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80010   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jan 24, 8:41am  

again, that's not a "lie". it all depends on what you consider to be "dramatic expansion"

No, it's a lie. There is basically no expansion at all since 2009 even according to your graph. There is no definition under which zero is considered a "dramatic expansion"

80011   anonymous   2017 Jan 24, 8:44am  

joeyjojojunior says

No, he purposely used the wrong numbers. We call that lying.

that's completely unprovable - you have no idea if spicer was purposely using wrong numbers.

80012   anonymous   2017 Jan 24, 8:45am  

joeyjojojunior says

No, it's a lie. There is basically no expansion at all since 2009 even according to your graph. There is no definition under which zero is considered a "dramatic expansion"

now that's a lie - there is clearly an expansion of the federal workforce from the bush years under obama.

80013   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jan 24, 8:47am  

"now that's a lie - there is clearly an expansion of the federal workforce from the bush years under obama."

He said "in recent years". He didn't say "under Obama"

80014   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jan 24, 8:48am  

"that's completely unprovable - you have no idea if spicer was purposely using wrong numbers."

Well, considering he told 4 other whoppers that same day, he's either the biggest idiot ever to be Press Secretary or he did it on purpose. I'm pretty sure it was on purpose.

80015   HEY YOU   2017 Jan 24, 9:31am  

This is the difference between liberals & stupid conservatives.
Liberals know when they are wrong.
Conservatives know nothing.

80016   HEY YOU   2017 Jan 24, 9:39am  

Gallup polls are my only source of concrete facts.

80017   justme   2017 Jan 24, 9:44am  

Because the Republicans always owned the propaganda presses.

80018   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jan 24, 9:51am  

"Yeah Tatty, it's very telling that you can't see yourself in the mirror."

What--do you think I'm a vampire?

80019   HEY YOU   2017 Jan 24, 10:37am  

We're Republicans! FUCK ORIGINALITY!
CONSERVE(ative) YOUR BRAIN !

80020   HEY YOU   2017 Jan 24, 10:46am  

If one hasn't read the complete transcript,they don't know what they are talking about.
Those that have,please post the transcript.

80021   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Jan 24, 10:48am  

I believe mcqueef would be more succinct. Yes. He wanted to follow in Melania's footsteps. If asked about it, he will say the press is lying.

80022   bob2356   2017 Jan 24, 10:58am  

HEY YOU says

If one hasn't read the complete transcript,they don't know what they are talking about.

Those that have,please post the transcript.

It was posted months ago. https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:YReOr_eTktcJ:https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements/trans-pacific-partnership/tpp-full-text+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

80023   justme   2017 Jan 24, 11:07am  

I'm not sure you can "plagiarize" a cake, not unless the 2nd maker claims that this was an original design. Imitate, yes, plagiarize, no.

I feel hungry. I'm going to plagiarize myself a Bologna sandwich.

80024   Ceffer   2017 Jan 24, 12:36pm  

Obama's cake looks like Martin Luther King. Trump's cake looks like Winston Churchill. Anybody can see that.

80025   RWSGFY   2017 Jan 24, 12:41pm  

Dupe

80026   RC2006   2017 Jan 24, 12:56pm  

That's what happens when you let the neighboring country flood a state with their poor for decades.

California also has the highest poverty rate in the US way to go liberals.
http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/dan-walters/article101657302.html

80027   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Jan 24, 1:00pm  

I'll say it again:
Calexit is a Russian attempt to divide and weaken the US.
https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2016/12/13/from-his-home-in-russia-calexit-leader-plots-california-secession/

I'll say it again: Zero Hedge is Russian propaganda.

They don't care about Trump, or California. They just want to divide. And it works well with morons on both sides.

80028   Peter P   2017 Jan 24, 2:10pm  

I just hope that Trump can save California from the communists.

80029   Rew   2017 Jan 24, 2:26pm  

joeyjojojunior says

I'm pretty sure it was on purpose.

You would be correct if you mean Spicer chose the most favorable numbers he could, for his administration. Trump is putting up a number somewhere between 250 and 500K, by estimates, for the crowd size. What's funny is how irate he, Trump, Kelly Ann, are becoming at being fact checked and called out on their BS. You see this very, "You are all against us" sort of tone taking shape. Whiners. I got news for them. It's going to get worse!

Historically in context that 250-500K looks like this:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/jan/20/inaugural-crowd-sizes-ranked/

It's pretty clear from multiple sources, if we are measuring crowds: the inauguration physical crowd was small comparatively, and the Women's March was undoubtably the largest political march in the history of the USA. There is no wiggle, argument, or blog post which can "alternative fact" its way out of that.

There is little evidence to show "the media" and credible sources are misrepresenting the crowd sizes. Can the same be said for Spicer and Trump's representations? I don't think so.

As for TV viewership of the inauguration: lower as well, for Trump, according to Neilsen, when compared to Obama and others.

Finally, it rained throughout the time Trump talked, unlike his representation of a Godly cloud parting just during his speech. (One more : the CIA speech, Trump stocked the crowd with his administration cheering section, and it was standing only. There was no standing-O. He also gave it in-front of the wall of fallen heroes. That's some low class grandstanding.)

The Trump administration is off to a 'theatrical' start. Was there any doubt it would be any other way?

80030   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Jan 24, 2:56pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Moochelle's speech.

Exactly. And trump is a secret masochist. He dresses in assless chaps and Melania cracks the whip.

80032   anonymous   2017 Jan 24, 3:03pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

YesYNot says

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Moochelle's speech.

Exactly. And trump is a secret masochist. He dresses in assless chaps and Melania cracks the whip.

WOW.

JUST WOW.

Is that why he talks funny?

Judging by his facial expressions, he's always wearing some sort of pulsating butt plug, controlled remotely

80033   MMR   2017 Jan 24, 3:04pm  

rpanic01 says

That's what happens when you let the neighboring country flood a state with their poor for decades.

California also has the highest poverty rate in the US way to go liberals.

Putin caused that too

80035   indc   2017 Jan 24, 3:18pm  

Rew says

YEAH! It should just say the good stuff for you and the good stuff for me, and that's it. It doesn't have to be so complex because the world isn't, nor are relationships. It's not like anyone would need to try and define anything in for general eventualities, or put things in firm legal terms with little room for interpretation.

We can just have a gentleMANs agreement on things. No pussies.

You trust me right? :)

If someone asks you your relationship status and your reply is "it's complicated" that means you are getting screwed without any benefits. Countries should have simpler relationships. If you want to control every aspect of your partners you will have divorce and hatred. Are you willing to go to war and kill people just because others did not meet some requirement in the treaty. Like I said we still have WTO framework to use when a difference arise. If you "need" a prenup then you will definitely use it.

80037   MAGA   2017 Jan 24, 4:06pm  

How many are illegal?

80038   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Jan 24, 4:09pm  

jvolstad says

How many are illegal?

When California belonged to Mexico, the US sent a lot of illegal immigrants to CA.
Next thing you knew, they took over.

80039   fdhfoiehfeoi   2017 Jan 24, 4:57pm  

I've always been in favor of secession. No more IRS, DEA, FBI, or any of the other three letter asshole agencies. No more federal funding to support our massive welfare state(goodbye welfare babies). No more federal schools, no more standardized testing.

We have wine, weed, tons of farmland, craft beer, silicon valley, porn, movies, and TV. We'll be debt free overnight, self sufficient in years, and charge everyone UP THE ASS for our exports. Wanna get high, drunk, or beat one out? Not without a 75% SURCHARGE!!!

80040   Ceffer   2017 Jan 24, 5:10pm  

California needs to conquer Western Canada first, then secede. Water Forever!

80041   freespeechforever   2017 Jan 24, 5:11pm  

Not only did Trump's Inaugural Committee insist on "an exact duplicate" of Obama's last Inaugural cake, but the cheap fucks only had one layer as real cake, specifying the rest as styrofoam - FAKE! JUST LIKE TRUMP & EVERYTHING TRUMPIGULA!!!

80042   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Jan 24, 5:24pm  

NuttBoxer says

I've always been in favor of secession. No more IRS, DEA, FBI, or any of the other three letter asshole agencies. No more federal funding to support our massive welfare state(goodbye welfare babies). No more federal schools, no more standardized testing.

Are you kidding? All this would be recreated in an instant by the bureaucrats in Sacramento. With new found depth in zeal and assholeness.
And yeah I'm sure Washington would give you your share of the debt - only fair.

80043   Ceffer   2017 Jan 24, 5:44pm  

How come naked gerbils didn't jump out of the cake?

80044   Ceffer   2017 Jan 24, 5:46pm  

What California always wanted to be: a pseudo liberal third world country with an economic and political aristocracy.

80045   indigenous   2017 Jan 24, 6:17pm  

Secession is a state's right.

80046   indigenous   2017 Jan 24, 6:25pm  

Suck it mutts

80048   Dan8267   2017 Jan 24, 6:29pm  

Oh shit, just clicked on the article. He did.

80049   Dan8267   2017 Jan 24, 6:32pm  

How the hell do you cut a cake like this. It looks like it's going to fall over.

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