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83116   Patrick   2017 May 1, 8:38pm  

From my days working at Schwab long ago, I know that the worst performing stocks are those rated "strong buy" by the analysts (yes, really, it's the best negative indicator). The second worst are those rated "strong sell".

The best performing stocks are those rated hold, or not rated at all. So by this indication, ARLP has good prospects. Would be better if it had a slightly lower analyst rating, but at least it's not "strong buy".

83117   anonymous   2017 May 1, 9:35pm  

If this is the price of "Free Speech ", what value does free speech have?

83118   missing   2017 May 1, 9:41pm  

FortWayne says

jazz music says

All the other countries that have a high standard of living like we did before Reagan came along have strong unions, lower inequality and good access to health care.

You are more than welcome to live in those "paradises" and not America. But you won't, because those places suck if you actually work and live there.

The standard moronic reply.

Hey, FortWayne, I am a socialist and think America has a fucked up idiotic system (political, tax, health care, educational, etc.). But I like living here. The place is abundant with the likes of you, which gives me competitive advantage. Pretty, pretty good in a winner takes all society.

83119   anonymous   2017 May 1, 10:28pm  

rando says

From my days working at Schwab long ago, I know that the worst performing stocks are those rated "strong buy" by the analysts (yes, really, it's the best negative indicator). The second worst are those rated "strong sell".

The best performing stocks are those rated hold, or not rated at all. So by this indication, ARLP has good prospects. Would be better if it had a slightly lower analyst rating, but at least it's not "strong buy".

I m not so sure about that assessment. Apple has been a strong buy since around 115...and its 147 now. Outperforming the market by far.
I see a lot of strong buys for ARLP...

83120   Patrick   2017 May 1, 10:36pm  

It was just statistically true, not an absolute rule.

83121   Patrick   2017 May 1, 10:46pm  

So they can't help you either then.

Support for Trump is not entirely irrational. Did you read this one? https://patrick.net/1305439/2017-04-27-dems-need-to-abandon-davos-ideology

83122   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 2, 6:36am  

Hater says

How much time do you suppose we have left?

Do you think that you will be saved from the damages of climate change, because you believe in Jesus?

83123   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 2, 8:41am  

Hater says

Are you a denier?

Of what? Hater says

believe in science?

What do you mean by this? Hater says

The true believers think all of the skeptics are bible thumping fundamentalists

Did you miss the question mark? Is that why you didn't answer the question?

83124   anonymous   2017 May 2, 9:00am  

rando says

It was just statistically true, not an absolute rule.

right

83125   Patrick   2017 May 2, 9:26am  

Boosting the cap from 66,000 to 135,000 would please the business community and infuriate many labor activists and anti-immigration hardliners who have long argued that businesses exploit the H-2B program to undercut American workers. It may never happen—the authority to expand the program lies with the secretary of homeland security, and it's hard to imagine the Trump administration throwing open the door to tens of thousands of new foreign workers. But he now has that power.

Sounds like Congress put that in there, not Trump.

83126   freespeechforever   2017 May 2, 9:27am  

The Trumptards got played like crack-whores and should put a quarter in their asses.

It will be interesting to see the reflexive, brainless, thoughtless defense of Trumpibula by the likes of Ironman (Trump ball cuck) and especially, Patrick.

83127   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 2, 9:30am  

Hater says

The kids are smarter than you think.

Do you know what an exponential curve is and what the mathematical relationship is that when solved leads to exponential growth?

For the record, I don't think that temperature will continue along an exponential curve, but...

Hater says

It's not. Two degrees in a century.

This is not an argument against it.

Hater says

The temp might go up some. It might fall. The sun goes through natural cycles and puts off more or less heat.

Neither is this. If you showed that the sun was going through a huge cycle that lead to a huge temperature change over the last 150 years (2 degrees over that time frame is big), this might have some validity.

83128   anonymous   2017 May 2, 9:36am  

Hillary Clinton would have done the same thing! Therefore, Trump is da man.

83129   Patrick   2017 May 2, 9:52am  

I'd rather leave it up to the thread owners to individually ban Ironman if they agree. Then it's the democratic will of the site members, and not just a dictatorial decision by me.

Yes, he's consistently an inflammatory asshole, but he's not spamming, advocating violence, or posting child porn. He's just being an asshole and that is kinda the nature of anonymous online forums. Personal attacks should be sent to comment jail.

The guy is from New Jersey, so maybe he doesn't know any other way of interacting.

83130   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 May 2, 9:53am  

It's H1-B that people give a crap about. A few ten thousand unskilled visas is not big deal; it's the hundreds of thousands of middle class visa via H1Bs that are a problem.

In any case, this is just a spending bill for this year, to kick the real budget down the road.

I could also turn this around and ask why "The Resistance" is getting so bothered and angry when the temporary spending bill funds pretty much everything the same as it ever was.

That all being said, it's time for Ryan to go.

83131   anonymous   2017 May 2, 9:59am  

it's the hundreds of thousands of middle class visa via H1Bs that are a problem.

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Is the cap still 65k per year?

83132   freespeechforever   2017 May 2, 10:03am  

Voters consistently vote against their self-interests, in this duopoly two-party asinine political system we have, and as fucked up as the Democratic Party is (and it VERY FUCKED UP ON AN ENORMOUS SCALE AND AT A MASSIVE, IRRATIONAL LEVEL), Republican Party has by far perfected the rhetoric and tactics to get their adherents to more often and more fervently vote against their self-interests.

The current Democratic Party is in shambles, assuming it's anything other than designed and built for coastal elites (which it is, unfortunately), but the current Republican Party is an absolutely greater travesty, assuming it's anything other than designed and built for an oligarch corporate system (a Corpocracy) whereby laws are written to ensure 98% of any gains in GDP continue to flow to top 1/2 of one percent (0.05% for you math whizs), and to ensure that former functions of the what was a basic social safety net to keep many people from imploding in youth, mid-life or old-age are also privatized in order to appease the altar of corporate (Corpocracy) profit, which is now more sacred than human life, morality or basic decency in a nation that used to have a nationalistic social contract with its citizens (where individuals had at least some degree of value relative to corporations).

We need to completely dismantle the two-party duopoly, strip the elite and their management class bureaucrat minions of their absolute power, and go to something closer to a fractional parliamentary system, but importantly, also have much more citizen empowerment, while breaking up the corporate oligopoly while prohibiting corporate funding of political campaigns (Citizens United is demon spawn).

83133   joeyjojojunior   2017 May 2, 10:17am  

"It's H1-B that people give a crap about. A few ten thousand unskilled visas is not big deal; it's the hundreds of thousands of middle class visa via H1Bs that are a problem. In any case, this is just a spending bill for this year, to kick the real budget down the road. I could also turn this around and ask why "The Resistance" is getting so bothered and angry when the temporary spending bill funds pretty much everything the same as it ever was. That all being said, it's time for Ryan to go"

Because it's yet another example of Trump being exposed as the used car salesman that he is. Is this what he promised all the coal miners in PA or the unskilled workers in Michigan and Wisconsin? That he'd bring in more unskilled immigrants to compete with them for the few remaining factory jobs? I thought it was the Dems that abandoned labor?

83134   AllTruth   2017 May 2, 10:22am  

Only the dumbest motherfucker- even the dumb asses who voted for him - haven't yet, finally realized that Trump is so full of shit that it's coming out his ears.

It's also obvious to all but the brain dead that Trump is so far in over his head that every American (and many world citizens) should be deeply, deeply worried now.

83135   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 2, 10:25am  

Hater says

You disagree with the Duck?

I have what I would call a minor disagreement with him, and started a thread that gave him and anyone else an opportunity to discuss it.
Hater says

I thought all of you alarmists were on the same page?

I'm guessing that this is a self deprecating joke considering your earlier remark on 'true believers' assuming that all 'skeptics' were Christian fundamentalists.

83136   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 2, 10:30am  

Hell may deport much more than 70K over and above what Obama was doing. Anybody have the figures so far?

83137   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 2, 10:44am  

Presumably, the net effect if you are correct is that there wasn't as much absorption of ocean heat as would have been expected last winter (summer in antarctic). So, this would lead to higher temperatures around the globe in subsequent months. I'm guessing that you are predicting from this that 2017 will be significantly hotter than 2016. Is that about right?

83138   missing   2017 May 2, 10:50am  

I care about H1b, but don't expect nuttin.

83139   Shaman   2017 May 2, 10:52am  

It does appear that Congress pulled a fast one. The problem with budget riders is that they can't be found and pulled in the time available. Typical dirty tricks

83140   AllTruth   2017 May 2, 11:15am  

tRump Da Nile isn't just a river in Egypt.

83141   joeyjojojunior   2017 May 2, 11:26am  

You really have no idea if Clinton would have signed TPP, increased H2Bs, or increased H1Bs. She is a politician if nothing else and her positions change with the prevailing wind--a wind which was and is very clearly blowing against trade deals and immigrants.

83142   Tenpoundbass   2017 May 2, 11:31am  

This is Trump letting the Idiot retarded Left reverse butt hurt his willingness to go along with the swamp.
They bitch moan and yell about Trump abandoning his campaign promise, so Trump doesn't have to Tweet mean things.
Meanwhile the thing still hasn't made it to his desk. By time it does, the context of what Trump is willing to do or what he said in interviews yesterday, will have changed. That Trump is one smooth operator.
One thing for sure, anyone who thinks they know Trumps plans hasn't been listening to Trump when he says he doesn't like to give out his plans.
So if you force his hand, he will give you information that benefits him, for you to use, as he would expect.

83143   Ceffer   2017 May 2, 11:50am  

Let me guess. You have invested in Al Gore Futures.

83144   Dan8267   2017 May 2, 12:01pm  

Ceffer says

Let me guess. You have invested in Al Gore Futures.

We're all invested in Earth futures.

83145   Dan8267   2017 May 2, 12:03pm  

rando says

Sounds like Congress put that in there, not Trump.

Unless Trump fought it tooth and nail, it's still a betrayal.

83146   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 2, 12:05pm  

It's always the dumb guy outsmarting all of the smart guys. He has the best words. Oh wait, that's not science. That's political elections, which ARE decided based on popular opinion.

83147   anonymous   2017 May 2, 12:18pm  

Now let's glut the labor market more, and drive up housing and lower wages even more to my benefit!" wing, who thinks the past 25 years were divinely wonderful. Nevermind more than 60% of the country lost ground in terms of living standards. Their rental income has never been higher, so fuck the scum.

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And you feel that Trump is an opposing force to this?

83148   missing   2017 May 2, 12:31pm  

Dan8267 says

Unless Trump fought it tooth and nail, it's still a betrayal.

I agree.

I am glad you agree that Obama betrayed those who elected him .

83149   bob2356   2017 May 2, 1:01pm  

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Yeah, Hillary was really going to cut H2Bs, various Guest Worker Programs, and build the wall. She couldn't wait to tell Bezos and Microsoft to suck it, she was cutting H1-Bs. This from the woman who wrote off a good third of the country in order to fire up her base of Viragos, Basic Bitches, Timorous Males, AAFES, and SEIU Shrews.

Last time I checked hillary lost trump won and is president. What hillary would have done is irrelevant to trump screwing his voters. Looks like a severe case of trump ass sucking syndrome going on.

83150   Dan8267   2017 May 2, 1:19pm  

FP says

I am glad you agree that Obama betrayed those who elected him .

I said that when he refused to close Gitmo in his first week.

83151   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 2, 1:32pm  

Hater says

So man made global warming science is not settled YET?

WTF? Is this still going on? This is as infantile as it gets.

83152   HEY YOU   2017 May 2, 1:48pm  

I might live long enough to see deniers & Republicans suffer from global warming,whether they believe that man has an effect on the environment or it's all natural.

YesYNot says

This is as infantile as it gets.

That's what's expected on patnet,from all of us. lmao
Nanny,nanny,Boo Boo!

83153   CBOEtrader   2017 May 2, 2:59pm  

I like this move by trump. Who wouldn't?

83154   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 May 2, 3:38pm  

marcus says

C'mom T-Lips think about it. I'm sure you will come up with some better rationalizations. Apparently T-Lips doesn't know what medicare part D is, or that much of the spending on the Iraq war was off the books before Obama.

Not only do I know what it is, and who passed it, I've mentioned it many times before.

How much money did we spend in Libya and on Syrian "moderate rebels" who couldn't toss their weapons down to ISIS and flee fast enough?

How much money did Obama spend on Jordan's wall? I thought walls never worked and were a waste of money.

83155   anonymous   2017 May 2, 3:48pm  

So Trump is just like Obama? I thought he was the solution to the Obama problem? Yet you justify every single one of his actions by saying obama did the same thing, or Hillary would have done the same thing.

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