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46245   AverageBear   2014 May 13, 11:30am  

Iosef V HydroCabron says

When does embarrassment kick in?

I dunno, but you may find the feeling of embarrrassment more familiar, by backing Obama and his failed Obamacare promises. You know, the known lies he made. The lies Obama made, while Obama himself knew they were lies when they came out of his mouth?

Yes, please have another helping of Kool-Aid while Obama tells you that you will keep your doctor, your health care costs will go down, at the same time we sign up 30 million dead-beats who can't pay into the system... PFFFFT. Don't call me out, trying to act credible. It's a bad look. Trust me.

46246   cloud15   2014 May 13, 12:22pm  

E-MAN I'm pretty sure you are talking about the condos on samaritian dr as your holdings. Boy those thing were cheap and I just missed on then at 238K. There was one 2300 samaritian place, 2 and that was getting auctioned on 4/28.

46247   monkframe   2014 May 13, 2:14pm  

E-man says

monkframe says

Jeez, I'm sure glad the upper classes have so many arguments.

Not sure how you classify the upper classes. Is it the top 1%, 5%, 10% or 20%? A lot of Bay Area families fit the top 10% and easily fit the top 20%, but that doesn't mean a whole lot around here with those 6-figure household income.

You know what I mean.

46248   bob2356   2014 May 13, 2:17pm  

AverageBear says

My point is that Harry Reid is kicking ranchers off of Federal land, and trying to sell it to the Chinese. This is fact. It's happening all over the West, including Texas.

So, when the federal gov't (ie Harry Reid in NV) tells ranchers like Bundy that they can no longer use federal land for the protection of a tortoise, and then turn around and try to sell that land to the Chinese, doesn't that strike you as odd, or hypocritical? Were they lying to the ranchers so they could get the sweetheart deal to sell the land to the Chinese? What makes you think the Chinese will use the land while protecting the tortoise?

Why did the gov't shift its argument from "we must protect the tortoise", to "Bundy hasn't paid his grazing fees"? Maybe the gov't lied about the protection of the tortoise? Hmm?

I really hate to screw up a good ideological rant with facts. Actually going and looking things up is so much work. It's easier to just regurgitate fox news.

No ranchers are being kicked off federal lands for solar projects. Most of the solar designated area's are dry lake, not grazing lands. Like Dry lake solar zone outside vegas. You can google it. Even better here is the BLM website for dry lake solar zone. http://www.blm.gov/nv/st/en/fo/lvfo/blm_programs/energy/dry_lake_solar_energy.html . there is an 86 page document that details the area if you want to read it.. Since there is now way you are actually reading something when you can listen to rush I'll even paraphrase it for you.. The area is arid dry lakebed with sparse creosote vegetation. The area is to the west of the tortoise protection area. So there are no tortoise and no ranchers (cows don't eat creosote).

So when does your personal embarrassment kick in for being a willing dupe to more Koch Bro's propaganda? It's just brillent that the .1% has all the bad teeth redneck trailer trash as an eager volunteer army to push the agenda of making the .1% even richer by simply repeating the words big government, god, and guns endlessly. You really can't make this stuff up.

BTW I am not at all embarrassed about Obama. I didn't vote for him (or the republican idiot) and always said he would be a terrible president.

46249   Bellingham Bill   2014 May 13, 2:22pm  

E-man says

Not sure how you classify the upper classes

the upper class are people we could throw into woodchippers and not lose any actual wealth production in our economy.

46250   ttsmyf   2014 May 14, 12:57pm  

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Wednesday, May 14, 2014 __ Level is 105.0

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And "ThePublic Be Suckered"
http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

46251   zzyzzx   2014 May 15, 1:01am  

Bigsby says

Perhaps you shouldn't be so averse to those who can afford it (including corporations) paying a bit more. Would it be so bad if that then resulted in better roads, schools, healthcare...?

Perhaps they should spend what they have more prudently, you know like paying market wages instead of bloated union wages.

46252   FortWayne   2014 May 15, 3:07am  

All those government buddy system contracts that are completely fraudulent, union pension spiking to a point that no amount of taxes will ever be enough. And now they want to add another tax for it.

Enough is enough we are all already overburdened with taxes!

46253   FortWayne   2014 May 15, 7:34am  

Sure puts Ukraine situation into a different perspective.

46254   ttsmyf   2014 May 15, 9:46am  

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Thursday, May 15, 2014 __ Level is 103.6

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And "ThePublic Be Suckered"
http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

46255   IonNemerenco   2014 May 15, 10:43pm  

[b]Ion Nemerenco[/b]
Unless you're a freegan and have found a way to live entirely off the grid, you probably need some sort of steady income in order to survive. The traditional way to earn money, of course, is by having a job. You work for a company or start your own, and the work you do earns you money, which you spend on things like a mortgage, rent, food, clothing, utilities and entertainment.
Most people typically work from their company's central location, a physical space where everyone from that organization gathers to exchange ideas and organize their efforts.
But a few lucky souls have found ways to make money within the comfort of their own home. With the Internet, an ever-changing arena for businesses, some people looking to earn money are finding ways to do so. Some forms are best for part-time endeavors for those looking to make a little extra money on the side, while others can lead to full-time jobs and Internet success stories.
Ion Nemerenco put together a list of our top 10 ways to make money on the Internet, in no particular order. On the next page, we'll start with an old favorite.

46256   Facebooksux   2014 May 15, 11:09pm  

GREAT!

WHERE DO I MAIL MY MONEY TO??

46257   Y   2014 May 15, 11:40pm  

Everything you say sounds great!
Unfortunately, however, your HTML skills reveal your incompetence.
How can I trust what you or your company say, if you cannot even get a simple 'bold' command straight?
This indicates you either:
a- have not proofread your post, in which case I must assume you are lazy and have not really researched the positions you put forth, or
b- you have proofread your post, in which case I must assume you are lazy, since you failed to take the time to correct your mistakes. How much of this laziness has poisoned the position you put forth, I don't know. I do know that it's not worth my time or risk to find out.
IonNemerenco says

[b]Ion Nemerenco[/b]

Unless you're a freegan and have found a way to live entirely off the grid, you probably need some sort of steady income in order to survive.

46258   HydroCabron   2014 May 16, 1:56am  

I'm torn: these illegal aliens are clearly liberals, but they will boost house prices. It really comes down to whether gay platinum excreters can have anchor babies.

Are they only coming across the galaxy for free health care and social services?

46259   Dan8267   2014 May 16, 2:36am  

Ah, but will the pope and all Christians accept Plateu, the one true god as evident in the holy book Yertimu? When the aliens come down to the Vatican, their first words will be
Have you been saved? Have you welcomed Plateu into your heart?

The pope is in for a big surprise. The aliens will be missionaries trying to convert humans into the "one true religion" by force if necessary. Better to gouge out a human's eyes and anally probe him then to let his soul fall into the Great Wormpit of Andromeda.

46260   HydroCabron   2014 May 16, 2:37am  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Is a bump up in home prices so vital we'll encourage pederast rape from space aliens in cassocks?

Any reason to believe the human race has yet to care about pederast rape?

We have such a poor track record of preventing it, that I'm not sure we really give a damn, except for scoring political points after the fact.

46261   FortWayne   2014 May 16, 2:50am  

Ever since Vietnam, our government has been committing despicable crimes.

It's a depressing reminder sometimes, because I know in our "Democracy" we don't have any say in this.

46262   Ceffer   2014 May 16, 3:00am  

Is it derogatory to call them "platinum packers"?

46263   Dan8267   2014 May 16, 3:04am  

Ceffer says

Is it derogatory to call them "platinum packers"?

They prefer to be call bi-metals.

46264   Ceffer   2014 May 16, 3:10am  

I got suspicious when the son changed his name to Kim Biden-un.

46265   HEY YOU   2014 May 16, 3:26am  

Why do you hate TBTF? roflmao

To paraphrase the great philosopher,AF. DIE TBTF,DIE!

George Carlin:
"Forget the politicians. They are irrelevant. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice! You have OWNERS! They OWN YOU. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls."

46266   bob2356   2014 May 16, 3:30am  

FortWayne says

Ever since Vietnam, our government has been committing despicable crimes.

Ever since September 17, 1787 our government has been committing despicable crimes. You didn't get the memo?

46267   FortWayne   2014 May 16, 3:41am  

bob2356 says

FortWayne says

Ever since Vietnam, our government has been committing despicable crimes.

Ever since September 17, 1787 our government has been committing despicable crimes. You didn't get the memo?

Attribute that to my public education, those history books white washed everything, and I wasn't around to judge. But Vietnam, I got friends who were in Vietnam and they tell it like it was about free fire zones, etc...

46268   bob2356   2014 May 16, 3:51am  

FortWayne says

Attribute that to my public education, those history books white washed everything, and I wasn't around to judge. But Vietnam, I got friends who were in Vietnam and they tell it like it was about free fire zones, etc...

The entire north american continent was a free fire zone when the indians had it and the colonists wanted it. Nothing changes.

46269   FortWayne   2014 May 16, 3:54am  

Check this little wikileak about Ukraine, we are trying very hard to get there:

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html#efmBTnBfi

Ukraine and Georgia's NATO aspirations not only touch
a raw nerve in Russia, they engender serious concerns about
the consequences for stability in the region. Not only does
Russia perceive encirclement, and efforts to undermine
Russia's influence in the region, but it also fears
unpredictable and uncontrolled consequences which would
seriously affect Russian security interests. Experts tell us
that Russia is particularly worried that the strong divisions
in Ukraine over NATO membership, with much of the
ethnic-Russian community against membership, could lead to a
major split, involving violence or at worst, civil war. In
that eventuality, Russia would have to decide whether to

intervene; a decision Russia does not want to have to face.

46270   FortWayne   2014 May 16, 4:16am  

bgamall4 says

Our crazy neocons in both parties will lead us to WW3 if Russia perceives the encirclement is not manageable.

They'll probably start something in Syria and Iran first. I remember when Obama tried to sell that war to the public, didn't work out too well for him. They'll try again later I'm sure. Working hard to preserve that right wing budget.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL-ugOSbAjg

46271   zzyzzx   2014 May 16, 4:21am  

bgamall4 says

Our crazy neocons in both parties will lead us to WW3 if Russia perceives the encirclement is not manageable.

Not likely. Ukraine is the new Poland and nobody will care.

46274   FortWayne   2014 May 16, 5:07am  

zzyzzx says

bgamall4 says

Our crazy neocons in both parties will lead us to WW3 if Russia perceives the encirclement is not manageable.

Not likely. Ukraine is the new Poland and nobody will care.

I don't think so. There are too many factories in Ukraine that support Russian military. Russia will probably feel too suffocated, and you never know how they'll react, considering our involvement.

46275   ttsmyf   2014 May 16, 7:22am  

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Friday, May 16, 2014 __ Level is 103.9

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And "ThePublic Be Suckered"
http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

46276   clambo   2014 May 16, 10:08am  

So can Hillary, Kerry and the rest since they voted for it.

Since there's no hell I am not concerned about it.

Wait, maybe "hell" will be the beach in Cabo with the bikini clad "personal attendant" serving me an umbrella drink. It's hot in the sun sometimes, almost "hellish".

46277   myob   2014 May 16, 10:26am  

How is this just a Republican problem? The Democrats are subservient to the military industrial complex too.

46278   zzyzzx   2014 May 16, 10:33am  

A LOT more people died in Woodrow Wilson's WW1 and Johnson's Vietnam.

46279   CL   2014 May 16, 10:39am  

myob says

How is this just a Republican problem? The Democrats are subservient to the military industrial complex too.

Really? So why is it that when they negotiate, the GOP insists on cuts to social spending and the Dems insist on cuts to the Pentagon.

Strange way for the Dems to curry favor with a group they're supposedly subservient to.

Next you'll tell me that the GOP is actually unionism's biggest supporter!

46280   JH   2014 May 16, 11:03am  

zzyzzx says

A LOT more people died in Woodrow Wilson's WW1 and Johnson's Vietnam.

A LOT LOT more died in Lincoln v. Grant

46281   HydroCabron   2014 May 16, 3:30pm  

On the plus side, we are getting time off from the saturation anti-Obamacare fusillades.

The troops await fresh marching orders.

For now, it's just the "Obama did what?!?!" horror stories over the usual quiet background of anti-Fed wailing.

46282   thomaswong.1986   2014 May 17, 2:02am  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Oh, yeah?! We need to paint JESUS ON ALL THE BOMBS WE USE TO KILL THE FUCKING RAGHEADS! RAPE IS A FUCKING SACRAMENT! THE 13TH AND 14TH AMENDMENTS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

See? These are mainstream Teabagger positions.

really ? i wasnt aware we were violating OUR constitution when shooting the Germans and Japanese in WW2...

after all, based on Liberal view, even Hitler had the right to " life liberty and pursuit of happiness " regardless which country he invaded.

46283   clambo   2014 May 17, 2:12am  

The point of Benghazi is it was a lie to the public to suit Obama's political needs before an election. Some people take great exception at being lied to.

Susan Rice going onto 5 Sunday TV shows and lying about the cause of the terror attack was wrong.

Others object to the ineptitude of people like Obama and Hillary by ignoring the request from our ambassador for higher security at the place where he was killed.

Others wonder how we can have a GIANT military with a budget so huge it defies belief and they never sent a fucking PLANE to fly over and bomb the scumbags or shoot them up? We had plenty of planes and bombs when the pantywaist Brits and French asked us to bomb Ghadaffi previously.

The objection of reasonable people to Obama/Hillary/Rice concocting a lie about this terrorist attack is that they continue to cover up this entire LIE and evidently if you dislike the govt. lying to you it's your fault?

46284   anotheraccount   2014 May 17, 3:20am  

Benghazi is somewhat of a joke. When driving, for fun I turn on fox news on sirius, and then wait for a number of seconds it takes before I hear "Benghazi" Usually it's within minutes. It's similar to Obamacare opposition; focusing on the wrong poitns. Republicans could focus on so many other substantial foreign policy failures, and instead they choose Benghazi because they think it will hurt Hillary. For example. how about Nuland's "fuck EU" comment, or Kerry's mishandling of Ukraine's crisis, or the fact that we are still in Afghanistan wasting billions every month while not extending long term unemployment insurance here and cutting food stamps?

Clambo, I do agree with you that it was a lie before the election, but it's a small lie in comparison to other issues. Romney also did not have a real chance after the primary, his 47% comment, and not releasing tax returns.

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