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81513   Dan8267   2017 Mar 2, 7:47am  

YesYNot says

Believing that this is a problem and thinking that the government should do what it can to help find and implement solutions is completely congruent with using the typical tools of today.

Exactly. Symbolic gestures means nothing. What matters are practical solutions.

81514   Dan8267   2017 Mar 2, 7:48am  

Hater says

How is it broken? A true believer posted it on patnet.

So "true believer" is now code for "I can't refute your argument so I'll make an ad hominem attack that you are crazy". Not a convincing argument.

81515   zzyzzx   2017 Mar 2, 7:52am  

I would still rate this at the rumor level:
http://acprimetime.com/hard-rock-buy-taj-mahal-casino-atlantic-city-boardwalk/

Hard Rock Entertainment is buying the shuttered Trump Taj Mahal casino on the Atlantic City Boardwalk.

As ACprimetime reported last week, all indications (plenty of trusted tips) pointed to Hard Rock having substantial interest in buying this massive Atlantic City property from owner Carl Icahn. An obvious clue was witnessing the popular Hard Rock Cafe keeping up operations with their Boardwalk front property, even as the adjacent casino hotel was shut down.

Neighboring Steel Pier and their soon-to-be erected Observation Wheel will certainly benefit from this great news. On the other hand, we believe Glenn Straub’s shuttered REVEL property just took a valuation hit. As for SHOWBOAT HOTEL, owner Bart Blatstein & his Tower Investments along the Boardwalk are looking rosier.

Billionaire Carl Icahn is selling the shuttered Trump Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City to Hard Rock International and two New Jersey investors. Hard Rock International Announces Partnership with Morris and Jingoli Families to Purchase Atlantic City’s Taj Mahal

Hard Rock International will be majority owner of the rebranded Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Atlantic City in partnership with the Morris and Jingoli families. The group will invest more than $300 million to purchase, substantially renovate and re-open the casino.

The partnership, majority controlled by Hard Rock International, will transform the existing Taj Mahal with a complete remodel and rebrand of the property that is located on 17-acres of prime Boardwalk real estate, offering guestrooms with views of the city and ocean in the building once named the 8th wonder of the world.

81516   indigenous   2017 Mar 2, 7:57am  

I agree, FDR created regime uncertainty which kept investors at bay throughout his reign. This had more to do with the great depression than anything else.

Similar to what we are seeing now.

The caveat is if he goes through with the tariffs, that would be huge mistake. The tax credits will also create a boom if they get though congress.

81517   zzyzzx   2017 Mar 2, 8:03am  

Confirmed elsewhere:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/01/news/companies/trump-taj-mahal-sale/

Trump Taj Mahal purchased by Hard Rock

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/Hard-Rock-in-deal-to-buy-Trump-Taj-Mahal.html

No sale price was announced, but Hard Rock International said its group would invest more than $300 million to buy, renovate, and reopen the 17-acre resort.

Mayor Don Guardian said Hard Rock brought the needed expertise in the gaming industry. It was a "perfect fit for Atlantic City right now," he added.

Hard Rock International runs 11 casinos, 24 hotels, and 174 cafes around the world.

Guardian said he expected a grand reopening in the summer of 2018.

"It's a tired property. It was the jewel of Atlantic City when it opened in [1990]. Now it needs work," he said.

President Trump has not been materially involved in recent years, other than allowing his name to be used.

81518   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Mar 2, 8:56am  

Russia hacked the election is the Pizzagate of the Neoliberals. It requires no evidence for initial belief. In fact, neoliberals believe it first and are desperately jumping on anything that might remotely help correlate their narrative second.

I'm sure it had nothing to do with Hillary not visiting key states once since the Primaries, slamming about half of America as Racist, Sexist, Misogynist, Deplorables, and being endorsed by every Neocon from Bill Kristol to "W" himself..

81519   MMR   2017 Mar 2, 10:30am  

zzyzzx says

No sale price was announced, but Hard Rock International said its group would invest more than $300 million to buy, renovate, and reopen the 17-acre resort.

Mayor Don Guardian said Hard Rock brought the needed expertise in the gaming industry. It was a "perfect fit for Atlantic City right now," he added.

Hard Rock International runs 11 casinos, 24 hotels, and 174 cafes around the world.

Forgive me for not sharing your enthusiasm regarding AC.

I once stayed at a hard rock hotel in Orlando near universal. I have to say, I was impressed by the prices but not the overall trashy crowd that frequents what is otherwise an expensive hotel.

Breakfast was quite good though and the fitness center and sauna were decent.

Other than that, not worth 300+ per night.

Still I think at best, they will put some competitive pressure on borgata but outside short term, doubt they will cause people to cruise up from Baltimore, PA, NY, New England in any significant numbers

Prior to borgata best restaurant in casino was hooters at trump Marina; hard rock from culinary standpoint still would be below borgata

81520   zzyzzx   2017 Mar 2, 11:04am  

MMR says

Other than that, not worth 300+ per night.

Still I think at best, they will put some competitive pressure on borgata but outside short term, doubt they will cause people to cruise up from Baltimore, PA, NY, New England in any significant numbers

Prior to borgata best restaurant in casino was hooters at trump Marina; hard rock from culinary standpoint still would be below borgata

If you spent $300 a night to stay in AC, then you don't know how to shop. My stay at the Taj last June was less than $100, even with parking. You are forgetting that Hard Rock probably paid very little for the Taj, and there is always going to be a demand for rooms at the beach. At least in Atlantic City, the demand is year round on weekends as well. You can't say that for anyplace else on the shore.

How did the Hooters in Trump Marina compare to the Hooters in the Tropicana? Quite frankly, I'd rather go to Adam Good Sports Bar if I am at the Trop.

81521   Dan8267   2017 Mar 2, 1:10pm  

Hater says

No. True believer is a person that instead of debating the facts calls the other person an idiot or a denier for not believing climate models that foretell massive human extinction if we don't cut back on carbon production.

That's hyperbole. However, one does not "debate facts". One uses facts in a debate. The facts are verifiable. You don't get to make up your own.

It is a fact that man-made climate change is happening, that it is increasing exponentially, and that it has already resulted in real world consequences like the lost of inhabited land and changes to agriculture.

Dan8267 says

The typical climate change denier response is always the false dichotomy that if you cannot immediately eliminate every single bit of pollution, you should not do anything to limit pollution. This is utter bullshit. It's like saying that if you cannot immediately stop all terrorism, you should do absolutely nothing about terrorism.

Hater says

like that

I stand by my statement. It is empirically true.

Hater says

Are there any practical solutions that the whole world will agree to?

The whole world doesn't agree that rape, genocide, slavery, or terrorism should be illegal. Does that mean we should not do anything to stop any of those things?

If it helps you, just think of climate change as Islamic terrorism. I guarantee that climate change and pollution will take far more years off your life personally than terrorism will.

[stupid comment limit]

81522   Dan8267   2017 Mar 2, 1:12pm  

Hater says

For example?

If I took ran a factory at my house and dumped all the waste onto your yard and it seeped into your drinking water and caused you health problems, you'd probably be pretty pissed off at me. The fact that doing so saves me a lot of money and thus increases my profit margins doesn't really matter to you. Why should it be any different for coal power plants? They release pollution that enters the food supply and causes all sorts of health problems.

81523   Dan8267   2017 Mar 2, 1:25pm  

Hater says

I agree, pollution bad.

Do you agree it's bad enough to be criminalized and/or require polluters to pay fines or sin taxes to make up for the incredible amount of damage they do?

That's a real step to fighting climate change and all other environmental problems.

81524   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Mar 2, 1:47pm  

Hater says

Wetbulb death is not important to people struggling to survive.

Wet bulb temp doesn't matter to dim bulbs... until they start dying.

81525   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Mar 2, 1:48pm  

Rew says

Ahhh ... but lots of Xians believe humans are all special un-meltable snowflakes, God's chosen creature, made in his image, and the Earth is a gift for Human use. This is justification for the disregard to the natural environment. It's "ours" to do with as we please. God will provide all to the faithful, and when the great revealing takes place, the faithful will be rewarded.

Nature has fallen. Nature is irremediably corrupted.
In fact every natural impulse is a sin in that tradition (and its cousins).

81526   anonymous   2017 Mar 2, 9:00pm  

Gold - LOOK OUT BELOW!

81527   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2017 Mar 2, 9:32pm  

wait, i thought this place had gone under because of Trump's bad business decisions?

new owner suffered the same fate? what a coincidence!

81528   Done   2017 Mar 2, 9:42pm  

just any guy says

Gold - LOOK OUT BELOW!

Yep, that's what the big picture (price) seems to be saying $950+/-. My suggestion is let price confirm and close
above 1275-1300 depending on price reaction in that zone and buy on confirmation then you are likely to see some
profit opportunity in the 1650-1725 area. If anyone actually bought based on this post they are either in the red or
near break even. 3 choices sell at a very small profit or loss or if you feel lucky hold.

81529   Rew   2017 Mar 2, 10:09pm  

Despite Ryan's comments ...
www.youtube.com/embed/rLeVhpseA0s

Actually only, currently, looks like one US official was sucking him off ...
www.youtube.com/embed/OOIjbm1wKUE

Sessions : too close to investigate Trump's administration? Really? You don't say.
www.youtube.com/embed/Qu6kAC4LEJs

They love that "I've met with a ton of ambassadors" BS. LOL. McCain laughing his ass off. :P

81530   Rew   2017 Mar 2, 10:27pm  

What is it, 5 or 6 weeks in, and the GOP is asking for a special investigator ... lol!

Poor Trump. He was really riding high off that congressional address ... for about 11 hours. ;)

81531   rchri125   2017 Mar 2, 10:44pm  

Trump is the greatest. Obama was the worst.

81532   zzyzzx   2017 Mar 3, 5:15am  

RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks says

new owner suffered the same fate? what a coincidence!

The new owner Ichan had union issues and didn't make an attempt to clean up the place or diversify. I think a boardwalk hotel with less gambling and a huge indoor poll would do well.

81533   zzyzzx   2017 Mar 3, 5:16am  

Ironman says

I regularly get room deals to stay at the Trop for the $39 - $59 range and it usually includes some sort of food or beverage credit too.

Please post those codes someplace (Tripadvisor, Slickdeals, FatWallet).

81534   theoakman   2017 Mar 3, 5:29am  

zzyzzx says

Then you don't know how to shop!

Bally's Atlantic City 1900 Pacific Ave. Atlantic City, NJ 08401

Guest Name: ZZYZZX

Room Type: Bally's Tower | Deluxe | 1 King | Non-Smoking

Check In Date: 09/XX/2017

Check Out Date: 09/XX/2017 (2 days later)

Room Preference: NON-SMOKING, K

Number of Rooms: 1

Adults: 2

Children: 0

Subtotal: $62.40

Resort/Other Fees: $57.42

Taxes: $15.24

Room Total: $135.06

And that's for 2 nights in early September when it's good beach weather. That even includes parking! Last year it was about the same money and I even got a corner king room with a huge tub.

Book early and book often. If you book directly with the hotel it's easy to cancel if you find a better deal or if you think the weather is going to stick 3 days out.

To be honest, that was 5 years ago and I haven't bothered to look for a room since I've had kids. Maybe they are finally coming around to dropping prices. Sure, I've had deals here and there where I get a $50 room at AC but in Vegas, it's available all the time with no effort at all at the drop of a hat.

81535   fdhfoiehfeoi   2017 Mar 3, 11:40am  

Patrick's intent is not limitation of freedom, but his tool, government, is only about limiting freedom. His proposals would be more obviously freedom loving if they included words like:

abolish
annul
interpose
disband
burn down

81536   missing   2017 Mar 3, 5:28pm  

Over the long term short rates also fluctuate, so there is most of the time positive correlation.

But I agree that many factors determine the long rates and if they start to go up it will be a long and messy process.

By the way, the forex market also affects the rates. So when China intervenes to defend its currency, long term US treasury rates go up. This did not exist 20 years ago.

81537   Dan8267   2017 Mar 3, 11:13pm  

Possibility four. Clownstick is sick with jealousy because he knows he will never be as great as great leader.

What should great leader do to Russian puppet? Nuke him? Hang him? Starve him? Make his listen to Trigglypuff all day? No, that last one is too cruel even by great leader's standards.

81538   Dan8267   2017 Mar 3, 11:15pm  

Great leader has bigger hands than Trump. Maybe great leader just slap the fuckface off the clownstick.

81539   zzyzzx   2017 Mar 4, 6:25am  

81540   CBOEtrader   2017 Mar 4, 8:02am  

What if he's right?

81541   zzyzzx   2017 Mar 4, 8:21am  

Trump is almost always right. I bet this is true too. Just like Obama's slush fund.

81542   zzyzzx   2017 Mar 4, 8:41am  

Ripped off from other threads:

81543   Patrick   2017 Mar 4, 8:45am  

CBOEtrader says

What if he's right?

Exactly.

Would be good if he comes up with some evidence, but it's not beyond belief.

81544   Entitlemented   2017 Mar 4, 9:06am  

The dems say that the Russians modified our elections - Evidence Please
The CEO says that Obama wired taped him - Evidence Please

The only folks who make $$ of heresay are lawyers

81545   joeyjojojunior   2017 Mar 4, 9:16am  

zzyzzx says

Trump is almost always right. I bet this is true too. Just like Obama's slush fund.

Yep, and like Obama's birth certificate too.

81546   anonymous   2017 Mar 4, 9:34am  

Watergate anyone?

81547   Dan8267   2017 Mar 4, 9:54am  

rando says

CBOEtrader says

What if he's right?

Exactly.

Of course Trump is right that Obama tapped his phone lines. Obama had the NSA tap everyone's phone lines.

People need to realize that telephone conversations haven't been on analog dedicated circuits for a long time. There's no actual tapping of wires involved anymore. All your phone conversations, even if you are using an old rotary land line, are now IP telephony data. That means they are simply IP packets like any other Internet traffic. They are a bunch of ones and zeros routed through parts of the Internet owned and controlled by big telecom companies. It is utterly trivial to write every single IP packet that passes through the router to a database. The entire conversation can be reconstructed at any time, and you can ask for all conversations involving specific phone numbers or ranges of phone numbers.

If the president or anyone with sufficient access to the system wanted to, he could listen to any phone conversation at the drop of a hat. But don't worry, I'm sure our politicians and unaccountable government agents won't abuse this power, just like no one at the TSA would abuse pat-downs to get a sexual thrill. After all, if there is anything history has taught us it's that power prevents corruption, especially unaccountable power.

81548   zzyzzx   2017 Mar 4, 10:29am  

joeyjojojunior says

Yep, and like Obama's birth certificate too.

I'm not convinced that the birth certificate Obama FINALLY produced was real. If it were real why did it take so long?

81549   Bellingham Bill   2017 Mar 4, 11:31am  

NuttBoxer says

What your fiat currency-centric mind doesn't understand is gold and silver have been outpacing inflation(the dollar) for nearly a decade.

we had fiat 1980-2000, and teh glod wasn't that great a return.

real YOY % gain gold

81550   joeyjojojunior   2017 Mar 4, 12:22pm  

zzyzzx says

joeyjojojunior says

Yep, and like Obama's birth certificate too.

I'm not convinced that the birth certificate Obama FINALLY produced was real. If it were real why did it take so long?

This post is exactly why--Obama knew that nothing could convince folks like you so what was the point. Why acknowledge the nutjobs and give them a forum?

81551   Patrick   2017 Mar 4, 1:29pm  

joeyjojojunior says

Why acknowledge the nutjobs and give them a forum?

Because it's what I really love to do!

81552   Rew   2017 Mar 4, 1:34pm  

Trump backing away from collaboration with Russia in Syria due to the recent scandals and three 'ongoing investigations '.

Shelf life of this crazy claim? I give it a week. Does the president have a confirmed named source? If there was wire tapping is it legally done because Trump was considered a potential enemy of the country?

Meanwhile ... Russsssia.

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