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zzyzzx is deplorable says

http://www.politico.eu/article/yes-president-marine-le-pen-is-now-more-possible-trump-clinton/

Yes, President Marine Le Pen is now more possible

The underlying trends that carried Trump to power are also present in France, and they are likely to fuel an inordinately strong performance by Le Pen next May — perhaps even her victory.

So, the post-war powers will still have two women leaders in 2017.

Am I drunk or something? Marine Le Pen's current odds on PredictIt is BETTER than Trump's on Monday.

Trump wins and world gets a message...don't fuck with America.

Heraclitusstudent says

The French are leftists. They would never elect Trump. It's extremely unlikely that Le Pen could pass the 50% of votes in the runoff.

Le Pen is a leftist by US standard.

It's no surprise that Hillary lost and Bernie would have won. Pick the most hated senator instead of the most liked one? And pick the establishment candidate over the anti-establishment on during the biggest anti-establishment election in U.S. history? Stupid doesn't begin to cover this.

www.youtube.com/embed/eKztHPHUqGU

It's no surprise that Hillary lost and Bernie would have won. Pick the most hated senator instead of the most liked one? And pick the establishment candidate over the anti-establishment on during the biggest anti-establishment election in U.S. history? Stupid doesn't begin to cover this.
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They just wanted the next president to be a woman so bad that they were blind to everything else. The ends justified the means.

turtledove says

They just wanted the next president to be a woman so bad that they were blind to everything else. The ends justified the means

Ivanka 2024?

Dan8267 says

It's no surprise that Hillary lost and Bernie would have won.

woulda coulda shoulda. Get over it.

Peter P says

Ivanka 2024?

Vs Chelsea?

Heraclitusstudent says

Peter P says

Ivanka 2024?

Vs Chelsea?

LOL! If Trump is still president in 2024 then it is going to be Mike Pence on the ticket.

jazz music votes early says

WTF would you have us learn? That Ayn Rand rules? That trickle down is the greatest economic theory ever? That's a far cry from the guarantees we and even taxpayers abroad are subsidizing for the .1% who appoint themselves as winners via political donations.

How about "Don't take money from Wall Street and Banks for speeches and appearances moments before you announce your Presidential Campaign"

You beat me to it! Ivanka v. Chelsea... I want Dan to be happy, too. Maybe Taylor Swift can be the 3rd party candidate.

jazz music votes early says

Even you observe that Trump's electorate base are people who are celebrating mostly their emotional buttons getting pushed and others observed they all want to join hands to scream out a big "FUCK YOU" to their mostly miserable plights of lost homes, retirements, careers, etc. and "FUCK YOU" to the poor people who have been continually thrown in their faces to account for the big drain on their lives.

Yeah, I totally see this right now with all the blue haired SJWs running around in the streets like chickens with their heads cut off.

turtledove says

You beat me to it! Ivanka v. Chelsea... I want Dan to be happy, too. Maybe Taylor Swift can be the 3rd party candidate.

I'm sure he prefers Scarlet Johanssen.

Ivanka the Beautiful, the exact opposite of Ivan the Terrible.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Margot Gerster, who ran into Hillary Clinton on a hike just a day after she conceded the race

Margot's lucky. I just ran into Anthony Weiner while on a hike. He took a selfie with me, which wouldn't have been bad if he had been wearing pants.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

The photo was snapped by former President Bill Clinton, who was there as well.

After Bill took the photo he said, "OK, ladies, now one kissing.".

When they write about the causes of WW3 it will read: economic hardship, due to wealth disparity, ushered in scapegoating against others and nations became gripped by nationalism. In the guise of people's champions, populist figures rose to power on the fear and nationalism swaying the people. But, because no elected leaders removed the economic imbalances, reduced monied influence in government, and applied true progressive tax systems, the economic hardships continued into depression. Nationalism and depression lead to inevitable war, as the only thing leaders had to blame, to unify their populations and maintain power, was neighboring nation states that were once their strongest global trade partners.

Nationalism, Racisim, Islamaphobia, Anti-Intellectualism : these are merely the outward symptoms/manifestations of the economic woes, the disenfranchised voice, of the rural/non-market-competitive whites.

#notmypresident is wrong. He is your president and yes, there will be massive upticks in hate crimes. Yes, he is a bigoted bafoon. I understand that your "leader" spoke out against you directly.

But that's actually not really the fight. The problem is not going away by drum circles and tolerance training. The battle isn't against hate. Hate is a runny nose, a cough, a motivator.

The problem gets addressed when Sanders version 2.0 comes and removes Citizens United, ushers in massive campaign finance reform, and actually gets money into people's hands at the expense of the 1%.That may be a candidate to unify the nation.

"Pussy grabbing", and the like, is a complete sideshow issue, though I do understand the protests right now.

Do you understand the nationalism sweeping the world?

Hillary Clinton can go on a hike? She can't even walk up stairs without help.

Now reported to be staged:

Run!!!

IMO, the major take-away for Democrats is that you cannot win an election by focusing on racism or sexism. If the majority just don't care about that even with a candidate like Donald, just forget about that play.
Maybe, they should have focused more on the environment. I also think that Hillary made a mistake refusing to defend what she likes about free trade. By failing to defend what she likes about the issue, she just looked like a duplicitous tool.

I wonder what the Green party is thinking today. Maybe they think Hillary would be just as bad, and also think about appointing a climate change denier to head the EPA. Maybe Stein will be comforted by Donald's lack of respect for science. They overlap a bit there.

turtledove says

They just wanted the next president to be a woman so bad that they were blind to everything else.

Maybe there was some of this, but imho mostly Hillary wanted Hillary to be president and the establishment complied.

YesYNot says

IMO, the major take-away for Democrats is that you cannot win an election by focusing on racism or sexism. If the majority just don't care about that even with a candidate like Donald, just forget about that play.

Maybe, they should have focused more on the environment. I also think that Hillary made a mistake refusing to defend what she likes about free trade. By failing to defend what she likes about the issue, she just looked like a duplicitous tool.

The Democrats should have focused more on terrorism, and less on locker room talk.

This is an interesting read on what happened

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/

turtledove says

They just wanted the next president to be a woman so bad that they were blind to everything else. The ends justified the means.

Agreed for the most part. That was a huge problem. A woman at any cost, even a woman who would set back women's rights by 40 years.

However, I would like to add that Hillary was also picked because she was the insider next in line to be president, whereas Bernie Sanders was a rebel rouser and outsider as far as the DNC was concerned. Sanders was stirring up trouble, whereas Hillary has a long history of touting the DNC's agenda and making political connections and favors. Had both candidates been men or both been women, Hillary would still have been chosen over Sanders and done everything they could to ensure Hillary was the nominee.

It's too bad that Hillary actually prevented two really good women from having any chance of becoming president. I'd love to see an Elizabeth Warren / William Black ticket. I'd also like to see Jill Stein run as a Democrat with the Democrats adopting the Green Party's platform largely or in whole.

The Clinton's, Obama's, Pelosi, Reid have brought a lot of disgrace to the Democrat party. They used to be a party with much more class - hell, I even voted blue several elections.

If Reid is doubling down on Trump, it's going to be a losing battle for this asshole.

These guys will all be dead within 5 years. they don't have clue on how to make money honestly and until 18 moths ago. They were sure that their Billion dollar retirement was on track.

LOL You'll see!

turtledove says

I want Dan to be happy, too. Maybe Taylor Swift can be the 3rd party candidate.

If Taylor Swift ran for president once her fans are old enough to vote, she'd win in a landslide even as a third party candidate. Remember when California elected Arnold Schwarzenegger as governor in that recall election? Americans love celebrities, and Taylor Swift has an army of followers not seen since the Kiss Army all got hip replacements and had to retire.

And you don't want to fuck with the army of teenage girls that make up the Swift Army. Just ask Michael J. Fox.

Glad Trump didn't accept & denounced KKK endorsement.
He's such a tolerant conservative.

Guess making Rep/Con/Teas look like fools should be scratched off the bucket list.

Harry Reid has yet to experience the Weirding Module.
Trrrrrrrrrruuuuuummmmmmppp.
His name is a killing word.

I aint even mad though

" However, they can vote for Hillary Clinton if they choose. Even in states where that is not allowed, their vote would still be counted, they would simply pay a small fine - which we can be sure Clinton supporters will be glad to pay!"

Gosh! I can't believe Rep/Con/Teas are so dumb to not know that electors can vote how they choose.
Trump can still lose!
Dumbass HEY YOU knew this.
This must mean that Rep/Con/Teas are dumber than me.
I'm releasing a new movie "Dumber".

Will they vote against the will of the voters?
Everyone likes surprises. Hope Trump is ready for any of the possible Black Swans in the next four years.

Obamacare will go much sooner than that list suggests.

I agree. It will probably come before the wall and certainly before the second term.

The Wall has already been authorized many times, just not funded by the Country Club GOP.

I still think the wall is symbolic. But he will improve border security bigly.

What is the point illegal immigration is way down.

He's definitely said abolish Obamacare, repeal Common Core, renegotiate the Trade Deals, bring back manufacturing, and deport illegal aliens over and over and over again.

The Wall is going to end up being a mix of roads/railroads, economic zones, free trade zones, and actual physical and electronic barriers.

Relocate the maquiadoras to the Wall Area, slap a 15% payroll tax on employed Mexicans there, and whack up a portion of it with the Mexican Elite who can steal some of that money for themselves in return for their assistance. They'll be glad to do it. The rest will go towards building/maintaining the BEZ (Border Economic Zone).