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78238   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Dec 17, 4:55pm  

joeyjojojunior says

Yes, that's absolutely evidence. You can claim bias if you want, but you are sounding more and more like Gary as this campaign season has turned into election season has turned into an inauguration.

Nothing in your Crowd Strike Private Contractor email has any evidence. "Oh, it has behavioral similarities to Russian Stuff."
Guess what? I bet it has behavioral similarities to Nigerian Criminals and German Hacktivist tactics as well.

Anybody remember the North Korean Hack of Sony that wasn't?

But so many sources in the government and private mil/intel contractors were so damn sure, spreading rumors left and right, repeated without skepticism by reporters.

78239   joeyjojojunior   2016 Dec 17, 4:57pm  

"Nothing in your Crowd Strike Private Contractor email has any evidence. "Oh, it has behavioral similarities to Russian Stuff."
Guess what? I bet it has behavioral similarities to Nigerian Criminals and German Hacktivist tactics as well."

Again--continuing to deny even the most basic and obvious facts just makes you look like an idiot.

You'd be better off saying, their evidence is weak, or their evidence is all circumstantial. By saying there is no evidence, when there clearly IS evidence, you look like you're hiding something or flailing.

The crowdstrike report was from June, by the way, so it's not like it was written in response to Clinton losing.

78240   Shaman   2016 Dec 17, 5:03pm  

Joey you're continuing in the pattern of some other shills who've trolled this board. Why don't you run a search on "Hydrocabron" and notice when he stopped posting.

78241   zzyzzx   2016 Dec 17, 5:05pm  

By acknowledging Podesta's emails were "hacked," the Democrats were admitting they were authentic.

78242   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Dec 17, 5:05pm  


A security company in the U.S. has provided further evidence that last year's devastating hacking attack on Sony Pictures Entertainment was carried out by a group with ties to North Korea.

The FBI has already named North Korea as the source of the attack, but some security experts have been skeptical, in part because the FBI didn't disclose all the details of its investigation.

Security firm CrowdStrike is among those who believe North Korea was the culprit, and on Tuesday it presented another piece of evidence to support that claim.

CrowdStrike said it found similarities between the malware used against Sony and a piece of destructive code deployed in 2013 by a group it calls Silent Chollima, which has already been linked to several attacks on South Korea and the U.S.

Parts of the code used in each attack are almost identical in their structure and functionality, CrowdStrike CTO Dmitri Alperovitch said during a webcast Tuesday in which he described how the Sony attack was carried out. (A replay will be available here.)

What's more, he said, the malware used in both attacks contains the same typographical error in the same place, spelling "security" as "secruity."

B-B-But, MUH SIMILARITIES!!! BEHAVIORAL "EVIDENCE"!!!


What's more, he said, the malware used in both attacks contains the same typographical error in the same place, spelling "security" as "secruity."

CrowdStrike had already identified similarities between attacks by Silent Chollima and the one on Sony, including the use of destructive "wiper" malware and the way that code was deployed. But it hadn't described the similarities in the code itself.


Cozy Bear, Fluffy Bear, whatever it is. Lookit the similarities!

why, it looks like it was written on a Cyrillic Keyboard, Amirite?

http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/566634/what-typo-more-evidence-tying-north-korea-sony-hack/

It's pretty widely believed now it was disgrunted Sony Employees.

78243   zzyzzx   2016 Dec 17, 5:15pm  

http://www.conservativedailynews.com/2016/11/wikileaks-reveals-clinton-poll-oversampling-scheme/

This scheme of the Clinton campaign to propagandize the polling data just before Election Day, quite successful until it was exposed, is exactly what Donald Trump and his surrogates are talking about when they make the argument that “the system is rigged.”

A perfect example of one of the more obvious sampling biases comes in the form of a recent ABC/Washington Post poll that gave Hillary Clinton a 12-point lead nationally over Donald Trump. As with recent polls from Reuters and ABC News, this ABC/Post poll included a 9-point sampling bias toward registered Democrats.

This was something that they didn’t even try to hide. In publishing its methodology ABC News stated that it sampled 874 likely voters and that the poll had a margin of error or 3.5 points. They openly admitted that the, “Partisan divisions are 36-27-31 percent: Democrats – Republicans – Independents.” While Democrats may have a very slight voter registration advantage, it is nowhere near the 9 points used in this poll.

78244   zzyzzx   2016 Dec 17, 5:51pm  

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

though the population of both states (esp. Kentucky) served in the Union Army in larger numbers.

I would want the count in Maryland for comparison (I do not have this handy). IIRC roughly 1/3 joined the Confederate Army (mostly serving in the Army of Northern Virginia), and of the ones who joined the Union Army, a lot of them only did so with the promise that they not leave the state (meaning in forts around DC, and guarding rail road bridges and prisoner of war camps). I would not be surprised if in Maryland it was 1/3 fighting for the Confederate Army, 1/3 fighting for the Union Army, and 1/3 in the Union Army, but somewhere in Maryland doing no fighting unless attacked (which may have only happened in a major way at Monocacy)

Fun Fact:
At the Battle of Front Royal on May 23, 1862 the Union Army's 1st Maryland infantry fought the Confederate Army's 1st Maryland infantry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Front_Royal
After the battle, the victorious First Maryland CSA took charge of prisoners from the beaten Union First Maryland regiment.

78245   zzyzzx   2016 Dec 17, 5:53pm  

jazz music says

Obviously because it's not like Obama said or did something related to dividing

Have you been deaf and blind for the last 8 years?

After 8 years Michelle Obama still feels Obama's greatest contribution is "giving us hope." Hope without results is the cruelest lie of all.

78246   Shaman   2016 Dec 17, 5:59pm  

I've come to see the affection Southerners hold for Confederate paraphernalia as a testament to States rights and the ability of common Americans to object to Federal overbearance. While most remember the Civil War as "the war to free the slaves," a closer look at history reveals it to be about the tyranny of the majority Northern populous states over the less populated South. In the North, they were ushering in wave after wave of immigrants, registering them to vote, and using the population bully power to override anything the Southern states wanted to do.

So I don't see a monument to this uniquely American struggle as "racist." I see it as a big fat "Don't tread on me" warning to an increasingly intrusive Federal government. Bush and Obama have definitely gone in the direction of Federal overreach, and I see this sort of monument as a reaction to that.

78247   zzyzzx   2016 Dec 17, 6:06pm  

jazz music says

Why, oh why, does this continue to be an issue? John Savage, author of the Politico piece, puts forth one theory:

You need to take these things for what they (generally speaking) have become these days, which is tourist traps. I was in PA over the summer and did a tourist train ride from New Freedom to Hanover Junction PA. I was only there for the train ride itself, which was nice. It had a stop in the middle at a Civil War site in PA. I didn't even know that this place existed, but it was a half an hour stop at a rail road junction in York County (Hanover Junction) complete with all the usual stuff one sees at all the other Civil War sites, in this case it was a skirmish between Confederate Cavalry and the Union militia guarding the rail road junction with it's telegraph. It was something to do while the rail road did what it needed to do to turn the train around, and sell sno-cones and use the rest rooms. Interesting, but not of any real military significance.

78248   Ceffer   2016 Dec 17, 6:11pm  

They call it "ChawHenge".

The Rednecks go there to celebrate the solstice and to spit.

78249   HEY YOU   2016 Dec 17, 6:14pm  

George Carlin:
"You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shitty jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this fucking place! It's a big club, and you ain’t in it! You, and I, are not in the big club."

78250   Ceffer   2016 Dec 17, 6:16pm  

No more blue, withered, diapered asses in nursing homes and blue hair. Just good fertilizer.

Plastic surgeons and manufacturers of Hoverounds just aren't a big enough voting bloc to worry about.

78251   Ceffer   2016 Dec 17, 6:18pm  

I never realized illegal immigrants had such nice tits.

78252   HEY YOU   2016 Dec 17, 6:19pm  

APO,
Sorry you won't be able to afford belt-fed ammo in your old age!
How much have you paid in & will never see any of it,if you are a younger man?
Same question to Rep/Con/Tea/Neo-Nazis.

78253   HEY YOU   2016 Dec 17, 6:41pm  

PCGyver says

I bet most of them are in Texas

Well of course,Texass & their bush pres. can't protect Lone Star citizens.
FAILURE is in the Republican DNA.

We must stop all immigration! Some Scottish SLUT comes here and has an anchor baby.
Bitch married a NAZI.

Cowardice runs in the family.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/trump-grandfather-germany-friedrich/

78254   zzyzzx   2016 Dec 17, 6:52pm  

rpanic01 says

I bet the rate with anchor babies is twice as much at the very least and we are stuck with them.

78255   mell   2016 Dec 17, 7:03pm  

Tim Aurora says

mell says

America, Europe and Russia great again!

So you a a "white supremacist".

It's difficult to measure whether some races are superior to others (there are many different metrics), and when it has been attempted, results were immediately embargoed (for example wrt intelligence only, some studies found whites smarter than blacks, asians smarter than whites and vice versa, and Jews smarter than everybody, with the Ashkenazi Jewish on top). So I'm somewhat agnostic towards that question,. When it comes to history and technological, scientific and human rights progress, the score card is pretty clear. We would not be close to where we are today without the contributions of Caucasians. They have all the right to be proud of their culture and history.

78256   mell   2016 Dec 17, 7:28pm  

Tim Aurora says

So do the Chinese Hans, the Japanese, the Indians and even the Arabs. Most of the Caucasian advancements have come in the Renaissance period. Before that there was a real dark period for Caucasians where Islam was prominent. In fact till 1700's China and India had more than 50% of the world GDP

https://infogr.am/Share-of-world-GDP-throughout-history

Are you ready for those economics to regain their former glory

Sure most Caucasian contributions are more recent, but the rate of progress accelerated dramatically recently as well. And they are the leaders in human rights. Nowhere else in the world is a foreigner/immigrant treated better than in Europe or the US. Even Russia has been the 2nd largest immigration haven, so can't be that bad. Why would one want this golden era to end by putting down those who created it?

78257   Blurtman   2016 Dec 17, 11:23pm  

Bt what it means to me is more important that what it means to you because I can play the victim card.

78258   zzyzzx   2016 Dec 18, 5:38am  

jazz music says

Another ironic question by you since I already commented for you a list of 400 things Obama accomplished on behalf of the electorate.

https://patrick.net/?p=1299992&c=1355288#comment-1355288

Thanks for the reminder to post a lengthy list of Obama's failures.

78259   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Dec 18, 7:52am  

mell says

Why would one want this golden era to end by putting down those who created it?

White People are great. And here's a fact: Jews were NOT particularly noted for their intelligence until the Renaissance Era. In fact in the Roman and Seleucid era they were thought to be mostly dumb, rural, religious fanatic hicks.

I don't celebrate Hannukah because I won't celebrate Jewish Macabee Hicks who violently rejected Greek Culture. I prefer the ones who sent their kids to the Selucid's Gymnasium to learn Philosophy.

What's funny is that Israel is all based on Western Culture. If you took out all the Jews and replaced them with generic Christian Europeans or Europeanized Indians or Chinese, everyday life would function basically the same aside from some items on the menu and swapping a day off.

78260   Tenpoundbass   2016 Dec 18, 7:55am  

My Brother was defending her at a family dinner in a restarunt last night. I said that Bitch is so Stupid she lost a Rigged election.
The whole place applauded. His Cuban wife agreed, my brother sulked.

78261   Blurtman   2016 Dec 18, 8:06am  

jazz music says

like NYT compares in any way to BS blogs

Wiki is not a blog. I can understand moving the goalposts when you are drowning in faulty logic your poor argument, but you still lost the game.

78262   joeyjojojunior   2016 Dec 18, 8:45am  

Yes, of course, anyone who shares the truth that 17 intelligence agencies in the US, all private security companies, Congress, POTUS all agree it was Russia who hacked the DNC, the RNC, Clinton, some Congressional candidates, et. al must be a DNC stooge.

Hell, even Trump pretty much admits it was Russian at this point. You guys are off on an island of your own now.

78263   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Dec 18, 9:46am  

jazz music says

NYT has in many occasions published corrected stories when error was reported.

In tiny print on the bottom of the last page of the news section, when the original faulty article ran on the front page with big headlines.

The WaPo would have to run a special edition to cover all the fake news they've published this year. Propornot was pathetic, and the wishy-washy editor's note at the bottom of the article claiming they don't stand for the veracity of an article that praises the unnamed individuals within the apparently weeks-old organization as "Experts", highly qualified, patriots, etc. If they didn't stand for it's veracity, why did they let the original article include Timberg's flowery qualifiers?

78264   joshuatrio   2016 Dec 18, 11:18am  

Tenpoundbass says

My Brother was defending her at a family dinner in a restarunt last night. I said that Bitch is so Stupid she lost a Rigged election.

The whole place applauded. His Cuban wife agreed, my brother sulked.

Wish you filmed that moment.

78266   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Dec 18, 12:22pm  

The OP video was uploaded two weeks before the election, October 26, 2016.

Sore Loser!!! hahahahaha

78267   Ceffer   2016 Dec 18, 12:48pm  

I would rather shout SIEG! ORANGE!

78268   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Dec 18, 12:54pm  

PCGyver says

Wait let me get this straight, you're saying that CrowdStrike looked at the Sony hacking evidence and came up with what is now believed to be the wrong OPINION that the hack was North Korea.

Yup. Many of the private contractors largely run by ex-Intel people dependent on Government Funding like Crowd Stike immediately jumped on the "North Korea done did it" bandwagon. IT experts outside of the MIC field with non-gov clients exercising professional responsibility said it could have been anybody, and pointed at disgruntled ex-employee(s) rather than NK as the most likely source, because the focus on the leaks was discrediting top-level Sony bosses.

78269   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Dec 18, 12:59pm  

Anybody remember when James Clapper lied to Senator Wyden's face that the NSA wasn't spying on everybody's emails?

Gee, I wonder who tried to get the "Snowden is a Sino-Russian Stooge" meme going with "anonymous intel officials say" BS out to the WaPo and NYT?

PS Not the only time Clapper lied Publicly about the NSA taking everybody's emails.

The reason Obama got away with not doing anything substantial about it is because of Press Bias.

78270   joeyjojojunior   2016 Dec 18, 12:59pm  

PCGyver says

If you really were interested in the truth you would be more concerned about the truth in the emails than the truth to who got them

Really? You are not concerned that a foreign State illegally obtained and disseminated private correspondence for the express purpose of altering a US Presidential election?:

I imagine the shoe would be on the other foot if Germany had released private Trump emails detailing his ties to the Russian mob.

78271   joeyjojojunior   2016 Dec 18, 1:00pm  

PCGyver says

@jokeyjojo

Can you please share the truth about how Iraq has WMD's?

I think George W. put it best.

"Fool me once shame on me, oh wait a minute how does it go?"

Great--so I assume you are all for getting rid of all US intelligence services. They fooled you once, after all.

78272   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Dec 18, 1:01pm  

joeyjojojunior says

Really? You are not concerned that a foreign State illegally obtained and disseminated private correspondence for the express purpose of altering a US Presidential election?:

Private correspondence = Not Government Correspondence

The real question is why Hillary had ANY classified info on her private, unauthorized server.

Had Billy Bob, GS-5 at State, had ANY classified info on a private, unauthorized server "for his convenience", he'd be well into his prison term.

78273   joeyjojojunior   2016 Dec 18, 1:02pm  

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Private correspondence = Not Government Correspondence

And illegal = not legal. What's your point?

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

The real question is why Hillary had ANY classified info on her private, unauthorized server.

Who is talking about anything classified?? We're talking about her private strategy emails. Those are the ones that Russia released.

And the other questions is why didn't they release the RNC emails that they also hacked?? Any ideas?

78274   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Dec 18, 1:10pm  

joeyjojojunior says

Who is talking about anything classified?? We're talking about her private strategy emails. Those are the ones that Russia released.

Who wrote them? Also, where is your evidence* about the hacking?

John Podesta clicked a phishing email like a dumbass. Anybody stupider than a reasonably well-versed lay computer user shouldn't have high office in any Administration.

I'm glad we know that Hillary's speeches to Goldman Sachs, Itau, and other big money banks that gave her huge amounts of cash, was the asskissing everybody suspected. I say give Wikileaks or the FSB or the German Green Politicians the Pulitzer.

Isn't nice to know that two liars who conspired to rig the Democratic Primary against Bernie while saynig they were unbiased were discovered and punished?

I'm also happy to know the role Michael Froman of Citigroup played in picking Obama's cabinet.

* Evidence != anonymous intel officials or MIC Partner Companies "behavioral analysis".

78275   joeyjojojunior   2016 Dec 18, 1:13pm  

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Who wrote them?

Uh, lots of different people.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Also, where is your evidence* about the hacking?

lol--you're hilarious.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

I'm glad we know that Hillary's speeches to Goldman Sachs was the asskissing everybody suspected

Is that one of the classified ones?

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Isn't nice to know that two liars who conspired to rig the Democratic Primary against Bernie while saynig they were unbiased were discovered and punished?

That must be one of the classified ones, right?

78276   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Dec 18, 1:15pm  

joeyjojojunior says

lol--you're hilarious.

Keep dodging! Ain't got nothin' !

joeyjojojunior says

Is that one of the classified ones?

It was one of the ones she said she'd "Think about" releasing. I'm glad somebody took her ultimate decision (ie "Never! You Peons!") out of her hands.

joeyjojojunior says

That must be one of the classified ones, right?

Who cares? The classified ones should land her in prison. Like the Navy enlistedman, one year for each one, with the kindness of the Judge having the sentences run concurrently. Otherwise we don't have the rule of law, but the rule of wealthy and connected powerful individuals getting away scot free.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/30/us/politics/22-clinton-emails-deemed-too-classified-to-be-made-public.html?_r=0
22 years, one count for each. But I'm a nice guy, let's have them run concurrently as her health isn't that great.

78277   joeyjojojunior   2016 Dec 18, 2:08pm  

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Keep dodging! Ain't got nothin' !

Nope, you and I both know I got something. You are just covering your ears and yelling LA-LA-LA--LA, hoping that if you don't hear it, it isn't true.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Who cares? The classified ones should land her in prison. Like the Navy enlistedman, one year for each one, with the kindness of the Judge having the sentences run concurrently. Otherwise we don't have the rule of law, but the rule of wealthy and connected powerful individuals getting away scot free.

Colin Powell too?

PCGyver says

She lost me when she said this.

That's fine. I'm not saying you should have voted for her. Vote for whoever you want. Just don't come on here lying and trying to deny facts.

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