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6213   leo707   2011 Apr 7, 3:55am  

Vicente says

I’m definitely not saying that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a young girl in 1990. But isn’t it INTERESTING how much energy he spends denying it. Why doesn’t he just PROVE where he was for every second of 1990? It is a very interesting QUESTION.

Glen Beck also spent lots of money (presumably in the millions) trying to silence this question. He even went crying to un-American international courts. And get this poor Beck lost the court battle…

…Hmmm… now I am not saying that he raped and murder that girl in 1990 (he probably did not), but he refuses to answer the question, then looses the court case trying to silence the question…

…Hmmm… makes the question more interesting.

6214   FortWayne   2011 Apr 7, 3:56am  

it's already April and prices in our area are going down.

But I totally forgot that Susan researched it to the opposite.

6215   leo707   2011 Apr 7, 4:00am  

RayAmerica says

I’m not a “bither” (like Clarence), but I find it interesting that Trump recently stated that Obama has spent over $2 million in legal fees to fight the “birther” thingy. The Donald asked the question: “if there is nothing there, why would you spend $2 million?” Very interesting question.

Because in this country people can sue others for any reason they want.

I have a question: Why has Obama been winning all the birther lawsuits? ...Hmmm... yes... interesting...

6216   Done!   2011 Apr 7, 4:04am  

Yeah well the Commodity market players are humping your dinner plate, gas tank, the bread box, and your refrigerator. Like the Robot Chicken washing machine humping robot. While the Fed dims the lights, and pours the wine.

6217   Vicente   2011 Apr 7, 4:18am  

The Donald is now sending PI's to Hawaii to investigate Obama's birth.

Wow, nobody thought of that before?

Strange he didn't hire famous Thomas Magnum P.I., he's a known Obama critic.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/07/trump-sends-investigators-to-hawaii-to-look-into-obama/

6218   tomme12   2011 Apr 7, 4:24am  

Ok first, this thread is driving me nuts... bunch of little old ladies bickering about the real color of apples and oranges... jeesh.

Klarek, Im not sure where you live, but in Walnut Creek, (Bay area) I just checked CL and saw the following:
3 bedroom rentals range: 1450-6100
2 bedroom rentals range: 1000-1900

The point being, especially in the bay area, these micro climates in prices have NO reflect on prices outside of these areas. The data is absolutely mind boggling to come up with any one conclusion. Some house around the corner from me just sold for $800k, I see they are doing some renovations already assuming kitchen and some others items ($100k). People have the money for these places, they are not going away. I have been hearing and reading for the past 2+ years... its crappy, going down hill, bottom is coming..... I have yet to see anything but a flat line at least in my "micro climate" of real estate. And I only pay attention to whats in my immediate area. I could care less about Brentwood and Milpitas, San Mateo, etc. These have no real effect on my house value. (at least what I have seen to make me any more worried)

6219   Huntington Moneyworth III, Esq   2011 Apr 7, 4:51am  

He should make a new show: "Apprentice: Hawaiian PI". Imagine all of these doofus MBAs running around the Hawaiian government archives on missiions to "prove" Obama isn't American. The show would be fucking hilarious!

Up the antics and do a "Celebrity Apprentice" version. Have Dog The Bounty Hunter lead a group of burnout celebrities around Hawaii trying to dig up dirt on the President. The ideal cast:

Charlie Sheen - obligatory drug addict
The Koran burning Florida Pastor - to prove Obama is a Muslim and to burn the birth certificate!
Tom DeLay - for the dancing competition!
Orly Taitz - the Birther Queen herself!
Big Bird - famous Muppet Birther!
Stephen Colbert
Joe Farah - Editor of WorldNetDaily and mustachioed conspiracy theorist extraordinairre!

6220   leo707   2011 Apr 7, 4:54am  

Vicente says

Strange he didn’t hire famous Thomas Magnum P.I., he’s a known Obama critic.

I would be appropriate for a man who lives in a self deluded fantasy world to hire a fictional detective. Oh yeah, and also be a tea bagger.

Forced to face a little reality Trump did lose his defamation suit against the reporter that called him a mere-millionaire.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30813448/ns/business-us_business/

6221   Vicente   2011 Apr 7, 5:11am  

I think this is an opening for a re-imagined Magnum P.I.

Donald Trump as the off-screen Robin Masters?
Charlie Sheen as Thomas Magnum
Higgins?

Who would play all the buddies?

6222   FortWayne   2011 Apr 7, 7:52am  

http://www.smartmoney.com/personal-finance/real-estate/buyers-shun-new-homes-1301521568482/

one thing for sure, and that is 2011 is a terrible time to buy.

6223   leo707   2011 Apr 7, 9:11am  

shrekgrinch says

leoj707 says

I have a question: Why has Obama been winning all the birther lawsuits? …Hmmm… yes… interesting…

Because it takes a vote of four SCs to hear the case and they won’t. It will be a big mess that they would rather not deal with, as both Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia have said publicly.

Thanks that makes perfect sense. Oh… wait… no, that is total bullshit.

A brief history of the failed legal struggle fueled by tea bagging fantasies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories

Federal Courts

Berg v. Obama
United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit affirmed the district court's ruling that Berg lacked standing.

Kerchner v. Obama
Supreme Court declined, without comment, to hear the case.

Barnett v. Obama
At a hearing … …Carter… …he dismissed the case. The case is currently pending in the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.

Hollister v. Soetoro
U.S. Supreme Court declined, without comment, to hear the case.

Cook v. Good
Cook's case was dismissed as moot

Rhodes v. Macdonald
U.S. Supreme Court declined, without comment, to hear the case.

State Courts

Martin v. Lingle
The court denied Martin's petition

Donofrio v. Wells
the case reached the United States Supreme Court on December 8, 2008, the Court declined without comment to hear the case.

Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz
The suit was dismissed after initial hearings.

Keyes v. Bowen
The California Supreme Court declined, without comment, to review the case on February 2, 2011.

Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana
Governor's motion to dismiss was granted. The Plaintiffs appealed the ruling to the Indiana Court of Appeals, which upheld it on November 12, 2009.

Indictment attempts using "citizen grand juries"
Chief Judge Royce C. Lamberth of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia rejected the "indictment" on July 2.

6224   bubblesitter   2011 Apr 7, 9:15am  

2007 and before= great time to buy.
2007 = great time to buy.
2008 = great time to buy.
......
2011 = great time to buy.

It's always good time to buy

:)

6225   RayAmerica   2011 Apr 7, 9:29am  

I think all reasonable people, regardless of their political persuasion, would have to agree that even Donald Trump would be far better than Obama at this point. Obama is a complete disaster. 2012 can't come soon enough (even though I'll be 2 years older).

6226   Vicente   2011 Apr 7, 9:34am  

Isn't Trump the one who thinks cheating people on real estate deals is brilliant basis for foreign policy?

6227   leo707   2011 Apr 7, 9:48am  

RayAmerica says

I think all reasonable people, regardless of their political persuasion, would have to agree that even Donald Trump would be far better than Obama at this point. Obama is a complete disaster. 2012 can’t come soon enough (even though I’ll be 2 years older).

Only people that don't know Trump beyond his marketed image.

George W. was a disaster, Obama has just been a disappointment.

At least W. does not brag about cheating people in business deals.

6228   sfbubblebuyer   2011 Apr 7, 9:59am  

Klingons would make great Realtors. " DaHjaj 'oH QaQ jaj Daq tlhong!"

6229   terriDeaner   2011 Apr 7, 10:01am  

No thank you sir or madam! I am frightened and confused by the garish colors and threatening imagery you chose for your advertisement. Therefore, I will stick to the OLD way of advertising my property.
6230   leo707   2011 Apr 7, 10:45am  

shrekgrinch says

Hey! I am NOT a birther.

Haha, you funny.

That is like the pope hobbling around in his fancy clothes and hat conducting mass, then saying, "I am NOT the pope; why would you think that!"

6231   marcus   2011 Apr 7, 11:39am  

Why am i not surprised that Shirk is in to the whole teabag thing ? Fricken deviant.

Or that the teabaggers are pulling this bait and switch. They get elected supposedly to fight spending (by the most out of touch voters (such as shirk) that have no clue why interest rates are still close to zero after all the stimulus that has occurred).

And then they turn around and hold the budget hostage to their extremely unpopular social agenda.

6232   kimboslice   2011 Apr 7, 12:06pm  

I do not agree with cutting funding for Planned Parenthood. I and others want government out of our lives and off our wallets, but do not object to women having access to inexpensive health care. Teabagging is a gay male sex act, so the people who call those who attended Tea Party meetings "teabaggers" are wrong. The gays I know would never go to a Tea Party. The EPA should stop over-stepping its authority, so if it needs its wings to be clipped, fine.

6233   kimboslice   2011 Apr 7, 12:13pm  

What is mysterious is why did not Obama and the Democrats pass a budget last year before the new Republican majority house of representatives was seated? Some suspicious people may conclude that Obama cynically planned this showdown after the disastrous election in November gave him a "shellacking" by deliberately not having a budget.

6234   marcus   2011 Apr 7, 12:22pm  

kimboslice says

Teabagging is a gay male sex act

That's why I find it amusing that shirk (or shirkwad as his friends call him) is so in to it !

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

6235   RayAmerica   2011 Apr 7, 12:24pm  

leoj707 says

George W. was a disaster, Obama has just been a disappointment.

Obama is Bush on hyper-steroids. The only thing that's changed under Obama is that the national debt has exploded beyond what the reckless spending Bush could have ever dreamed. Wall Street and the Mega Bankers power has grown even more under Obama, and in case you haven't noticed, he has dramatically expanded the war in Afghanistan along with new aggression into Libya. I could go on and on. Obama is hardly just a little "disappointment" unless you're drowning in Kool-Aid.

6236   FortWayne   2011 Apr 7, 12:33pm  

marcus says

kimboslice says

Teabagging is a gay male sex act

That’s why I find it amusing that shirk (or shirkwad as his friends call him) is so in to it !
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Shouldn't you be at your union rally voting yourself another raise at taxpayer expense while spitting at the private sector?

6237   leo707   2011 Apr 7, 12:55pm  

shrekgrinch says

Yeah, because 4 SCs were needed to decided whether the case would be heard. Which didn’t happen in all those cases — that is what ‘U.S. Supreme Court declined, without comment, to hear the case’ means. You did know that right, Genius? So what is my ‘bullshit’ exactly?

Oh wait… now I see… thanks for pointing that out… my bad…

Wait no, on second thought… Still Bullshit.

Each of your fingers must be a little bull's backside, and you are making quite a mess of your keyboard.

It is bullshit to misrepresent facts and/or distort facts.

Correct me if I am wrong but, your insinuation is that, while there may be merit to the suits, the Supreme Court does not want to hear them because it is not something they want to “deal with.”

And that sir, is… um… cough… bullshit.

…hmmm, I remember another messy issue of who was the President that the SC had not problem ruling on. The day the SC will not listen to a case because it is too messy and difficult is the day we need a new panel of justices.

Oh, so 3 out of the 12 cases the SC “declined, without comment, to hear the case.”
I am sure that the SC declines to comment on cases all the time for all sorts of reasons, but perhaps we can do some sleuthing and look at the other 9 cases for a clue.

…Hmmm… I am seeing words like: dismissed and declined (after hearing the argument), moot, lacked standing, etc…

If I have misrepresented your insinuation and you agree that all 12 cases have been rejected because they are baseless and without merit, them my apologies.

Until then I call shenanigans on you.

6238   leo707   2011 Apr 7, 12:59pm  

shrekgrinch says

PROVE that I am a birther. Especially since I have never claimed any stance stating belief that Obama was not born in the US.

Why? when some guy says that he is totaly striaght, but just likes to go down on men a couple times a year I don't have to prove he is not straight. He already did if for me.

6239   leo707   2011 Apr 7, 1:11pm  

Ray I am not going to do your research for you. In this day and age ignorance is a choice. Remember just because they say it on FOX “news” does not make it true, in fact it is probably not.
RayAmerica says

The only thing that’s changed under Obama is that the national debt has exploded beyond what the reckless spending Bush could have ever dreamed.

Haha, no.

Wall Street and the Mega Bankers power has grown even more under Obama,

Um, no again.

and in case you haven’t noticed, he has dramatically expanded the war in Afghanistan

Uh, yeah… that is where we should have been fighting instead of Iraq. Or don’t you want to get ben Laden?

along with new aggression into Libya.

Too soon to tell.

I could go on and on.

Don’t bother.

6240   terriDeaner   2011 Apr 7, 1:47pm  

http://is.this.a.hint.for.someone.special.in.your.life?.lmnop
6242   RayAmerica   2011 Apr 8, 2:56am  

leoj707 says

Haha, no.

leoj707 says

Um, no again.

leoj707 says

Uh, yeah… that is where we should have been fighting instead of Iraq. Or don’t you want to get ben Laden?

leoj707 says

Too soon to tell.

leoj707 says

Don’t bother.

I admit it. I'm overwhelmed by the sheer power of your in depth analysis and incredibly intelligent responses. You win (ummm, just like Charlie Sheen).

6243   RayAmerica   2011 Apr 8, 3:03am  

Nomograph says

- Focus on Afghanistan to root out enemies who attacked the U.S.

I thought the attackers on 9/11 came from Saudi Arabia? CIA estimates that there are only 200 al Qaeda operatives in Afghanistan, which of course proves beyond all doubt that Obama was right when he dramatically increased the number of troops there.

PS: you also forgot to mention Obama's expansion into Libya. I wonder why?

PS #2: you also forgot to mention Obama's incredible expansion of the National Debt. I wonder why (part 2)?

PS #3: you also forgot to mention Obama's failure in "renegotiating NAFTA & GATT" which he repeatedly promised during his campaign. I wonder why (part 3).

6244   leo707   2011 Apr 8, 3:06am  

RayAmerica says

I admit it. I’m overwhelmed by the sheer power of your in depth analysis and incredibly intelligent responses.

Don't worry, I understand how one of you intellectual capabilities could feel overwhelmed by what I would consider limited analysis. However, remember that there is much more behind my short answers, but as I said...
leoj707 says

Ray I am not going to do your research for you. In this day and age ignorance is a choice.

Ray, your inability (borne either by choice, or natural mental capacity) to "face facts" give me little desire to illuminate you further.

6245   Vicente   2011 Apr 8, 3:12am  

When do we see the first inkling of spring results?

It's hilarious to me, I've been saying since 2006:
"I think I'll rent until about 2012"

For which I was constantly ridiculed as "missing" the bottom which had already passed.

I can wait until a real cessation of price drops is readily apparent. I want to see a real floor not a monthly ledge.

6246   leo707   2011 Apr 8, 3:19am  

RayAmerica says

I thought the attackers on 9/11 came from Saudi Arabia?

Some did that is true and a troubling and unanswered issue.

On thing that we do (or did rather) know the answer to was where the al Qaeda leadership was based, and supported. Ray, do you know the answer to that?

I don't want to hold your hand too much, but here is a hint: when you discover the answer to where the al Qaeda leadership was during 9/11 you will then find out why we are at war in Afghanistan.

RayAmerica says

PS:

Look deep... you don't even have to leave this web page.

Nomograph was responding to a single statement you made. Once you understand what Nomograph was responding to you will understand why all you PS's are moot.

You Can Do It Ray! We can't do all your thinking for you. Think of it as a exercise to grow your brain's abilities.

6247   klarek   2011 Apr 8, 4:11am  

Vicente says

When do we see the first inkling of spring results?

We should be in "spring rebound" mode, which I had been assured by one individual that it would occur early this year since the "winter doldrums" apparently began in August. Somehow that bounce is elusive.

Vicente says

“I think I’ll rent until about 2012″

For which I was constantly ridiculed as “missing” the bottom which had already passed.

You were able to see through the fog, that the false bottom was a fool's trap. Those who ridiculed are backpedaling faster than Lance Armstrong.

6248   bubblesitter   2011 Apr 8, 4:59am  

Vicente says

When do we see the first inkling of spring results?
It’s hilarious to me, I’ve been saying since 2006:

“I think I’ll rent until about 2012″
For which I was constantly ridiculed as “missing” the bottom which had already passed.
I can wait until a real cessation of price drops is readily apparent. I want to see a real floor not a monthly ledge.
“Eagles are dandified vultures” - Teddy Roosevelt

Same here. Been waiting since 2004. People at my work were buying left and right in 2004 and I went a different direction and I am delighted I did. Now just waiting for a true bottom. :)

6249   thomas.wong1986   2011 Apr 8, 5:54am  

bubblesitter says

Same here. Been waiting since 2004. People at my work were buying left and right in 2004 and I went a different direction and I am delighted I did. Now just waiting for a true bottom.

We are pretty much at 2004 prices today. Back in 2004 and even still today way way out from the norm/bottom in prices. It was rather mindboogling how much people were bidding/buying up home in 2002-2004 for compared to 5-6 years prior.

http://www.housingbubblebust.com/OFHEO/Major/NorCal.html

6250   HousingWatcher   2011 Apr 8, 6:32am  

If the Republicans won't fund the govt. now, just imagine what will happen on May 15th when the debt ceiling is reached. If the Republicans remain stubborn, we could be in a Great Depression on May 16th.

6251   2fayfays   2011 Apr 8, 7:23am  

The best people talking about is to hold physical silver because when the Comex default, price will shoot up to the sky and none of those contracts traded will honor the delivery. While I accumulate physical gold with my cash, I trade silver ETF in my 401k and so far so good. I use couple technical indicators to trade and came across this one which is pretty helpful. Once you got the fundamental correct, the only thing you need to worry is to use technical to optimize your profit.

6252   2fayfays   2011 Apr 8, 7:26am  

I don't think shorting China is a good idea, BTW shorting is not a good idea either because you can't fight against inflation over time. In other words, time is not on your side and China GDP eventually will break today's record multiple times or 10 or 20 times who knows; and that will smash you really bad.

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