors the brave.

Get positive, and get your job. There is a job for everyone, you only have to find it.

This kind of vauge motivational speak bring to mind a drunken fan at a ball game screaming JUST HIT THE BALL!!! at the batter:

I mean come on! The ball is right there, just hit it out of the park already!

tts says

as various costs of living continue to rise as wages stagnate or fall

The one bright spot here is that stagnating/falling wages will soon put a stop to most cost-of-living related increases. If the demand isn't there, the costs will drop. It may not apply to food or fuel, but housing costs can only rise so far.

The NAAWP can protect Paula Deen from racial injustice. lol

Call it Crazy says

New Renter says

OK you greedy fuck try sending flyers to the C level execs of your favorite companies with a picture of yourself in a wedding dress and a very explicit offer. 9999 out of 10,000 will take out a restraining order on you but you only need one "interview" right?

Gee, I wonder why you can't find the job you want with such a pleasant attitude......

Instead of complaining about a system that absolutely works, why don't you try it.... Oh, it's easier to bad mouth it then put in the effort....

Got it!!!

The lottery absolutely works too - look at all the millionaires it's created!

The problem with the lottery is the return on the investment is negative over the long term. If your system worked for everyone then there would be no need for companies to advertise positions or even for that matter do market research, just open the inbox and let the candidates with a million dollar ideas come to you.

Most managers I've known are too busy to perform any search themselves and farm the work off to HR - after all that is what they are there for. If an interesting candidate were to suddenly appear in their mailbox sure, it might pique the manager's interest. At that point the manager *might* go through he effort to look up the candidates linked in page, and look for common connections, contact those connections evaluate the feedback and contact the candidate with a request for proposal.

The problem with that scenario is it puts a significant demand on the managers limited time. Unless you have one hell of an idea (that you hope the company won't just steal from you) its just not going to happen unless you are VERY lucky.

(If you ARE that lucky you should just load up on lotto tickets.)

More likely though the manager would just forward the email to HR who would in turn either add the candidate to the large pile of unsolicited resumes or worse blacklist you because you tried to bypass them.

If you can demonstrate your system works better than trying to fill a known need of the company I'm all ears.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby, if you want your comment to stick you will have to present some facts rebutting the obvious photoshop. Bring an expert who isn't sold out to the NWO.

Oh right, so asking where the sun is in the photo, whether you know the location of trees around them, and what the back of your hand looks like warrants a deletion. Is that right? And 'frenzied' response? What part of that was frenzied? Others might think you are trying to hide the obvious and mislead casual readers. And are you an expert on photoshopping? You are the one making the outlandish claims. You are the one who needs actual evidence. Try and produce some rather than simply spouting your baseless assertions.

And you still haven't commented on the other photos.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

And you still haven't commented on the other photos.

The other photos show a guy older than the photo where he is holding his picture with the child. The guy in that picture is younger. And sure enough if one photo was photoshopped and he didn't even try to explain it, makes the whole thing fake.

The photo you like to peddle was clearly done professionally and very likely touched up. And yes, the guy in the picture is younger than the ones I posted up. That might have something to do with it being taken when the child was a baby. And what do you mean 'he didn't try to explain it?' It's only you conspiracy nuts who think it was photoshopped.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

That might have something to do with it being taken when the child was a baby.

He wasn't a baby. We already have his name in a yearbook and he is years older. And even if he was a baby, as you say, the guy could not age that much in 3-4 years. It is too much.

Ever had a bad photo taken? How old do you think he looks in the photos I posted up? And why on earth are you comparing a touched up studio photo to what he actually looks like? You really are desperate.

Call it Crazy says

Maybe you can speculate where the Malaysia airliner is too....

Sure thing.

Its:

bgamall4 says

Notice in the part of the picture you didn't bother with, idiot Bigsby. Here you can see that the hand of the child is unnatural, level at the top. See it moron:

http://mediahoaxes.tumblr.com/post/60101563165/sandy-hook-fake-victim-jesse-lewis-this-is-a

In other words, it has been cut into the picture, in a sloppy way. No one has a hand with a ruler straight top to it.

http://www.msnbc.com/martin-bashir/neil-heslin-father-slain-6-year-old-test

Complete nonsense. Just look at the back of your hand. That part of it is very straight relatively speaking. And no, the hand isn't ruler straight in the picture, so what exactly is your point? It simply shows the sort of poor image quality that is all too common with many digital photos - this one looks like a selfie, so was no doubt shot with a cameraphone. Not exactly a Nikon D800.

Call it Crazy says

It's worked for 6 different people I know.... Unfortunately, with your negative and defeatist attitude, it won't be you benefiting from it....

And how many people have blown countless hours trying the method and gotten nowhere? Do you keep track of them too? Or just the success stories?

Faith healing works wonders. Just ask Jesus and he will cure your cancer.

Oh, you still have cancer? Well its your own damn fault, you didn't pray hard enough.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

Complete nonsense. Just look at the back of your hand. That part of it is very straight relatively speaking.

Not from that angle, dopy.

Don't be daft. Put your hand in the position of the photo and look at it. It looks straight. Seriously, this is desperate even by your standards.

It's not ruler straight in the photo. That's YOUR claim. And I'm looking at my middle aged hand, and it's extremely straight. Do you have a banana for a hand or are you simply lying about what you are seeing?

This is one of those threads that wandered off into the woods, never to return to topic raised by the OP.

bgamall4 says

And the above is an ELA: http://fotoforensics.com/tutorial-ela.php

The kid's hand is photoshopped.

The pixelation of edges (such as the hand) is very common in photos from relatively low quality cameras, such as camera phones (even plenty of good cameras). That has nothing to do with what you just linked to - what you actually link to shows there is nothing wrong with the hand.

And what exactly is your point? You could have a completely photoshopped background and that wouldn't prove your point. Your argument is that the boy and father have been photoshopped together from separate images. What about the rest of the photo - the large section where their faces touch, etc. etc.?

What a silly survey! They want to buy homes!

300 million people in the US want to be millionaires.

Call it Crazy says

Seems to be a trend by lazy people who won't start a new thread, they just hyjack an existing thread....

What the heck was the question again?

FortWayne says

Especially if airlines are not regulated and monitored. Anyone thinks Malaysian airlines maintain their planes? I doubt they do much.

Of course they don't, only Americans are smart enough to actually maintain a 500 million dollar aircraft. The rest of the world, which is illiterate and lives in mud shacks, just crashes theirs and buys new ones.

I think CiC has the right idea, in general, but the email thing wouldn't work. Instead, find out where a manager/exec spends his time out of work and try to make an acquaintance. After all, when it comes to getting a job, it's usually more about who you know than what you know.
If you meet Mr. Exec on the golf range, in the bar, at a specialty group, or best of all: at church, you'll instantly bypass all the spam filters, and raise your chances of being hired.
With my current job, I didn't know anyone in the LA area when I moved here, and had only three years experience doing my job, but I did make one connection. My union BA was friendly and helpful, and agreed to introduce me around to some managers and foremen so I could make connections. That was all it took, and the next job that opened up was mine.
It's really all about who you know.
Gotta break out of that box and get social.

bgamall4 says

Hey, it is for the experts to prove. Clearly the child's hand is photoshopped. If you hold your fingers in the same position as Jesse Lewis you will have a rounded hand, not a straight line.

You say that and then follow it immediately with an assertion that it is fake. Go figure. And no, if you hold your hand up, that part of the hand clearly doesn't look rounded. Clench your fist and tell me what that part looks like. Bend your fingers. Pose it as best you can like the 5/6 year-old (because of course their hands are exactly like those of an adult....). You do all that and what does that part of the hand look like? And don't lie. Mine looks very straight, most especially at certain angles.

bgamall4 says

As far as the other contention you make, the experts would have to take the original picture and test it.

And yet what do you do? Oh yes, you state as fact that it is a fake. Just the hand mind, despite the fact that the whole thing needs to have been photoshopped for your argument to make any sense.

bob2356 says

Of course they don't, only Americans are smart enough to actually maintain a 500 million dollar aircraft. The rest of the world, which is illiterate and lives in mud shacks, just crashes theirs and buys new ones.

They are not stupid. They buy old planes and insure them. Plane falls, people die, they don't care... they collect insurance.

That kind of practice is illegal in US, but the rest of the world... "free market".