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Call it Crazy says

Boy, I hope Obama has a great round on the golf course this weekend and can shoot maybe 6 over par...

You're just upset they let a black man into the country club.

Clearly, you're not upset about the time Obama has spent golfing on vacation.

And it's not the economy either...

Interesting that the thDan8267 says

Well we are just a few short weeks from the 100th anniversary of the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.

That's June 28th, mark your calenders!

100th anniversary of the Fed just last year.

Coincidence? I think not

So I will takes bob's reticence as an admission that he was smoking dope on this subject.

indigenous says

Show where I used that context.

For christ sakes read my post. I'm not talking about what you wrote. Reality wrote it in the original post. It's what I've been talking about the whole time. Catch up.

Too much trouble

bgamall4 says

New Renter says

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

You people are too weird for me.

Sez the alternate dark-passenger personality of turtledove.

He won't answer me because when it comes down to it he is afraid, very afraid. :)

Call it Crazy says

Nice comparison.... Comparing 8 years of Bush vacations against 2 years of Obama...

You're a real rocket scientist!!!

Honey, let me explain how math works.

Bush: 1020 day over 8 years
1020 / 8 = 127.5 days per year

Obama: 78 days in 3 years
78 / 3 = 26 days per year

Given 52 weeks in a year and 5 working days per week, Bush took off 49% of each year in his presidency. Obama, 10%.

Math's a bitch, isn't it.

Call it Crazy says

Also Dan, if you're going to post a graph to prove a point, don't post a graph from the Office of the Democratic Leader.... It kills all of your credibility....

Who creates the graph is irrelevant, unless they pull the tricks that Fox News does with graphs. What matters is the data behind the graph. Guess what, the news agency that reports the number of days Bush and Obama each took off, don't get to make up the numbers. Yes, I know, that's what Fox News does and so you're used to facts varying depending upon who reports them.

But in the real world, the data is a constant. It doesn't matter who reports it, because the facts are always the same facts. That's the way truthful reporting works. Stop watching Fox and conservative radio, and you'll understand this.

Or are you truly stupid enough to be challenging the fact that Bush took off 1020 days during his presidency? Please, go there.

P.S. The graphs come from many different sources, asshole.

Dan8267 says

Honey, let me explain how math works.

Honey???
OK what's going on you too?

this is damning evidence....

Call it Crazy says

There is a BIG difference in Obama being on vacation playing golf in Palm Springs versus Bush being on vacation at his ranch in Crawford... But, why let reality and facts get in the way of your false narrative...

Let's pull some facts about Bush's ranch where he "vacationed":

Dan's having a gay moment....

Strategist says

Dan8267 says

Honey, let me explain how math works.

Honey???

OK what's going on you too?

Dan8267 says

Honey, let me explain how math works.

Bush: 1020 day over 8 years

1020 / 8 = 127.5 days per year

Obama: 78 days in 3 years

78 / 3 = 26 days per year

Given 52 weeks in a year and 5 working days per week, Bush took off 49% of each year in his presidency. Obama, 10%.

Math's a bitch, isn't it.

forget about how much he vacations.. Obama hardly does anything at work.

perhaps you should ask how many times has Obama invited anyone from Congress to come over so discuss issues.. be their Democratic or Republican... HE NEVER talks with anyone from Congress... a far cry from past presidents who reach out and hash out differences... Heck even ubber left Chris Mathews has a bone to pick with Obama lack of a work ethic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB4b11_LREA

Call it Crazy says

here is a BIG difference in Obama being on vacation playing golf in Palm Springs versus Bush being on vacation at his ranch in Crawford

Bullfuckingshit.

Again, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to hate Obama -- the war on drugs, the killing of civilians including young children in drone strikes, domestic spying, torture, imprisonment without trial or charges -- you don't have to make shit up.

Bush as not a hard working cowboy. He wasn't even a cowboy. He was a retard and he didn't like doing any actual work. Those days on his ranch were work days even if he signed a few papers once in a while. Now you're just trying to twist the facts to excuse that he too over a thousand days off.

Obama, in contrast, took only 26 days per year off. That's miniscule compared to Bush. And yes, Obama, like every fucking president, is on call 24-7 in case of emergency.

You're entitled to your own opinions, as racist and ignorant as they are, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

Every time I think about how much I hate Obama, I remind myself that the conservatives on Patrick.net prove that a republican in office would be so much worse.

Dan8267 says

Maybe you can tell us exactly which policy "Stimulus" did Obama enact to stimulate job growth... and why has job growth been sluggish when Obama took office...

The fact is the fix to the economy came from Bush and his administration. There is no Obama polity to stimulate job growth.. perhaps you like to point to one ? Fat chance you will find one... all obama has created is discord in the country. Some change ....

Dan8267 says

Every time I think about how much I hate Obama, I remind myself that the conservatives on Patrick.net prove that a republican in office would be so much worse.

you draw that conclusion form what 8 years of Clinton and Obama...

what great Economic policies did either one enact which made them better over Republican presidents ?

Dan8267 says

the war on drugs, the killing of civilians including young children in drone strikes, domestic spying, torture, imprisonment without trial or charges -- you don't have to make shit up.

the same war on narco growers and trafficers and local gangs waged by all nations... Drones killing terrorist... no one is complaining... they are terrorists..

spying on foreigners is legal and has been common regardless of methods used...

our constitution does not grant terrorist any rights... might as well just shoot them anyway...

but you always make up shit...

Facts trump your math each and every time.

Bush signs Patriot Act extension at ranch
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-12-30-bush-patriot-act_x.htm?csp=34

Bush's long vacations are more than a curiosity: They play into diametrically opposite arguments about this leadership style. To critics and late-night comics, they symbolize a lackadaisical approach to the world's most important day job, an impression bolstered by Bush's periodic two-hour midday exercise sessions and his disinclination to work nights or weekends. The more vociferous among Bush's foes have noted that he spent a month at the ranch shortly before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, when critics assert he should have been more attentive to warning signs.

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To Bush and his advisers, that criticism fundamentally misunderstands his Texas sojourns. Those who think he does not remain in command, aides say, do not understand the modern presidency or Bush's own work habits. At the ranch, White House officials say, Bush continues to receive daily national security briefings, sign documents, hold teleconferences with aides and military commanders, and even meet with foreign leaders. And from the president's point of view, the long Texas stints are the best way to clear his mind and reconnect with everyday America.

"I'm looking forward to getting down there and just kind of settling in," Bush told reporters from Texas newspapers during a roundtable interview at the White House on Monday. "I'll be doing a lot of work. On the other hand, I'll also be kind of making sure my Texas roots run deep."

"Spending time outside of Washington always gives the president a fresh perspective of what's on the minds of the American people," White House press secretary Scott McClellan told reporters Friday. "It's a time, really, for him to shed the coat and tie and meet with folks out in the heartland and hear what's on their minds."

Dan8267 says

Bush: 1020 day over 8 years

1020 / 8 = 127.5 days per year

Obama: 78 days in 3 years

78 / 3 = 26 days per year

Given 52 weeks in a year and 5 working days per week, Bush took off 49% of each year in his presidency. Obama, 10%.

Math's a bitch, isn't it.

bgamall4 says

New Renter says

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

You people are too weird for me.

Sez the alternate dark-passenger personality of turtledove.

He won't answer me because when it comes down to it he is afraid, very afraid. :)

Why, are you a cat person?

More like:

OMG the DEADLIST predator of half a billion years ago has been brought back to life!

Then you find out it's a flatworm.

Spanish Flu would be barely a blip today. Fear the NEXT thing, not the ancient thing, like maybe mutated Malaria+Ebola.

Entitlemented says

The concepts and perception that we are outsourcing our way to prosperity, that the US's aggregated productivity has increased so much is a Ponzi scheme like the Madoff or the CRA to Private sector Housing scheme.

This is extreme, but has a hint of truth to it. That is to say, there are other issues at play here such as the ever growing part of our GDP that comes from the finance sector.

But to use your frame of reference, why aren't low level workers in the U.S. getting their fair share of the profits from what you're calling a ponzi scheme ? And if they did, would it not improve the demand side of our domestic economy, allowing this ponzi scheme to play out for a longer time, than it does if all of the profits are going to the "investor class ?"

(which inevitably includes thousands of innocent people).

There was a time when all were presumed innocent,,,,until proven guilty

When do we get to actually call the police state a police state. I recently heard America described as the world's largest minimum security prison on BBC.

Localized surveillance, regional prepositioning of thousands of military assets like Bearcats and MRAPs with local domestic law enforcement.
It makes one wonder what they have in mind.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/jun/14/climate-change-energy-shocks-nsa-prism
From the link:
"Just last month, unilateral changes to US military laws formally granted the Pentagon extraordinary powers to intervene in a domestic "emergency" or "civil disturbance":
And:
"Two years later, the Department of Defense's (DoD) Army Modernisation Strategy described the arrival of a new "era of persistent conflict" due to competition for "depleting natural resources and overseas markets" fuelling "future resource wars over water, food and energy." The report predicted a resurgence of:

"... anti-government and radical ideologies that potentially threaten government stability."

In the same year, a report by the US Army's Strategic Studies Institute warned that a series of domestic crises could provoke large-scale civil unrest."

Entitlemented says

When Henry Ford propose building the Ford Mustang they said that only the wealthy could afford them and the workers would not. This as we know was untrue as the scale of economies allowed Mustangs to be afforded by the workers.

Henry Ford was long dead when the Mustang came out. He built the model T.

This is a classic by BB King and Stevie Wonder, live in 2009.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37EWVY8D6g0

Reality says

Purchasing power means how much goods and services the consumer can buy, not how much nominal dollars he can spend. Let's say there is a labor-only service, say baby sitting in an employee arrangement, if the parent has $100 to spend, and the previous wage rate was $10, the parent's purchasing power is 10 hours of baby sitting. If you raise the minimum wage there to $15/hr, the same parent's purchasing power drops to a little over 6hours; i.e. a decline in purchasing power.

That's assuming all babysitters get $10 and hour.

There are 1.566 million people earning mininum wage in 2012 out 138 million people working or a little more than 1%. Raising the minimum wage for 1% of the population by 30% isn't going to have much of an effect of any kind. It's all political theatre. But as proven here it certainly is effective political theatre, diverting people from looking at the real problems.

Sorry reality, I had to use actual real numbers. I know you hate that it as it interferes with your it's true because I feel it's true style of debate. I'll try to avoid that as much as possible.

Robert Sproul says

It makes one wonder what they have in mind.

Why would you have to wonder? Even a cursory reading of world history will provide the answer.

A. The politicians are afraid. They know they have created an unsustainable situation that will lead to a major crisis in the future and want to be able to retain control when it happens.

B. They can get away with it. Every government in history has become ever more controlling and repressive until there is a reset through war or revolution. People always buy the it's for your own good argument until it's too late. People who protest are pictured as unpatriotic or paranoid kooks.

Yeah, I have no doubts about their intentions.
Bush felt it was necessary, for the first time in our nations history, to create a Battle Command Group in the (his ominous coinage) "Homeland".
http://www.progressive.org/rothschild0209.html
"At Brookings, Renuart acknowledged that NorthCom works actively with the FBI’s joint terrorism task force and other intelligence agencies.
“Every day our command center monitors between thirty-five and forty-five events around the United States that might require federal support,” he said. “We can monitor the pulse of our nation. . . . Monitoring that information on a routine basis is part of our daily battle rhythm.”

"daily battle rhythm.” for fucks sake.

The Founders dreaded Standing Army is here.
And you know they are itching for action.
Security is perhaps the highest priority for government planners: security, that is, for its own power and perks.
And, it goes without saying, protection of its primary constituency, the concentrated private power in this corrupt system of Cut-Throat Capitalizm.
(I think they anticipate that the 500 American Billionaires [who control 2 trillion of wealth] and their paid political apparatchiks will eventually need protection…..when a desperate, if diabetic and obese, proletariat finally gets off the couch. Maybe when the Cheeto factory closes.)

bob2356 says

Henry Ford was long dead when the Mustang came out. He built the model T.

No really Henry Ford built the Mustang back in 1909 in memory of that deaf dumb and blind girl Anne Frank.

Vicente says

No really Henry Ford built the Mustang back in 1909 in memory of that deaf dumb and blind girl Anne Frank.

Anne Frank wasn't deaf, dumb, or blind and wasn't born until 1929. WTF are you talking about?

Humor. He was balancing it with the veracity of the first half of the sentence. .

bob2356 says

Vicente says

No really Henry Ford built the Mustang back in 1909 in memory of that deaf dumb and blind girl Anne Frank.

Anne Frank wasn't deaf, dumb, or blind and wasn't born until 1929. WTF are you talking about?

that's what I get for not paying attention to who is posting.

How many were injured & died on & after 9-11 & what is the monetary cost?
How many were injured & died in Afghanistan & Iraq & what is the monetary cost?

Bush & Republican FAILURES.

Damn you Obama! Why didn't you stop this?

Call it Crazy says

Thousands of illegal kids flowing over the southern border...

Cause and Effect from 2 years ago...

Obama administration to stop deporting some young illegal immigrants

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/15/politics/immigration/

HEY YOU says

How many were injured & died on & after 9-11 & what is the monetary cost?

How many were injured & died in Afghanistan & Iraq & what is the monetary cost?

Bush & Republican FAILURES.

Damn you Obama! Why didn't you stop this?

I guess you of all would stop many Americans who saw the attack as act of War and signed up with Military. .. or we shouldnt have gone after AQ in Afganistan or attack other terrorist groups...

how naive of you.

Jazz Music is now officially labeled a terrorist!!!

Bubbabear says

Jazz Music is now officially labeled a terrorist!!!

You too.

Nice vent for someone who just got hit with a virus while pornsurfing...

jazz music says

Blogging opens you to Army cyber attack.

National hero Chris Hedges (recently sued the Federal Govt to annul Indefinite Detention. Lost. http://www.truthdig.com/staff/chris_hedges) basically says resistance to the Corporate State is futile. And resistance is the only hope for personal redemption.
I quit voting this year. I am very, very tired of lesser evil options and am going to withhold my consent from this system going forward.

It's scary that our government has made enough laws to "legally" do just about anything. Too much government for my taste.