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joeyjojojunior says

Great point. So, where was the outrage from you and bass and Ironman when CNN reported on Sheriff Arpaio or Trump's claims about Obama's birth certificate?

Never a birther, thanks!

Read my posts over the past few years - I'm not a party loyalist and never have been.

"CNN did reference the document and the Buzzfeed story. Saying it was "Unverified" was not enough - it shouldn't have been reported in the first place"

Nope. CNN reported that intelligence agencies briefing included discussion about Trump potentially being compromised. In light of previous stories about Trump's ties to Russia, that certainly seems newsworthy.

"Never a birther, thanks! Read my posts over the past few years - I'm not a party loyalist and never have been."

OK--please point to the posts where you call such stories "fake" news and are outraged like now.

joeyjojojunior says

OK--please point to the ones where you call such stories "fake" news and are outraged like now.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN: Remember, it is illegal to possess these stolen documents. It is different from the media. So everything you learn about this, you are learning from us.

1. Documents not stolen by Wikileaks, they were LEAKED to Wikileaks
2. It's not illegal for CNN but not "ordinary people" to read leaked documents obtained from the internet.

joeyjojojunior says

Nope. CNN reported that intelligence agencies briefing included discussion about Trump potentially being compromised. In light of previous stories about Trump's ties to Russia, that certainly seems newsworthy.

Intel Officials (illegally) leaking the information around the PDB to the Press is news. But that's not what's at issue.

The mention of a dodgy Dossier Word Document is the issue.

Trump is a lying sac of propaganda. Most of the country knows this. Hopefully the rest aren't irreversibly lobotomized at this point.

Tim Aurora says

Ah, so now you show your true colors. Putin is fighting against us in Syria, Ukraine and hacking our election and now he is your best friend. Well said Russian.

If Putin is fighting ISIS in Syria in support of their legitimate secular citizen-supported government, and you say that's fighting against "us," that means you consider yourself allied with ISIS! Talk about showing your islamofascist true black colors! You, sir, claim to be on the side of murderers, rapists, and genocide on a large scale! That's utterly despicable, @Tim Aurora! You suck! And anyone who agrees with you also sucks! We Americans don't cotton to genocidal Muslims like you!

"1. Documents not stolen by Wikileaks, they were LEAKED to Wikileaks
2. It's not illegal for CNN but not "ordinary people" to read leaked documents obtained from the internet."

Uh, wtf are you talking about? I'm asking when you posted outrage at the fake news stories circulating about Obama's birth certificate

"Intel Officials (illegally) leaking the information around the PDB to the Press is news. But that's not what's at issue. The mention of a dodgy Dossier Word Document is the issue."

OK--here's the article. Please detail what is "fake"

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html

Some examples of Media Fake News:

Dan Rather and the story of the "Word Document" created on the personal computer of a disgruntled ex-Reserve Officer.

Jayson Blair writing shit out of whole cloth at the NYT, never attending the events he was supposed to report on.

Rolling Stone Rape Story

It's Illegal to Read Wikileaks - only CNN can.

Hands Up, Don't Shoot - NYT, MSNBC lied.

PropOrNot Story that celebrated unknown, unprovenced, unidentified operatives at a brand new Neocon Blacklist Site as "Experts" - WaPo

Repeating SPLC Claims that "Race Mixer" (wife=Persian), avowed non-White Supremacist and Jew Mike Cernovich as a White Supremacist. - Esquire, Atlantic

Ironman says

“I expressed my profound dismay at the leaks that have been appearing in the press, and we both agreed that they are extremely corrosive and damaging to our national security,” Clapper said.

Judging by all the urine jokes flying around, you still have to prove the report is false.

Rumors are fun, aren't they?

Absent proof that the "dossier" is a fabrication, your best strategy is not to talk about it.
Many people think there is no smoke without fire.

That's only the times they are caught.

I wonder how many "high level officials speaking anonymously" are just the reporter farting around.

Once upon a time, Editors would disallow Anonymous Sources unless there was other supporting evidence, the source was told to the editor and deemed reliable, and the story was of incredible importance.

Once again you've proven you don't even know what fake news is. And obviously cannot show what is fake about the CNN story.

joeyjojojunior says

Once again you've proven you don't even know what fake news is. And obviously cannot show what is fake about the CNN story.

Fake News is shit that didn't happen, based on pitiful 'evidence' that would be rejected in nearly any other case except that which pushes an Oligarch's narrative.

"Fake News is shit that didn't happen, based on pitiful 'evidence' that would be rejected in nearly any other case except that which pushes an Oligarch's narrative"

Was Trump an oligarch then when he was pushing the Obama birther story? Or Sheriff Arpaio? Is he an ogligarch?

Those got a lot of press.

Still waiting for you to identify anything CNN wrote that could even remotely be considered "fake" news

You want me to play this game with Obama quotes?

joeyjojojunior says

Could you point me to where Clapper says it's false and fictitious?

He can't. Ironman is guilty here of fake news.

Tenpoundbass says

I said that two days ago when the lie broke, no Intelligence community would write a Gossip dossier based on hearsay and accusations.

They probably trusted the spy from the UK who put the report together. It has not been proven not to be true, Einstein. It is exactly what was done to Clinton. Live with it until it is proven false.

This article from last January was very prescient:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533

It predicted that Trump's popularity would grow and that he would have some success with Dems and Independents.

It's a silly notion. Most politicians refuse to answer some questions, or ignore the question on go on some unrelated tangent, or say some something so vague as to be meaningless. This is what politicians do.
In a room full of journalists he gets to shut down one that is screaming and rude to answer others.
Nothing dictatorial about that.

So you're claiming you're not an ISIS supporter, you just don't know what you're talking about? Ignorance? Blind belief in mass media? Just shut up until you've done some research. Until then I've got one word for you: "Ba-aa-aa!"

So now we're going with the Dictator angle Oye vey!!!

Why can't you braid dead simpleton motherfuckers come up with all of these verbal assaults at once.
You know it seems so petty and cheapish to piece mail it one at a time as the previous ploy fails.
So you come up with another one. Anyone that has ever seen a ten year old knows Liberals politics flawlessly and can predict your next move.
I thought you bastards were Smart?

Tim Aurora says

if the hacking by our ardent enemy does not make you sick to the stomach, you are not American

Hacking is a fact of modern life. Tons of private information is stolen to criminals every day.
Or emails can get subpoenaed in a lawsuit and become public, or they can be leaked.
Politicians just have to adjust to the fact that emails are not 100% secured.

Especially if you run your own server.

What was the questions perhaps they were stupid questions.
Obama surly didn't answer what he thought were Stupid questions. Remember Joe the Plumber? The MSM ripped him apart.

More over Obama didn't give many press conferences and only 3 SOTU addresses after it looked like Trump was showing the world what an American leader looked like.

Trump was giving SOTU addresses every day from the Primary trail.

Merely sticking the word "Unverifiable" in a Fake Ass News Story, then deflecting blame by protesting you're only reporting on Buzzfeed's reporting of the story, doesn't cut it.

Heraclitusstudent says

It's a silly notion. Most politicians refuse to answer some questions, or ignore the question on go on some unrelated tangent, or say some something so vague as to be meaningless. This is what politicians do.

In a room full of journalists he gets to shut down one that is screaming and rude to answer others.

Nothing dictatorial about that.

Hillary would just hand the journalists the questions she want's asked in advance instead.

zzyzzx says

Hillary would just hand the journalists the questions she want's asked in advance instead.

And have a cuter young woman actor ask the question as it was spontaneous, as we have seen in the campaign.

They were. People were testifying all over Stern on 9/11 and the day after.

Remember that Stern was the #1 talk program by far in the NYC metro area. It's pretty rare for 1010 WINS or Channel 11 WPIX to take viewer calls.

And when was the last time Hillary held a press conference?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/31/hillary-clinton-yet-to-hold-single-press-conferenc/
Hint: She is famous for not having them lately.

"Merely sticking the word "Unverifiable" in a Fake Ass News Story, then deflecting blame by protesting you're only reporting on Buzzfeed's reporting of the story, doesn't cut it."

That's not what they did. They reported on a very newsworthy story that intelligence officials were briefing Trump about Russia potentially have compromising information on him. You don't think that's news??

Still waiting on TLL Lips to point out specifically where CNN reported anything "fake" news.

T L Lipsovich says

CNN did reference the document and the Buzzfeed story. Saying it was "Unverified" was not enough - it shouldn't have been reported in the first place.

IRAQ HAS WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION!

Stupid Republicans still looking for evidence.
Why did/do YOU IGNORANT ASS rEPUBLICANS allow YOUR RIGHT WING
LYING CONSERVATIVE COMMENTARY MEDIA to ever speak or print the words,
IRAQ HAS WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION?
BECAUSE you're STUPID & LOVERS OF LIES!
Fake news= Rep/Con Political RIGHT WING Partisan outlets.

The only good thing to come out of Iraq is DEAD & INJURED FOR LIFE Republicans/Conservatives.
COLLATERAL DAMAGE for IGNORANCE in voting.
Call you Rightwing representatives,they will make sure the VA will take care of you medical problems
IMMEDIATELY.

I don't give a Damn about DEMOCRATS. Because STUPID!
ASSHOLE TRUMPLICANS are on the hook in a few days.
You will experience SHOCK & AWE!

Liberals live in a bubble.
They have no concept of the damage that the policies they parrot have on the average American.

Will CNN get pissed off enough to do serious investigative journalism
into every breath that trump ever took?

I doubt it,too.

joeyjojojunior says

very newsworthy story that intelligence officials were briefing Trump

I'm talking about the BS 35-page word document CNN reported on.

I love seeing Democrats defend the powerful interests;

1. Of the War-Lobby
2. Of the Massive Surveillance State Obama vowed to fix but never did
3. Of the Oligarch Concentrated Press pushing their angle, esp. Re: Russian "Danger"
4. With Neocons as Allies.

"I'm talking about the BS 35-page word document CNN reported on"

You mean the one they didn't report on? Please show me the report you are referencing.