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Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

PS Does this mean the FBI is trustworthy, valiant defenders of justice again, and no longer Putin's Racist Agents of Disruption?

No, the FBI almost never confirms or denies they are investigating anyone, so no, they still fucked up big time. Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

650,000 emails reviewed in a few days: Efficiency Record unmatched.

The Two-tiered justice system continues.

everytime it goes against you, its rigged. just like your hero trump.... Loser assholes both of you!

This will backfire on Clinton.

APPEARANCE OF RIGGEDNESS ON STEROIDS.

Tenpoundbass says

Of course She's innocent she kilt the man leaking her info that could have testified and his wife.

Are we supposed to think you believe this ? OR are we supposed to think you look down on the idiots that you would like to get to vote for Trump (for some reason).

I am sure Comey knew he'd be pushing up some daisies if he did not make this announcement.

40c8 says

everytime it goes against you, its rigged. just like your hero trump.... Loser assholes both of you!

Does this mean Putin had the FBI switch sides again? Or was it the vast right wing conspiracy? Or was it irredeemable deploreables within the FBI?

Comey probably figured he wasn't paid enough for the first round of extortion, and now has received appropriate reassurances and compensations.

So deleting 33,000 emails after you receive a subpeona from congress is innocent?? Third world -here we come.

I get the feeling this Jackass was only fingering her, and he was expecting someone else to do his job, because he CAN'T or he will get fired or Kilt, along with his whole family.
This is OUR fault for not lobbing charges against her.

Trump just spent the last 9 days telling everyone how great Comey is and that Hillary was going to jail. Lol. What's he going to say tomorrow? Will there be an angry 4am tweet tomorrow?

The Democrats just spent the last 9 days telling everyone how Russian Mind Rays or Deploreable Racist Sentiment are controlling the FBI, after praising them to the Echo all Summer and Fall. What will the Democrats say tomorrow? That Putin turned off the Mind Control Satellite hovering in geosynchronous orbit over DC?

Remember, when it goes after the Poster Child of the Corrupt Establishment, no whopper is too great to tell. Because the Very Serious People say so, it's true!

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

The Democrats just spent the last 9 days telling everyone how Russian Mind Rays or Deploreable Racist Sentiment are controlling the FBI, after praising them to the Echo all Summer and Fall. What will the Democrats say tomorrow? That Putin turned off the Mind Control Satellite hovering in geosynchronous orbit over DC?

Remember, when it goes after the Poster Child of the Corrupt Establishment, no whopper is too great to tell. Because the Very Serious People say so, it's true!

The moderate Democrats said Comey was an honorable man who made a mistake going public. The more partisan ones thought it was egregious and unacceptable. They are emboldened by the lack of new evidence. I imagine that Clinton will let it go if she is elected. She's not like Trump, who would clearly never let it go.

So, this hurt Clinton, but at least it won't much on 11/8. There must be folks in the FBI who are leaking stuff to the Republicans. That is unacceptable.

lostand confused says

So deleting 33,000 emails after you receive a subpeona from congress is innocent?? Third world -here we come.

Trump deleted files when courts wanted them. Tie goes to Clinton. She is still ahead in the polls.

Indiana Jones says

I am sure Comey knew he'd be pushing up some daisies if he did not make this announcement.

How does he know the Republicans won't kill him? Get real.

Hillary is guilty as it gets.

The relevant federal statute regarding accessing, forwarding, taking custody of and disseminating classified documents requires NO INTENT TO DO SO (even though a competent prosecutor could easily prove Hillary had such intent).

As a very famous and effective defense lawyer once said, the threshold for indictment is so low that federal prosecutors "could indict a ham sandwich" if they chose to do so (though Hillary really did break serious federal law).

This is clearly a case of Hillary being treated as if she's above the law.

The politically-motivated, highly partisan DOJ, under Loretta Lynch didn't want to do ANYTHING to hurt Hillcriminal's chances of being elected, so Lynch essentially quashed the whole thing,'using the FBI and Comey as the fall guy.

#RiggedSystem

all this means is Mr. Comey will sell newspaper on the streets when Trump is president.

18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

(g) If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy.
(h)
(1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States, irrespective of any provision of State law, any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, from any foreign government, or any faction or party or military or naval force within a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United States, as the result of such violation. For the purposes of this subsection, the term “State” includes a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, and any commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States.
(2) The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1) of this subsection.
(3) The provisions of subsections (b), (c), and (e) through (p) of section 413 of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 (21 U.S.C. 853(b), (c), and (e)–(p)) shall apply to—
(A) property subject to forfeiture under this subsection;
(B) any seizure or disposition of such property; and
(C) any administrative or judicial proceeding in relation to such property,
if not inconsistent with this subsection.
(4) Notwithstanding section 524(c) of title 28, there shall be deposited in the Crime Victims Fund in the Treasury all amounts from the forfeiture of property under this subsection remaining after the payment of expenses for forfeiture and sale authorized by law.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 736; Sept. 23, 1950, ch. 1024, title I, § 18, 64 Stat. 1003; Pub. L. 99–399, title XIII, § 1306(a), Aug. 27, 1986, 100 Stat. 898; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147; Pub. L. 103–359, title VIII, § 804(b)(1), Oct. 14, 1994, 108 Stat. 3440; Pub. L. 104–294, title VI, § 607(b), Oct. 11, 1996, 110 Stat. 3511.)

Look at (f) jackass.

Gross negligence is the standard under (f), and each of these sections has a different standard re intent, negligence, etc.

[Comey] said he was able to locate just one case prosecuted under the "gross negligence" provision of 18 USC 793 in the century since the law was passed, which shows federal prosecutors "have grave concerns about whether it's appropriate to prosecute somebody for gross negligence."

Loretta Lynch deferred the case to the FBI to investigate and compile a report regarding whether to file charges (unprecedented in and of itself).

Lynch and the DOJ were never going to indict Hillary but wanted political cover, and found it in Comey.

Any competent prosecutor could have successfully prosecuted Hillcriminally under section (f).

Hillary, who kept a private fucking server in her fucking basement where she kept hundreds of thousands of state department docs, many which were sensitive, classified, or even top-secret...

It's all FUCKING RIGGED.

freespeechforever says

It's all FUCKING RIGGED.

RIGGED!! BENGHAZI!! DEATH PANELS!! EBOLA!! SKEWED POLLS!! KENYA!! You losers always have some bullshit reason why someone else is to blame for you being losers.

whitefaceddogey says

freespeechforever says

It's all FUCKING RIGGED.

It's useless.

Don't bother.

His/Its brain is a jellified, contorted, half-melted partisan blob.

jazz music votes early says

nobody thinks

you speaking for everyone?

FP says

My argument is that you have no proof that Comey was trying to sabotage the elections.

Well, that he was advised by literally EVERYONE not to release his letter saying the investigation was open again would be a starting point...

that apparently he sent this with literally ZERO info that anything on that computer had to do with Hillary is a good second point.

that there is an actual rule that the FBI will be extremely careful not to influence elections is point 3...

ironpussy, better start deleting all your posts about how trump is winning... just like you deleted all the "rmoney winning" ones!

wow you are such a fucking coward, even online!

40c8 says

Well, that he was advised by literally EVERYONE not to release his letter

Then what was there for him to do it?

FP says

No, I can't be bothered, neither there is need to. We established that your statement about Comey is just a subjective opinion. Therefore, I am entitled to a subjective opinion that it is wrong.

Except his subjective opinion is based on the actions of Comey. Yours is based on...

Rashomon says

Except his subjective opinion is based on the actions of Comey. Yours is based on...

the actions of Comey

While the government tends to seriously over-classify documents, in part to make them immune to Freedom-of-Information requests, it is not a defense to say I did not think that document classified Secret was all that Secret.

Ranina ranina says

Or he's just sincere in keeping the public appraised of the email situation, realizing the attorney general interfered in July in not letting him proceed with the grand jury angle he so desperately wanted and would be willing to sacrifice his career to get out the truth.

Or you mean his actions against advice and precedent look like he was meddling rather than sincere especially given that a computer check of the emails in advance would have demonstrated that they were almost entirely duplicates and showed nothing new. Instead he blundered straight into it knowing that it would negatively impact the chances of one candidate and most importantly, did so without any actual proof of wrongdoing. That shows him to either be an individual with extraordinarily poor judgement or outright bias. Either way, it doesn't look good for a man heading up the FBI.

Rashomon says

You said his actions could be interpreted in different ways, so give us your interpretation.

But my interpretation, apart from the fact that such is permissible, is an entirely different topic. As I wrote earlier, I can't be bother to explain further.

“If [Hillary Clinton] thinks she is clean, then tell everybody around her to go ahead and stop pleading the Fifth. Come to Congress and tell us the truth." — Congressman Jason Chaffetz

FP says

But my interpretation, apart from the fact that such is permissible, is an entirely different topic. As I wrote earlier, I can't be bother to explain further.

You have to laugh.

Rashomon says

You have to laugh.

I do!

indigenous says

“If [Hillary Clinton] thinks she is clean, then tell everybody around her to go ahead and stop pleading the Fifth. Come to Congress and tell us the truth." — Congressman Jason Chaffetz

Telling everyone around her to stop pleading the fifth would be the absolute dumbest thing she could do. But I'm not surprised that pissant Chaffetz is whining for it to happen. The GOPers have been worshipping Clintons for decades and it's been worth fuck all. They would be happy to subpoena her bathwater if it kept them from doing their jobs as lawmakers and enabled them to empanel yet another pointless kangaroo hearing circle-jerk of weeping self-important Chicken Littles. In the event she wins they are already planning four more years of wasted taxpayer-funded witch hunts that will lead to nothing but taxpayer-funded witch hunts. First a black man and then a non-man. Do you really think they need MORE assistance in the obstruction that has trashed their approval rating with the American electorate? More?

neplusultra57 says

Telling everyone around her to stop pleading the fifth would be the absolute dumbest thing she could do. But I'm not surprised that pissant Chaffetz is whining for it to happen. The GOPers have been worshipping Clintons for decades and it's been worth fuck all. They would be happy to subpoena her bathwater if it kept them from doing their jobs as lawmakers and enabled them to empanel yet another pointless kangaroo hearing circle-jerk of weeping self-important Chicken Littles. In the event she wins they are already planning four more years of wasted taxpayer-funded witch hunts that will lead to nothing but taxpayer-funded witch hunts. First a black man and then a non-man. Do you really think they need MORE assistance in the obstruction that has trashed their approval rating with the American electorate? More?

Wow you believe that? All the smoke coming from the Clintons does not indicate any fire?

I knew the trolls would eventually get to Iwop...

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

Y'know, back when he was the Font of All Wisdom before he came under intense internal pressure

Ok. We are in agreement.

Rashomon says

Or you mean his her actions running classified documents on a personal server against advice and precedent look like he was meddling she was dealing