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82741   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Apr 21, 1:31pm  

This is not a violent meme.

82742   Ceffer   2017 Apr 21, 1:41pm  

I am going to miss mean old O'Reilly beating liberals to a pulp with his Jesus statue.

It's going to be hard to find somebody with the same aura of grandiose, prickish self righteousness. Many are called, but few can pull it off.

82743   Blurtman   2017 Apr 21, 1:47pm  

It's a revolt of the fading beauty leg-crossers!

82744   RWSGFY   2017 Apr 21, 1:50pm  

jazz music says

Straw Man says

With what army?

Heheh the army of people that have their eyes opened to looking at no access to health care they can afford because the system is all about maximizing speculator passive gains for doing nothing, ohhh yeaaaaahhhhh.

You don't have said army at your disposal judging from the results of the last election. So there is nothing to "push" with. Try again after winning. Want me to remind you when the next election is? Hint: it's not "now". Your timing is waaay off.

82745   bob2356   2017 Apr 21, 1:51pm  

curious2 says

According to YOUR LINK, he "used total medical expenditures for each country using OECD data."

Go lower for the comment by the author of the study itself that says it only captures government spending. You are still claiming the study covers all health care spending? How is that? You don't believe the person who wrote the study?

Leaving out private insurance in the US is absurd when comparing to other countries that have only government health care spending. It makes the chart meaningless.

curious2 says

American per capita spending remains the highest in the world,

That's not what the chart is meant to show. It shows American per capiita spending equal to other countries then exploding at 60-65. Put private insurance into the under 65 numbers and pull the bogus numbers out of over 65 it will be a very different chart with very different conclusions.

US health care spending is far higher than other countries at every age. It doesn't just explode at 60 and it doesn't go anywhere near $45,000 a year per capita for 70 year olds. You and Ironbrain screaming the chart shows it's all medicare's fault is absurd. Medicare is a problem but there are plenty of other equally big problems driving up health care spending.

82746   bob2356   2017 Apr 21, 1:57pm  

Ironman says

Yes, you normally do... Now how do you explain this chart??

This is great, this chart actually shows how stupid the other chart is. Thanks for posting it.

82747   NDrLoR   2017 Apr 21, 2:20pm  

I'd like to see Jesse Watters--I always enjoy his interviews with people on the street.

82748   Ceffer   2017 Apr 21, 4:13pm  

Is scraping a lob out of your shorts and eating it live on national television an impeachable offense?

82749   curious2   2017 Apr 21, 4:22pm  

bob2356 says

curious2 says

According to YOUR LINK, he "used total medical expenditures for each country using OECD data."

Go lower for the comment by the author of the study itself that says it only captures government spending.

"From a quick perusal of the comments on this and other sites, I find that there is no agreement as to what is wrong with the graph, aside from the comment that it only captures government spending (which implies that it should be a lower bound). I have tracked several of the links that have been proposed to provide results and have found it difficult to extract a single common truth.

The medical expenditure panel survey has 2010 total expenses as being $1.26 trillion."

You seem to have omitted "the comment that", and the conclusion "difficult to extract a single common truth" from your selective quotation. Paul Fischbeck and Dan Munro defended the chart while offering to improve it if others could provide better data. I have likewise invited you to produce a better chart. So far, you presented only partial data, which is what you accuse Fischbeck of doing, and he does not appear to concede that point. Even if, as you contend, his chart shows only government data, then that would not explain the huge disparity between the US and other countries in that age cohort.

This is much ado about very little, as you attack (as usual) without posting a more accurate total. You attack one graph while ignoring the many text links that support the same overall conclusion regarding entrepreneurial over-utilization driving higher costs. The McAllen vs El Paso article reported on a 2:1 disparity attributed to doctors' entrepreneurial over-utilization of Medicare. You seem to react defensively perhaps because your own income depends on your wife's medical practice, and you keep saying the cost problem doesn't result from doctors' salaries. You seem to ignore capital gains from shares in diagnostic lab corporations, in addition to illegal kickbacks from diagnostic labs, for example, in order to say it's all someone else's fault. Maybe you feel guilty because billing is your job and maybe you haven't figured out how to cash in the way many others do. I have tried to be as even-handed as possible, faulting primarily the hospital corporations (the biggest and most lethal revenue recipients, taking 40% of total medical spending for the whole population, and much of that from Medicare), the insurance companies, the drug companies, and doctors. You seem unable to handle the fact that doctors have a role in entrepreneurial over-utilization of Medicare, and so you keep fighting a chart while ignoring the tsunami of information on this point. The bottom line, from your linked source, is that nobody produced a better chart clearly contradicting the first; they debated some few trees, as you do, but not the overall forest.

82750   Blurtman   2017 Apr 21, 4:50pm  

At they very top of the list:

82751   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Apr 21, 6:45pm  

curious2 says

It's mainly the hospital executives and other institutional pressures that drive the big ticket over-utilization,

Thanks for your post.

Another one: The revolving door of Nursing Home to C Diff Hospitalization. Contract C Diff, kept in Hospital only a few days, back in Nursing Home. C Diff comes back again, back to Hospital. And then back to the nursing home before the C DIff is wiped out... ready to get it again and spread it to others.

82752   Ceffer   2017 Apr 21, 7:44pm  

Blurtman says

It's a revolt of the fading beauty leg-crossers!

Bitches finally decided they needed to cash in their sexual harassment chits while somebody would still believe they were worth harassing.

The Fox News beaver criss crossings have gone into lockdown!

"Just because I flash beaver for career advancement doesn't mean I am a bad person!"

82753   Done   2017 Apr 21, 10:50pm  

theoakman says

I'll buy 5 oz the day it goes under $1000.

You'll likely have your chance... Not so sure you will have to wait 2 yrs. or more but perhaps.

82754   FortWayne   2017 Apr 22, 12:08pm  

You do have to give Kim credit, he does not limit his options.

82755   FortWayne   2017 Apr 22, 12:10pm  

A sprout of common sense, let's see if it blooms into something

82756   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2017 Apr 22, 1:42pm  

Maher is right. Free speech is a really big deal and the left is taking very strong steps to put further limitations on it. Its sad and I'm glad Maher spoke out so strongly in favor of it.

82757   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2017 Apr 22, 1:44pm  

Kim Jong Un is overdue a killing.

82758   anonymous   2017 Apr 22, 1:55pm  

United should have Reaccommodated Dr Dao on a flight to North Korea and sacrificed the dope slinging deviant upon the alter of the almighty Kimfuck!

82759   Tenpoundbass   2017 Apr 22, 2:18pm  

He's only paraded Ameirca's Liberal elites on his program yelled at them and called them pussies and demanded they do more for the last 20 years.
What more did he expect his pleas for facism to do?

82760   marcus   2017 Apr 22, 2:44pm  

You make no sense TPB. ASking liberal to truly be liberals (rather than moving to the void in the middle left by republicans that are now far right), is far different then asking them to be authoritarian.

Those whackos are an extreme minority of the left.

82761   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2017 Apr 22, 2:48pm  

marcus says

You make no sense TPB. ASking liberal to truly be liberals (rather than moving to the void in the middle left by republicans that are now far right), is far different then asking them to be authoritarian.

Those whackos are an extreme minority of the left.

Thats really quirky coming from a guy who accepts the extreme minority of instances of police/whites/anyone but blacks shooting other blacks simply because it makes the news for a few months while politically expedient.

82762   FortWayne   2017 Apr 22, 3:04pm  

marcus says

Those whackos are an extreme minority of the left.

No they are not, they are the voice of the party these days (Democratic party that is). And it's huge part of why Democrats lost, because party was taken over by loud wackos. BLM started out somewhat reasonably, turned into a movement for anarchists and delinquents who hate white people. Same with Democratic party, it's nothing now but a group of crazies screaming hatred for whites, feminist crap hatred for men, and random race baiting shit. That's all your party is these days. Reasonable people have left, Maher is just pointing it out.

82763   Ceffer   2017 Apr 22, 7:21pm  

This is why tasers were invented: to stun the children and moms and stuff them into their seats.

82764   MMR   2017 Apr 22, 7:47pm  

Problem with Maher is he talks out both sides of mouth

Guy gave million dollars to obama super PAC

82765   indigenous   2017 Apr 22, 8:03pm  

I DON'T like Maher but I like this.

82766   Ceffer   2017 Apr 22, 11:18pm  

Right. If they shoot a few babys in the face, they won't have to worry about this behavior any more.

82767   Ceffer   2017 Apr 22, 11:20pm  

Maher really impresses me. I didn't think liberals had a nausea reflex.

82768   curious2   2017 Apr 23, 3:36am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Ceffer says

Right. If they shoot a few babys in the face, they won't have to worry about this behavior any more.

Exactly and a lot of them, let's be realistic, will be terrorists.

Every parent of a 2yo can tell you, they're all terrorists. To annihilate them as part of the Global War on Terror, airlines offer them free passage as lap children.

82769   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Apr 23, 4:22am  

Hater says

Does anyone know what the ideal temp and co2 percentage is for human life.

This is an extremely vague question. That is one reason no one has engaged.
Ideal for who?
Are you talking only physiologically or through secondary effects?
Would a huge plague that reduced human population by 90% ultimately be good for human life?

82770   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Apr 23, 4:25am  

Science is settled by theory and experiment. It is not settled by debate. Debate is just what you have before science is settled, before people become aware of the speed science, and to a lesser extent when some new evidence comes along that seems to contradict known theories. Occasionally it does contradict and change things, but usually it just needs an explanation.

82771   Y   2017 Apr 23, 6:33am  

Science, by definition, is never 'settled'...
It remains forever in a state of flux, offering up experiment and result, but never the Final Word...

YesYNot says

Science is settled by theory and experiment. It is not settled by debate.

82772   marcus   2017 Apr 23, 8:11am  

Fucking White Male says

Thats really quirky coming from a guy who accepts the extreme minority of instances of police/whites/anyone but blacks shooting other blacks simply because it makes the news for a few months while politically expedient.

Literate much ? I have no idea what you're saying, but I could guess. You think I'm not critical enough of black dirt bags that shoot other blacks and that I'm overly critical of incompetent cops and pussy cops that are afraid of their own shadows. It's totally wrong of me to think that we should demand cops be competant especially with respect to discharging their firearms in to citizens.

82773   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Apr 23, 11:30am  

Ironman says

So explain this:

Why don't you play devils advocate and predict what I'll say. I'll help out if you get it wrong.

82776   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Apr 23, 2:20pm  

Ironman, your trolling is found wanting.

Hater, your question is vague. What is best for humanity is not a scientific question. What science can tell us what is likely to happen to our climate. That's it. How we assess risk, pay for the costs, etc is political. How we value damages and benefits to different people's is subjective.

82777   komputodo   2017 Apr 23, 5:10pm  

Consider the fact that there is only one world and while you guys are virtue signaling by changing your lightbulbs to LEDS and driving a PRIUS, a massive part of the world is still burning shit, releasing toxic gases into the atmosphere, and dumping chemicals wherever they please, etc.

82778   HEY YOU   2017 Apr 23, 8:11pm  

As Democratic & Republican voters intend.
Or they would stop crap like this.

Ironman says

So Apple would not find out that Uber had been secretly identifying and tagging iPhones even after its app had been deleted and the devices erased

Glad Apple protected it's users.

82779   curious2   2017 Apr 23, 8:13pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Clearly, the pilot should have pulled a roscoe and emptied it into the babies' heads to teach everyone a lesson and then had the loud guy arrested and thrown into the jet intake on a taxiing plane to give the evening news something for other passengers to consider before they fuck with shareholder value

Back in the good old days of coal fired steam ships, the crew could use uppity passengers for fuel, confiscate their belongings, and nobody would make a video or even say anything about it. Happened all the time. You could get in an overbooked ship and, if you shut your damned pie hole, end up with a cabin to yourself. Those were the days when people dressed nicely for travel.

82780   HEY YOU   2017 Apr 23, 8:37pm  

Hater says

YesYNot says

Would a huge plague that reduced human population by 90% ultimately be good for human life?

Yes! For the remaining 10 percent.

10% can stay busy shutting down nuclear reactors.

https://www.euronuclear.org/info/encyclopedia/n/nuclear-power-plant-world-wide.htm

When finished,they can figure out what to do with all the spent fuel.

https://www.eia.gov/nuclear/spent_fuel/

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