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83574   Tenpoundbass   2017 May 14, 8:05am  

Democrats doing their century old favorite past time.

83575   Tenpoundbass   2017 May 14, 8:07am  

They are taking them down because try as they might, the Democrats can't spin History fast enough to bullshit people into believing that it was the Republicans that created the KKK.

Out of sight out of truth. Detroy all History and monuments then Maxine Waters controlls the narrative.

83576   CBOEtrader   2017 May 14, 8:10am  

My university, ranked best university in the south, still has RE Lee's name, statues, both he and his horse Traveler are buried there... confederate flags dot the university.

Noone cared. This is complete garbage.

83577   Blurtman   2017 May 14, 8:25am  

Intentions aside, nothing will be done while corporations are writing the laws and running the country.

83578   CBOEtrader   2017 May 14, 8:54am  

Your question was why are they removing them. They are misguided

83579   Y   2017 May 14, 8:58am  

All historical artifacts.
Libbies pull these down like isis destroys artifacts from conquered territory.
Both are trying to erase history, libbies due to shame from inherited ancestral guilt...

83580   FortWayne   2017 May 14, 9:11am  

BlueSardine says

All historical artifacts.

Libbies pull these down like isis destroys artifacts from conquered territory.

Both are trying to erase history, libbies due to shame from inherited ancestral guilt...

83581   RWSGFY   2017 May 14, 9:14am  

That's either a very big watch or a very small man on that picture.

83582   FortWayne   2017 May 14, 9:15am  

BayArea says

A message to storeowners/employees:

- You must keep your cool with customers as your actions reflect on the business. And remember, we pay taxes to fund local police departments so you could always call them if someone is being disruptive to your business.

As a business owner I don't have to bend over backwards for anyone. You come into my place of business bitching about some emotional bullcrap politically, I'll throw your ass out. Maybe I don't want you as a customer, I don't owe you liberals anything. Don't like it, go spend your welfare check elsewhere.

83583   FortWayne   2017 May 14, 9:17am  

Liberals always trying to rewrite history and draw rainbows on everything. Rainbow crazy people, mentally challenged. I truly feel sorry for them.

83584   BayArea   2017 May 14, 9:37am  

FortWayne says

As a business owner I don't have to bend over backwards for anyone.

Keeping your cool and bending over backwards are not the same thing.

Flipping her off, calling her names, and following her out to the parking lot only helped her case (which was really shitty).

83585   Patrick   2017 May 14, 9:37am  

They do it because it makes them feel good and virtuous.

83586   HEY YOU   2017 May 14, 10:01am  

Well the bitching & moaning snowflakes are out & about running their mouths & doing nothing.
If monuments are removed legally & one doesn't like it,change the law or get the fuck out of America,
CONSTITUTION HATERS!
Leave the monuments standing as an honor to history.
Place new monuments to honor Muslim & Satanist histories along side loser,racist shrines.
Still like FREEDOM?

Action speaks louder than words.
BOYCOTT ALL Republicans!(& redneck white trash who are living in the past).

83587   CBOEtrader   2017 May 14, 10:05am  

HEY YOU says

redneck white trash who are living in the past

You would have been a Nazi in the 30's

83588   joeyjojojunior   2017 May 14, 10:06am  

rando says

They do it because it makes them feel good and virtuous.

Or because they think it's inappropriate to honor some of these people.

83589   joeyjojojunior   2017 May 14, 10:07am  

CBOEtrader says

You would have been a Nazi in the 30's

No--conservatives are the anti-science, book burning party.

83590   CBOEtrader   2017 May 14, 10:31am  

joeyjojojunior says

anti-science, book burning party.

Nazi's were the top scientists in the world. That has nothing to do with why they were evil.

Book burning is relevant. Who is fighting against free speech and wants to destroy historical statues?

The common theme is righteous judgement of another group's ideas as deplorable. If you recall from Mein Kampf, the reason Jews were evil to hitler was because they spread socialism and communism. His racism was an explanation for why the Jews wanted to bring these obviously evil political systems into the forefront.

Today's left is using exactly the same righteous judgement of wrongthinkers today. If they don't agree they are racist/sexist/deplorable and deserve to have their free speech taken away. If they resist they deserve to be violently attacked. You are like the early Nazi's in the early to mid 30's. We are starting to see actual oppression: doxing, firing people for wrong think, not taking on customers for wrongthink, secret enforcement in universities against wrongthink, elimination of history classes because WHITE PEOPLE, shaming and even firing of professors for wrong think, professors openly calling for violence against whitey, celebrities cheering on violence against those NAZI wrong thinkers, openly blaming whitey on MTV and other pop culture shows... as well as actual violence: UT stabbing last week, antifa, Chicago gang kidnap, dozens of random beatdowns by BLM, ... all to the cheers of the left.

Knock it off, you Nazi's.

83591   CBOEtrader   2017 May 14, 10:43am  

HEY YOU says

Republicans!(& redneck white trash who are living in the past).

You display the same righteous virtue-signaling bigotry against wrongthink as the Nazi's. So, I'll say it again. You would have been a Nazi in the 30's

83592   Y   2017 May 14, 10:53am  

Place new monuments next to old outdated monuments so history is recorded not whitewashed to assuage liberal guilt complexes.
Liberals want the past hidden and whitewashed so they are not tempted to repeat it.They need to develop more self control...

HEY YOU says

Place new monuments to honor Muslim & Satanist histories along side loser,racist shrines.

83593   RWSGFY   2017 May 14, 11:43am  

What about 4chan?

83595   joeyjojojunior   2017 May 14, 11:59am  

CBOEtrader says

Who is fighting against free speech and wants to destroy historical statues?

Conservatives. Without a doubt. Which group boycotted a coffee company because they put Happy Holidays on their cups instead of Merry Christmas?

83596   CBOEtrader   2017 May 14, 12:04pm  

joeyjojojunior says

Without a doubt.

You without a doubt you haven't been paying attention. An internet organized boycott is nothing compared to organizing oporession, and violence to stifle 1st amendment rights.

you are proof that propaganda works. keep supporting your nazi overloards.

83597   marcus   2017 May 14, 12:11pm  

I think it's entirely possible to be a liberal in the south and at the same time be sentimental or at least historically appreciative (or interested in) of the confederacy. That is without claiming that they should have won the civil war and while acknowledging that slavery was destined to end. The fact that some racists use the confederate flag as a symbol of white supremacy, should not mean that we all have to see it that way.

IT has historical significance that isn't simple, and a lot of people are descended from people that died on one side or the other.

83598   bob2356   2017 May 14, 12:12pm  

CBOEtrader says

Nazi's were the top scientists in the world. That has nothing to do with why they were evil.

No, germans were the among the top scientists in the world when the nazi's came to power. The nazi's drove out many of their top scientists because they were jewish, many more left that were associated with or sympathized with jewish scientists. There were good scientists that stayed, we scooped most up with operations paperclip, but a lot of the top ones left because of the nazi's.

83599   marcus   2017 May 14, 12:16pm  

bob2356 says

There were good scientists that stayed, we scooped most up with operations paperclip, but a lot of the top ones left because of the nazi's.

Yes. Many were Jews, including Einstein, who stayed here becasue of the Nazis.

83600   Shaman   2017 May 14, 12:39pm  

German people include a lot of high intelligence outliers. I'm mostly German ancestry, but not in the super high intelligence outlier category. There is a reason why Germany almost took over the world twice.

Germany was a haven for Jews for centuries. Might be the higher intelligence bred into the population as Jews intermixed with Germans. I like to think I might have Jewish ancestors.

83601   Tenpoundbass   2017 May 14, 12:40pm  

The law makes no provisions to satisify political curiosity for frivilous edification. If the Never Trump dickheads have any meat to go with those potatoes I sugest they put it up or shut up.
People butt dial their phone all the time. Trump's recorder must have engaged during that second scoop of ice creme. "How did that Comey dinner recording get in there?"

There's no law against Samsung and Apples bad design that made it so easy for digital survailance to be activated so the government can spy on us.
It's just one of those things we all have to live with, with smart phones, you never know who's listening or watching.

Aye Anthony Weinner and James Comey?

83602   CBOEtrader   2017 May 14, 1:54pm  

Tenpoundbass says

There's no law against Samsung and Apples bad design that made it so easy for digital survailance to be activated so the government can spy on us.

It's just one of those things we all have to live with, with smart phones, you never know who's listening or watching.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/amazon-echo-data-evidence-in-murder-case/

Maybe Trump likes jazz music.

83603   Y   2017 May 14, 2:06pm  

Law office clerks arn't suppose to know jack...
bob2356 says

ou are always bragging about working in a law office. You damn well should know this

83604   Dan8267   2017 May 14, 2:27pm  

The real fucked up this is that this woman decided to post her video after watching it at home and seeing how stupid and crazy she and her lies sound.

83605   CBOEtrader   2017 May 14, 2:37pm  

marcus says

"who's you vote for ? Hillary ? Bernie ?"

haha that was just poking the asshole. They could have been a bit nicer, but if I were the store owner id absolutely want them to follow her into the parking lot. She's the type of lunatic who'd slash tires and spray paint walls on the way out.

She 100% deserved an escort off premises.

83606   FortWayne   2017 May 14, 3:03pm  

Dan8267 says

The real fucked up this is that this woman decided to post her video after watching it at home and seeing how stupid and crazy she and her lies sound.

Just want to remind you that that woman...that's your team there Dan.

83607   CBOEtrader   2017 May 14, 3:12pm  

FortWayne says

Dan8267 says

The real fucked up this is that this woman decided to post her video after watching it at home and seeing how stupid and crazy she and her lies sound.

Just want to remind you that that woman...that's your team there Dan.

They left will be disgusted by this lady the same way the average german was disgusted by the hitler youth in the 1930's.

Then these supposed enlightened left will accuse Trump supporters of being racist Nazi's, cheer on the antifa as they punch Richard spencer, and support BLM.... then pretend like they have no idea where this hag insane lady came from. THE LEFT MADE HER WHAT SHE IS. This insane lady is a natural consequence of your group's behavior.

83608   Dan8267   2017 May 14, 3:17pm  

FortWayne says

Dan8267 says

The real fucked up this is that this woman decided to post her video after watching it at home and seeing how stupid and crazy she and her lies sound.

Just want to remind you that that woman...that's your team there Dan.

No, it's YOUR team. She's a conservative leftist, and your team owns the batshit crazy of all conservatives.

We liberals believe that people have the right to fly the racist Confederate Navy Jack that was adopted by the KKK in the 1930s. We also believe that people have the right to turn that flag. We also believe that the KKK has the right to march in the streets, and that people have the right to hold up pictures of lynching to shame the KKK.

This woman is not even remotely liberal. She wants to force her culture onto other people. She makes up lies about other people committing crimes. She tries to silence people who voice objections to her or her position. Those are all trademarked conservative tactics. So you own this batshit crazy, not us liberals.

83609   marcus   2017 May 14, 3:24pm  

CBOEtrader says

They could have been a bit nicer

Giving here the finger ? Calling her a fucking bitch ?

You think ?

83610   Patrick   2017 May 14, 4:13pm  

OK, upvoted!

Wow, more than 7,000 comments. Wish patrick.net threads could get that many. Max I ever got on a post was 2,106 comments.

It's good news for the movie that so many people are talking about it.

83611   HEY YOU   2017 May 14, 8:26pm  

rando says

Wow, more than 7,000 comments. Wish patrick.net threads could get that many. Max I ever got on a post was 2,106 comments.

Other website adherents aren't as intelligent as patnet followers.

83612   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 15, 3:02am  

I believe that there are way too many monuments dedicated to the confederacy. It's good that many of these are coming down. This will not erase history any more than tearing down monuments to Hitler would make people forget about the holocaust.
Aside for the dummies : I didn't say that the Confederates were as bad as Hitler.
Many of these monuments belong in a museum.
Spencer is the nazi version of anti fa. If his team is less violent, it is because they have had many more years to figure out what makes an effective demonstration.

83613   Y   2017 May 15, 5:52am  

'Forgetting' about genocidal events, given enough time, is inevitable.

It was always inevitable that the enormity of the Holocaust would recede in public awareness. The human mind is built to forget; neither individuals nor societies can prevent the intensity of agonizing memories from diminishing over time. In a new book, “In Praise of Forgetting,” David Rieff reflects on King Philip’s War, a murderous conflict between English settlers and Indians in 17th-century New England. On a per capita basis, it was the bloodiest war in American history, and those who survived the carnage must surely have been passionate in their conviction that it never be forgotten.

“And yet,” writes Rieff, “professional historians aside, King Philip’s War is almost never talked about. . . . The historical importance of an event in its own time and in the decades that follow offers no guarantee that it will be remembered in the next century, let alone for many centuries after.”

Sooner or later — sooner, I fear, than later — the same fate will overtake the Holocaust.

Like other terrible eruptions of savagery and slaughter, the Holocaust will become, as it were, “ordinary” history. By now there is evidence aplenty that it is already fading from common knowledge. In 2013, a survey of more than 53,000 respondents in 101 countries found that only 54 percent of the world’s adults had even heard of the Holocaust — and of those, one-third belsieve it is either a myth or has been greatly exaggerated.

Dispiriting as those numbers are, they are bound to grow even worse. As the generation of Holocaust survivors passes away, as Holocaust-deniers spread their poison, as indifference to history takes its inevitable toll, remembrance of the Nazis’ Jewish genocide will dissipate.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/04/30/never-forget-world-said-holocaust-but-world-forgetting/59cUqLNFxylkW7BDuRPgNK/story.html

YesYNot says

I believe that there are way too many monuments dedicated to the confederacy. It's good that many of these are coming down. This will not erase history any more than tearing down monuments to Hitler would make people forget about the holocaust.

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