patrick.net

blaming Trump for Russian's hacking is the height of stupidity.

it's not Trump's fault you democrats had a dumb nigger and a stupid bitch for leadership and no one respected them.

Read what?

Sadly, I think most readers will just continue to chase their tail in finding the truth. The truth is a slippery wet fish you will never get your hands on.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Trumpligula calls it "the best sex I ever had"

Of course. It's sex with the person he loves the most.

He's only insane if you don't follow his logic, which is, well, insane.

Strategist says

The number I am looking at is $1 million turned into $10 billion. A remarkable achievement by any standard.

So you are saying he inherited nothing? Want to back that up with something. Anything?

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Poll: Without Daddy's Money, Effeminate Trust-Fund Twit Donald Trump Would Be:

Sounds like a scientific poll; in other news, if my grandmother had a dick, she'd be my grandfather

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

EPORT: Psychiatrists Pretend There is Any Doubt That Kremlin Chew Toy TRUMPLIGULA! Is a Face-Biting, Tongue-Lolling Fruitcake

Psychiatrists need to show that they are above pharma money to do more honest studies on the link between SSRI and mass shootings/suicide ideation .

What amazes about psychiatry is the lack of objectivity regarding tools of trade. If they can't get that right, why should anyone consider seriously the opinion of some political hack from Johns Hopkins?

I guess it takes mentally ill people to recognize it others; actually not, but psych docs tend to have more mental illness than average Med student.

Also psych is barely a real doc since they use the least amount of their medical education in their day to day jobs than any other type of MD/DO

Even their DSM is horribly corrupted by drug company influence.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Trumpligula calls it INNOVATION! and, since HE! won, it is an act of unparalleled patriotism!

Since most politicians are dirtbags and presumably no one else in the US has attempted, let alone succeeded at such a stunt, is it not creative?

Wasn't fake news coined by the left??????

Because he doesn't.

MMR says

You're basing whether or not to leave based on what people on an online forum say?

If you have enough money to live comfortably in another country, why would you care what people on an online forum think?

Macropodia says

You can't bitch about one law not being enforced if you are not willing to enforce them all.

People who enter this country illegally are breaking the law.

Enforce that one, or change it. Then we can talk about all the rest.

Obama doubled the budget for border patrol, doubled the budget for ICE, increased agents by 25%.. https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/the-cost-of-immigration-enforcement-and-border-security

What in your strange world would enforcing the law look like?

So Russia is responsible for screwing over Bernie?

Because he was the only hurdle Trump faced to the presidency. Hillary never had a chance

All that crap was just for show and tell...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/10/border-patrol-ordered-to-release-illegals-still-so/

Give all the agencies more money to enforce the border, then tell them to stand down...LOL...

bob2356 says

Macropodia says

You can't bitch about one law not being enforced if you are not willing to enforce them all.

People who enter this country illegally are breaking the law.

Enforce that one, or change it. Then we can talk about all the rest.

Obama doubled the budget for border patrol, doubled the budget for ICE, increased agents by 25%.. https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/the-cost-of-immigration-enforcement-and-border-security

What in your strange world would enforcing the law look like?

Macropodia says

All that crap was just for show and tell...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/10/border-patrol-ordered-to-release-illegals-still-so/

Give all the agencies more money to enforce the border, then tell them to stand down...LOL...

From your article
“The U.S. Border Patrol has not issued any stand-down order to agents,” the agency said in a statement to The Washington Times. “The Border Patrol’s enforcement posture and operation is the same as it was in 2014 and 2015, agents are issuing Notices to Appear consistent with law, regulation, and enforcement priorities.”

Want to produce a copy of the actual stand down order? I notice it's not in the article. What a surprise. I'll wait, and wait and wait and wait.

Isn't the washington times the mooney paper that went digital because they couldn't give away enough copies to use as toilet paper in the dc subways? Yea that was the one.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38552917

"US President-elect Donald Trump has acknowledged a report by intelligence agencies that Russia tried to hack the presidential election, a top aide says.

"I think he accepts the findings," incoming chief of staff Reince Priebus told Fox News Sunday".

bob2356 says

Macropodia says

All that crap was just for show and tell...


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/10/border-patrol-ordered-to-release-illegals-still-so/

Give all the agencies more money to enforce the border, then tell them to stand down...LOL...

From your article

“The U.S. Border Patrol has not issued any stand-down order to agents,” the agency said in a statement to The Washington Times. “The Border Patrol’s enforcement posture and operation is the same as it was in 2014 and 2015, agents are issuing Notices to Appear consistent with law, regulation, and enforcement priorities.”

Want to produce a copy of the actual stand down order? I notice it's not in the article. What a surprise. I'll wait, and wait and wait and ...

MMR says

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Poll: Without Daddy's Money, Effeminate Trust-Fund Twit Donald Trump Would Be:

Sounds like a scientific poll; in other news, if my grandmother had a dick, she'd be my grandfather

AF has a point. It's foolish to admire a person for being rich when the only reason that person is rich is because he inherited great wealth. It certainly does not show good business skills.

The Truth is out there, but you wont find it on a Cable channel.

bob2356 says

Strategist says

The number I am looking at is $1 million turned into $10 billion. A remarkable achievement by any standard.

So you are saying he inherited nothing? Want to back that up with something. Anything?

Crickets chirping.

WorkInProgress says

THE TRUTH DOES NOT EXIST.

www.youtube.com/embed/MMzd40i8TfA

joeyjojojunior says

"I think he accepts the findings," incoming chief of staff Reince Priebus told Fox News Sunday".

Trump accepted that Russia probably hacked the DC, along w many other countries. This is the same info already known from the wikileaks themselves. Trump followed up the meeting w a general statement about cyber security, and has called the MSM russian story "fake news" as recently as last week.

Thank you for sharing.

Even AiA has been infected w TARD

Trump won't go to jail. Putin will pardon him.

Here's something for Ironman to chew on:

http://www.snopes.com/wsj-different-trump-headlines/

WorkInProgress says

Who is your truth teller?

Jesus Christ: The Way, the Truth and the Life.

WorkInProgress says

Is he/she/it better than my truth teller?

Yes.

"Thanks for proving my point, that two different headlines were printed the same day."

Actually it proved your source was lying. It wasn't different markets. That's what happens when you believe memes floating around on facebook though.

I thought the Trump solo press conference was pretty refreshing. I guess the VSPs (Very Serious Persons) in the press corps do not like it when Trump does not follow convention. The general subtext of Washington public discourse is that there are 3 levels of context to any conversation.

1. policy.
2. "politics", which one might call meta-policy discussions, or trying to sell, rationalize and justify policy choices.
3. meta-politics, talking about the context in which politics is conducted: The unwritten rules, the practices, the deep state, and the character and quality of the media/public discourse about politics.

The "sin" that Trump has committed is that he brings up meta-politics when he speaks. He will talk about how the press behaves, how politicians behave, and he is not afraid of violating the number one unwritten rule of meta-politics: You don't talk about meta-politics. Meta-politics is only allowed in smoky back-rooms, out of the public eye.

I wish people would concentrate on Trump policy and actions. There is plenty to criticize, starting with handing over economic policy to Goldman Sachs alumni. But the Russia thing is so far mostly a big Red Herring. Since when does speaking with an ambassador count as "having contact with intelligence officials"? Why is nobody calling out the press on that obvious misrepresentation?

"Trump accepted that Russia probably hacked the DC, along w many other countries. This is the same info already known from the wikileaks themselves. Trump followed up the meeting w a general statement about cyber security, and has called the MSM russian story "fake news" as recently as last week."

OK, so he accepts that Russia hacked the DNC and released the emails in a strategic fashion to try to sway the election in Trump's favor then?

What exactly is "fake news" then?

that's kind of sad actually (referring to Dan).

"Since when does speaking with an ambassador count as "having contact with intelligence officials"? Why is nobody calling out the press on that obvious misrepresentation?"

Because that is not what they are representing. Other top Trump aides were in frequent contact with Russian intelligence officials, according to US intelligence officials. Paul Manafort and Carter Page have been named as the aides. Not Flynn.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-campaign-team-repeated-contact-with-russian-intelligence-michael-flynn/

@joeyjojojunior,

Fake news is clearly in the mind of the beholder. Fake News == Propaganda.

And equally clearly, the mainstream media (of all political leanings) have been printing lots of fake news over the years. But I think what happened with the current Fake News concept was that the mainstream media tried to shift the blame of fake news onto the OBVIOUS fake news of the tabloid and Breitbart or Fox-type right-wing media. This was a diversionary tactic to avoid being criticized for all the crazy propaganda that they normally spread.

The dangerous fake news is not of the obvious type "Obama controlled by Martian invaders", but rather the "Trump controlled by Russian intelligence officials".

Well, we can agree on one point--fake news definitely seems to be in the eye of the beholder.

>>Other top Trump aides were in frequent contact with Russian intelligence officials, according to US intelligence officials. Paul Manafort and Carter Page have been named as the aides. Not Flynn.

@joeyjojojunior, There is a lot of conflation of any official as being an intelligence official, and a conflation of what one person did with what another person MAYBE did.

In the link name, Flynn is implicated, and the word "intelligence" is used.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-campaign-team-repeated-contact-with-russian-intelligence-michael-flynn/?ref=patrick.net

In the article headline, Flynn is NOT implicated, but "Trump Team" is, and the word "intelligence" is highlighted.

QUOTE headline: Trump team reportedly had repeated contact with Russian intelligence before election

And in the article text, Manafort and Page are implicated, but only for having contact with "officials". Note carefully that only the word "official" and not "intelligence official" is then used. But the net effect is to associate Manafort and Page with Russian intelligence officials.

QUOTE article : Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and former campaign adviser Carter Page also reportedly talked to Russian officials last year.

The above is a great example of misrepresentation, fake news and propaganda. The link name, headline and text are all saying different and inconsistent things, but having the net effect of tarring Flynn, Manafort and Page as having had contact with Russian intelligence officials, even if a lawyer might be able to argue that "cbsnews did not actually claim that".

This is how fake news works. Just using your example. FAKE NEWS CAN BE VERY SUBTLE, propganda likewise.

I'm not even sure what you are arguing here. That the name of the link is misleading? Who cares? Nobody gets their news from article link names.

The story reads as if sources told CBS that there is significant evidence of repeated communication between Trump officials and Russian intelligence during the campaign, but the sources didn't share exactly which people are implicated. The author then speculates based on what is known fact.

Without Daddy's money, Trump would be selling pencils at Realtor conventions.

joeyjojojunior says

I'm not even sure what you are arguing here.

Fake news and propaganda is often hidden in the subtle wordings being used. Many readers will conflate certain generic accusations with specific persons mentioned, even if care was taken by the journalist (or propagandist) not to actually mention the accusatory word ("intelligence") and the name of the person in the same sentence.

Am I being too subtle for you ;-) :-)

Trumpligula has ordered 3000 full length and ceiling mirrors in the Orange House, because he likes to watch.