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jazz music says

5. Rampant Sexism

List sounded legit until this one...

Rew says

When do we get start torturing again?

So Guantanamo stopped operations when? Manning was held in solitary under which administration?

Most important point that was left out:

15. A national bank

And number 2 would be better written as:

2. A professed love of mankind, while hating every individual.

Jazzy, is this what you study in your HS global studies class?

rando says

Absolutely not controlled in any way. They are free to scream and they scream all day.

The way the media goes on with anti-Trump fake news, harping the most trifling item and trying to blow it up into something impeachable, and has abandoned the traditional Honeymoon phase entirely, it's obvious there is absolutely no threat to them or to their employees

Nobody, however, comments on the Corporate Media's long standing policy of defaming and excluding alternative media, or their insistence on maintaining a lock on WH Press Events via the "Big 8".

You're watching desperate, obsolete Middle Men taking the gloves off in an attempt to restore their Influence and Legitimacy.

jazz music says

http://www.rense.com/general37/fascism.htm

You realize your quoting an anti-vaxx, UFO believing, anti-semitic conspiracy website, am I right?

Remote Sensing UFO Bases
http://www.rense.com/general68/remm.htm

(((They))) control America like (((they))) controlled Germany in 1929.
http://www.rense.com/general59/sdom.htm

Bigfoot
http://www.rense.com/general31/report.htm

Avoid ALL vaccinations:
http://www.rense.com/general87/avoid.htm

rando says

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause

Illegal aliens should not be here. Terrorists should die before they can kill anyone. Not so much a unifying cause as threats.

The media, the Democrats, Hillary, Obama, Muslims, undocumented workers,the "elite", the "establishment" and Nordstrom's!

What a cock in the mouthful of absolute horse shit rubbish.
You bastards thew every book out of the window you fascist sons of bitches ought to know a thing or two about fascism.
The world wide conservative movement is about to run you Charlatan Commie dangerous bastards out of town on poll.
I hope there's blood in Europe so we wont have to get to that point. But we might!

About to hit $140/sh

jazz music says

I was raised in the greater Los Angeles

My mother's next to oldest brother and his wife lived at 4242 Sutro--we visited them in 1951 when their youngest daughter Margaret got married. Are you familiar with that area? When we visited again in 1971 for her niece's wedding, uncle Charlie had died and Aunt Caroline had moved to Margaret and Bent's first home two blocks from the ocean on Manhattan Beach. I always wanted to see LA again.

Fascists always accuse others of the very crimes of which they themselves are guilty!
How's the tiny mustache working for you, Jazz?

The people in the picture literally simply switched political parties. Today's Republicans are yesterday's Dixiecrats. It's not the name of the political party that matters. The American South has always been evil because it's always been religious. It's improving as Christianity loses power, but the South won't be good until Christianity is dead regardless of which political party they control.

jazz music says

My world is a melting pot of cultures and traditions. I went to Coos Bay Oregon a few times and I could not believe the extreme dominance of fair skinned caucasians. I felt like I had gone to Ireland they way people all around me looked. And it was like another planet to me.

Yes I feel the same way when I leave South Florida and go to North Florida. There is no Latin stores, Korean stores, Caribbean stores, Public doesn't have a shelf with Jerk Chicken spices and other Jamaican flavors. It's back to meat loaf and Mac Cheese from a box when I go there.

jazz music says

Traditionally hispanic people are extra generous with their food

Most people are generally when it comes to their traditional food.
If you are having a picnic next to a family of Pakistanis(or any nationality) in a public park. There's a good chance one of the people from that party are going to wander over and get you to try their BBQ Goat dish or what ever it is.

FP says

Trump and his circle of advisors, or those who oppose and attack him most actively.

Not much difference. It's two tribes of conservatives warring with each other. Let them weaken each other while liberals build a new political party either by reforming the DNC or breaking with the Democrats and destroying that party. The latter scenario is much harder, but it could happen. The new party would have to take over most Democratic seats in Congress first while letting the Republicans have the White House for years. Once the new party has the former Democratic seats, it could take the White House and the most of the remaining seats from the Republicans. Again, taking over the Democratic Party would be easier, but if that fails, we have a fallback plan.

Dan8267 says

Name one liberal policy that has not worked.

The War on Poverty.

jazz music says

Many of the war on poverty's programs — like Medicaid, Medicare, food stamps, Head Start, Job Corps, VISTA and Title I — are still in place today. The Nixon administration largely dismantled the OEO, distributing its functions to a variety of other federal agencies, and eventually the office was renamed in 1975 and then shuttered for good in 1981.

5. Did it reduce poverty, actually?

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/29/14112084/war-on-poverty-brooklyn-great-society
Why the war on poverty failed — and what to do now

http://www.heritage.org/poverty-and-inequality/report/the-war-poverty-after-50-years
The lack of progress in building self-sufficiency since the beginning of the War on Poverty 50 years ago is due in major part to the welfare system itself.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/louiswoodhill/2014/03/19/the-war-on-poverty-wasnt-a-failure-it-was-a-catastrophe/

Has the War on Poverty been a failure? Well, of course it has. If you devote 50 years and $21.5 trillion (in 4Q2013 dollars) to anything, and people are arguing about whether it was a success or a failure, then you can be sure that it was a failure.

The stated goal of the War on Poverty, as enunciated by Lyndon Johnson on January 8, 1964, was, “…not only to relieve the symptom of poverty, but to cure it and, above all, to prevent it.” Measured against this objective, the War on Poverty has not just been a failure, it has been a catastrophe. It was supposed to help America’s poor become self-sufficient, and it has made them dependent and dysfunctional.

jazz music says

Tenpoundbass says

Thug from the Murderous culture Chicago, a Kenyan refugee

OMG You really believe that bullshit don't you?

You really think CNN believes Russia made Trump win? Or that he is a Nazi, or that Bannon is this real evil guy(Anymore so than that treacherous bitch Clinton anyway)
Or that Trump supporters are racist mean spirited biggots. Who so far after 18 months of political campaigning has not created a vicious rabble but the Liberals have countless times. Plus there is actual proof Soros is funding most of the agitation. Just imagine has this gone on under Obama. He would have called out the national guard by then.
I'm popping pop corn when Trump calls them out.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/5/obama-administration-hires-hundreds-pr-staffers/jazz music says

Who in the world besides Putin and Trump has their own propaganda ministry?

Seems like Obama wasn't shy about hiring people to push his agenda. He fits literally every single category of fascism you listed, minus the sexist bit which was pretty debatable anyway. But somehow the big D behind his name makes that invisible to your "scholarly" mind?
My personal belief is that you've been watching and listening to far too much mainstream media globalist propaganda and they've grabbed your pussy hard.

Pentagon was number 1, even under the Obama, who we must remember was a weak leader. He didn't even have a terror attack on US soil for America's Mayor to elevate himself upon!

However, it proves that the Pentagon is always the problem, and doesn't need more money, like Fearless Leader is advocating, eh?

zzyzzx says

The War on Poverty.

How is that a liberal policy? And exactly what policy are you referring to?

The War on Drugs is a policy as it is a specific legal stance of criminalizing drug use and assuming the intent to distribute, a blatant violation of the prosecutor's burden of proof.

jazz music says

5. Did it reduce poverty, actually?

It did. A recent study from economists at Columbia broke down changes in poverty before and after the government gets involved in the form of taxes and transfers, and found that, when you take government intervention into account, poverty is down considerably from 1967 to 2012, from 26 percent to 16 percent

Yes, progressive policies to combat poverty have worked. Poverty will never be extinguished in a capitalism society because capitalism demands poverty to make labor cheap and to allow the owners to have as large of a piece of the pie as possible. But that doesn't mean the progressive policies haven't alleviated poverty considerably.

Nonetheless, progressivism and liberalism are two entirely different and unrelated things. I don't think zzyzzx understands that.

jazz music says

Tenpoundbass says

Russia made Trump win?

I thought Hillary did. She and the super delegates and Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

Hasn't VOA just always been American propaganda? Of course the executive sets the tone.
And honestly I can't imagine any propaganda to be any more pervasive, shrill, and adamantly one-sided than the MSM has been for the last two years. It's been such a disgrace that the grand majority of Americans distrust the media by sheer reflex now. But there are some who still eat it up.

I remember my grandpa when my mom suggested changing the channel during the evening news hour: "It's the News!" Meaning of course that it was obviously the most important thing to be watching at any given moment. Perhaps you are in that cohort. The older generations are about the only ones still watching.

Dan8267 says

progressive policies to combat poverty have worked

They're certainly working in Venezuela.

yep :)

Yes, the shear amazingness of the Donald is buoying all markets everywhere. The fundamentals are solid.

All that low skilled out of work struggling forgotten demographic is getting bigly rich off this market run up too. They all hold massive amounts of stock investments.

Next Trump will sneeze and millions of jobs will rain down upon the masses.

Cheap money and easy credit. Lets see how long the Fed can keep up the market.

Rew says

Yes, the shear amazingness of the Donald is buoying all markets everywhere. The fundamentals are solid.

All that low skilled out of work struggling forgotten demographic is getting bigly rich off this market run up too. They all hold massive amounts of stock investments.

Next Trump will sneeze and millions of jobs will rain down upon the masses.

ha ha ha
The question is......are we better off now, than we were 4 months ago?

LOTS and LOTS of cash were sitting on the sidelines.

investors did not trust in Obama's abilities. now they are happy they have dodged a bullet that is Hillary.

That is the thing. Investors are ready to invest in America, now. In Trump we trust.

i don't see the stock going down from now until end of 2018 Q1.

if iPhone 8 is a hit, this rally should continue even longer.

why do liberal women hate the only politicians who wants to protect them from illegal rapists?

do they WANT to get raped by illegal savages?

Ironman says

Yep, just like they (the 47% of Obama voters Romney referenced) did during the 7 year Obama recovery.
Oh wait....

So you're confirming Trump hasn't done anything for these so called 'forgotten people'. I agree.

- 54 billion in military spending goes where? Virginia/D.C. defense contractors. Great. Why? What new threat? Yemen?
- De-regulation does what? Increase wages? No. Create jobs? No. Line the pockets of corporations? You bet.
- 1 trillion in domestic spending on roads. I can get behind that. Know who won't? Republicans. "Public and private" companies to be funded = corruption in the Trump-era.

Ironman says

You have that confused with the massive amounts of college debt and national debt Obama laid on them.

See proposed spending above. Trump has a no affordable college education plan and 'balanced budget' wasn't even part of his pretense of political vocabulary last night. That's actually a big departure. He is no fiscal conservative.

Ironman says

Finally, you're waking up. Are you mad because you missed the 3000 point run-up since the election? Maybe you need to get into your company 401K?

I'm well taken care of there. I didn't vote out of pure self interest.
I voted for sanity, decorum, and American exceptionalism. So, not Trump.

Strategist says

The question is......are we better off now, than we were 4 months ago?

We rush to ruin, waving our flag, shouting platitudes, and shunning intellect as we descend and retreat. Trump is erraticism, divisiveness, and anything but steady as he rips the breaks off the economy and pushes us down a hill. Things will feel good initially, until we crash.

Ironman says

Mexican man charged with rape had 19 deportations, removals

Why do you hate immigrants?

Hater says

Would not a true believer be a hypocrite for owning and operating a car?

No. They would be a hypocrite for commuting 70 miles each day in a gas guzzler, but forgoing a car is something that a dedicated few will do. Believing that this is a problem and thinking that the government should do what it can to help find and implement solutions is completely congruent with using the typical tools of today.

Hater says

Dan8267 says

Climate change is first and foremost a moral issue. It is the greatest moral issue of our time.

Would not a true believer be a hypocrite for owning and operating a car?

No. I'm all for phasing out combustible engines, a carbon tax, a methane tax, and an elimination of coal power plants, a major source of pollution.

The typical climate change denier response is always the false dichotomy that if you cannot immediately eliminate every single bit of pollution, you should not do anything to limit pollution. This is utter bullshit. It's like saying that if you cannot immediately stop all terrorism, you should do absolutely nothing about terrorism.

There are very real, concrete steps we can take to limit and ultimately eliminate pollution, mitigate climate change, and stop the wholesale mass extinction going on right now. To say we should do nothing because we cannot immediately convert over all our infrastructure away from gas-powered cars is an immoral and disingenuous claim.

Hater says

Would you agree that overpopulation is the main contributer?

Main? No. The fact that pollution generation is not remotely distributed proportional to population density empirically disproves that hypothesis.

However, overpopulation for a given technology level most certainly is a factor. Nonetheless, parasitic and short-sighted financial incentives are the main factor.