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76913   Heraclitusstudent   2016 Nov 10, 5:10pm  

Dan8267 says

It's no surprise that Hillary lost and Bernie would have won.

woulda coulda shoulda. Get over it.

76914   Heraclitusstudent   2016 Nov 10, 5:10pm  

Peter P says

Ivanka 2024?

Vs Chelsea?

76915   Peter P   2016 Nov 10, 5:13pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

Peter P says

Ivanka 2024?

Vs Chelsea?

LOL! If Trump is still president in 2024 then it is going to be Mike Pence on the ticket.

76916   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 10, 5:15pm  

jazz music votes early says

WTF would you have us learn? That Ayn Rand rules? That trickle down is the greatest economic theory ever? That's a far cry from the guarantees we and even taxpayers abroad are subsidizing for the .1% who appoint themselves as winners via political donations.

How about "Don't take money from Wall Street and Banks for speeches and appearances moments before you announce your Presidential Campaign"

76917   turtledove   2016 Nov 10, 5:15pm  

You beat me to it! Ivanka v. Chelsea... I want Dan to be happy, too. Maybe Taylor Swift can be the 3rd party candidate.

76918   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 10, 5:16pm  

jazz music votes early says

Even you observe that Trump's electorate base are people who are celebrating mostly their emotional buttons getting pushed and others observed they all want to join hands to scream out a big "FUCK YOU" to their mostly miserable plights of lost homes, retirements, careers, etc. and "FUCK YOU" to the poor people who have been continually thrown in their faces to account for the big drain on their lives.

Yeah, I totally see this right now with all the blue haired SJWs running around in the streets like chickens with their heads cut off.

76919   Peter P   2016 Nov 10, 5:17pm  

turtledove says

You beat me to it! Ivanka v. Chelsea... I want Dan to be happy, too. Maybe Taylor Swift can be the 3rd party candidate.

I'm sure he prefers Scarlet Johanssen.

Ivanka the Beautiful, the exact opposite of Ivan the Terrible.

76920   Dan8267   2016 Nov 10, 9:09pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Margot Gerster, who ran into Hillary Clinton on a hike just a day after she conceded the race

Margot's lucky. I just ran into Anthony Weiner while on a hike. He took a selfie with me, which wouldn't have been bad if he had been wearing pants.

76921   Dan8267   2016 Nov 10, 9:10pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

The photo was snapped by former President Bill Clinton, who was there as well.

After Bill took the photo he said, "OK, ladies, now one kissing.".

76922   Rew   2016 Nov 10, 9:27pm  

When they write about the causes of WW3 it will read: economic hardship, due to wealth disparity, ushered in scapegoating against others and nations became gripped by nationalism. In the guise of people's champions, populist figures rose to power on the fear and nationalism swaying the people. But, because no elected leaders removed the economic imbalances, reduced monied influence in government, and applied true progressive tax systems, the economic hardships continued into depression. Nationalism and depression lead to inevitable war, as the only thing leaders had to blame, to unify their populations and maintain power, was neighboring nation states that were once their strongest global trade partners.

76923   Rew   2016 Nov 10, 10:35pm  

Nationalism, Racisim, Islamaphobia, Anti-Intellectualism : these are merely the outward symptoms/manifestations of the economic woes, the disenfranchised voice, of the rural/non-market-competitive whites.

#notmypresident is wrong. He is your president and yes, there will be massive upticks in hate crimes. Yes, he is a bigoted bafoon. I understand that your "leader" spoke out against you directly.

But that's actually not really the fight. The problem is not going away by drum circles and tolerance training. The battle isn't against hate. Hate is a runny nose, a cough, a motivator.

The problem gets addressed when Sanders version 2.0 comes and removes Citizens United, ushers in massive campaign finance reform, and actually gets money into people's hands at the expense of the 1%.That may be a candidate to unify the nation.

"Pussy grabbing", and the like, is a complete sideshow issue, though I do understand the protests right now.

Do you understand the nationalism sweeping the world?

76924   zzyzzx   2016 Nov 11, 6:10am  

Hillary Clinton can go on a hike? She can't even walk up stairs without help.

76925   zzyzzx   2016 Nov 11, 6:35am  

Now reported to be staged:

76926   Blurtman   2016 Nov 11, 7:11am  

Run!!!

76927   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Nov 11, 7:16am  

IMO, the major take-away for Democrats is that you cannot win an election by focusing on racism or sexism. If the majority just don't care about that even with a candidate like Donald, just forget about that play.
Maybe, they should have focused more on the environment. I also think that Hillary made a mistake refusing to defend what she likes about free trade. By failing to defend what she likes about the issue, she just looked like a duplicitous tool.

I wonder what the Green party is thinking today. Maybe they think Hillary would be just as bad, and also think about appointing a climate change denier to head the EPA. Maybe Stein will be comforted by Donald's lack of respect for science. They overlap a bit there.

76929   missing   2016 Nov 11, 7:33am  

turtledove says

They just wanted the next president to be a woman so bad that they were blind to everything else.

Maybe there was some of this, but imho mostly Hillary wanted Hillary to be president and the establishment complied.

76930   Strategist   2016 Nov 11, 7:46am  

YesYNot says

IMO, the major take-away for Democrats is that you cannot win an election by focusing on racism or sexism. If the majority just don't care about that even with a candidate like Donald, just forget about that play.

Maybe, they should have focused more on the environment. I also think that Hillary made a mistake refusing to defend what she likes about free trade. By failing to defend what she likes about the issue, she just looked like a duplicitous tool.

The Democrats should have focused more on terrorism, and less on locker room talk.

76932   Dan8267   2016 Nov 11, 8:41am  

turtledove says

They just wanted the next president to be a woman so bad that they were blind to everything else. The ends justified the means.

Agreed for the most part. That was a huge problem. A woman at any cost, even a woman who would set back women's rights by 40 years.

However, I would like to add that Hillary was also picked because she was the insider next in line to be president, whereas Bernie Sanders was a rebel rouser and outsider as far as the DNC was concerned. Sanders was stirring up trouble, whereas Hillary has a long history of touting the DNC's agenda and making political connections and favors. Had both candidates been men or both been women, Hillary would still have been chosen over Sanders and done everything they could to ensure Hillary was the nominee.

It's too bad that Hillary actually prevented two really good women from having any chance of becoming president. I'd love to see an Elizabeth Warren / William Black ticket. I'd also like to see Jill Stein run as a Democrat with the Democrats adopting the Green Party's platform largely or in whole.

76933   joshuatrio   2016 Nov 11, 8:47am  

The Clinton's, Obama's, Pelosi, Reid have brought a lot of disgrace to the Democrat party. They used to be a party with much more class - hell, I even voted blue several elections.

If Reid is doubling down on Trump, it's going to be a losing battle for this asshole.

76934   Tenpoundbass   2016 Nov 11, 8:50am  

These guys will all be dead within 5 years. they don't have clue on how to make money honestly and until 18 moths ago. They were sure that their Billion dollar retirement was on track.

LOL You'll see!

76935   Dan8267   2016 Nov 11, 8:54am  

turtledove says

I want Dan to be happy, too. Maybe Taylor Swift can be the 3rd party candidate.

If Taylor Swift ran for president once her fans are old enough to vote, she'd win in a landslide even as a third party candidate. Remember when California elected Arnold Schwarzenegger as governor in that recall election? Americans love celebrities, and Taylor Swift has an army of followers not seen since the Kiss Army all got hip replacements and had to retire.

And you don't want to fuck with the army of teenage girls that make up the Swift Army. Just ask Michael J. Fox.

76936   HEY YOU   2016 Nov 11, 9:04am  

Glad Trump didn't accept & denounced KKK endorsement.
He's such a tolerant conservative.

Guess making Rep/Con/Teas look like fools should be scratched off the bucket list.

76937   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 11, 9:16am  

Harry Reid has yet to experience the Weirding Module.
Trrrrrrrrrruuuuuummmmmmppp.
His name is a killing word.

76938   Tenpoundbass   2016 Nov 11, 9:17am  

I aint even mad though

76939   HEY YOU   2016 Nov 11, 9:41am  

" However, they can vote for Hillary Clinton if they choose. Even in states where that is not allowed, their vote would still be counted, they would simply pay a small fine - which we can be sure Clinton supporters will be glad to pay!"

Gosh! I can't believe Rep/Con/Teas are so dumb to not know that electors can vote how they choose.
Trump can still lose!
Dumbass HEY YOU knew this.
This must mean that Rep/Con/Teas are dumber than me.
I'm releasing a new movie "Dumber".

Will they vote against the will of the voters?
Everyone likes surprises. Hope Trump is ready for any of the possible Black Swans in the next four years.

76941   Peter P   2016 Nov 11, 9:52am  

Obamacare will go much sooner than that list suggests.

76942   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 11, 9:53am  

I agree. It will probably come before the wall and certainly before the second term.

The Wall has already been authorized many times, just not funded by the Country Club GOP.

76943   Peter P   2016 Nov 11, 9:53am  

I still think the wall is symbolic. But he will improve border security bigly.

76944   indigenous   2016 Nov 11, 9:55am  

What is the point illegal immigration is way down.

76945   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 11, 10:07am  

He's definitely said abolish Obamacare, repeal Common Core, renegotiate the Trade Deals, bring back manufacturing, and deport illegal aliens over and over and over again.

The Wall is going to end up being a mix of roads/railroads, economic zones, free trade zones, and actual physical and electronic barriers.

Relocate the maquiadoras to the Wall Area, slap a 15% payroll tax on employed Mexicans there, and whack up a portion of it with the Mexican Elite who can steal some of that money for themselves in return for their assistance. They'll be glad to do it. The rest will go towards building/maintaining the BEZ (Border Economic Zone).

76946   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 11, 10:11am  

Who would it have been if Hillary was President? William Black? Ralph Nader? hahahahahhaha

It's a rumor he's considering, not an announcement yet.

76947   Tenpoundbass   2016 Nov 11, 10:12am  

Good!

76948   Peter P   2016 Nov 11, 10:13am  

Self-deportation is the answer. It only sounded "wrong" because it came out of Romney's mouth.

76949   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 11, 10:15am  

Correction: Unsubstantiated Unnamed Source Rumor: An unnamed Trump Adviser recommends Dimon for the post.
http://fortune.com/2016/11/11/donald-trump-jamie-dimon-treasury-secretary/

76950   Peter P   2016 Nov 11, 10:16am  

This election is mostly about Red Pill vs. Blue Pill. Most people don't really care about policy DETAILS.

Most likely, we are screwed anyway.

76951   Peter P   2016 Nov 11, 10:19am  

The bankers will always be the owner.

76952   Ceffer   2016 Nov 11, 10:22am  

I'm glad to hear that Trumpligula was always in the pocket of the Shadow Government, just as the Founding Fathers intended.

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