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rando says

Jews don't pump gas?

I heard that stereotype on Howard Stern back in the 1990s. Stern had a lot of funny bits pushing the envelope at the time. I wonder if you could do a show like his today.

www.youtube.com/embed/yIC7-vJ0PWk

NuttBoxer says

Based on...

Based on the fact that the statues were designed and built to celebrate people who fought a war over state's rights to own slaves if they so wanted. They were appropriate for the population of the south at the time. The confederate flag was used by various people to fight the civil rights movement. It's good to remember, but it's not always good to celebrate everything that people celebrated 150 yrs ago. There are a few things today that we universally find morally abhorrent. Our statues should reflect current values as well as honor our history. I don't believe that those confederate statues reflect our current values.

socal2 says

ISIS tears down statues and tries to erase "pre-Islamic" history too.

Dan8267 says

rando says

Jews don't pump gas?

I heard that stereotype on Howard Stern back in the 1990s. Stern had a lot of funny bits pushing the envelope at the time. I wonder if you could do a show like his today.

www.youtube.com/embed/yIC7-vJ0PWk

Everything is racist and offensive now, but I always find it strange when people can't discern a Jew from a white person.

Guess which one is Trump? Ther's even a wall LOL!
Mike Judge at 1:23

www.youtube.com/embed/ocJ1GTnmO-w

Wut duz that even mean?

Noboday gave a shit about Hillary's crimes, because they don't even know why in the helll people are yelling about peopel talking to people on the otherside of the world when for the last 20 years all they have heard. This is a Global Ecconomy. That's really the hard truth of it. That was why nodody wanted to get worked up over Hillary whether the accusations were true or not, that was no different than what YOUR voters expect in a President. You're just bitching about Trump talking to somebody in the world doesn't translate to any moral law broken in the majority of voters.

But again if the Idiots in Washington have more than their Sniveling petty ass whining they should bringing or sit down and shut up.

I hope ya'll got more than Maxine Waters, a Liberal in a James Brown wig isn't selling it without proof.

Dont they have transcripts of all meetings in the whitehouse? Its not like they met in the basement cigar room of mar lago.

This anonymous tattling shit has proven itself to be very weak.

Who knew it would be the ones screeching about "McCarthyism, never again" for decades, would happily indulge in it. Not against the USSR, which many Democrats frequently apologized for, but the Republic of Russia.

Also, your chart has no evidence. What is that dialogue blurb and the dollar sign specifically?

1. Here is a chart with arrows and unnamed, unspecific quid pro quo
2. ?????
3. Therefore Trump is guilty of being a Putin Stooge.

We definitely need an FBI investigation into why it took Podesta 5 years late to file disclosures about receiving money from the same pro-Russia group that paid Manafort.

Who from Hillary's Team met the Russian Ambassador, and what did they discuss? Investigation NOW!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/13/hillary-clintons-team-met-russian-ambassador-says-kremlin-spokesman/

Trump is the POTUS. Hillary is just a cu.t.

We share info on terrorists all the time, president has a right to discuss it as he finds need

I'm keeping an eye (and ear) on you guys.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-classified-information-russia-intel-white-house-minister-ambassador-lavrov-kislyak-isis-a7737706.html

"Mr Trump went off script and began describing details about an Isis threat related to the use of laptop computers on aircraft.

It said that for anyone in government discussing such matters with an adversary would be illegal. As president, Mr Trump has authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law."

If true, this seems foolish, but its not illegal. Also, we arent being told the entire story. It's impossible to judge this shit from our perspective.

It would seem to strengthen the argument for an investigation into trump though...but im no lawyer

You could do similar graphs with almost all plutocrats in the US toward many other nations.
Clinton Saudis? you bet.
I get that Trump is a clown and probably has some business links to Russia, but this is just propaganda.

Fake news, here is the real story on fox

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/15/white-house-denies-report-trump-revealed-classified-info-about-isis-to-russians.html

You boys try so hard

He is a mendacious cunt, but he is OUR mendacious cunt.

FortWayne says

Fake news, here is the real story on fox

Phew, thank goodness. Don't worry Brietbart will cook something up too. I understand they have connections. Maybe that's why the WH is channeling it through Fox ? Too obvious if it comes through Brietbart.

It sounds like the same story. One side is in hysterics, the other side saying dindu nuffin.

This is madness. Is sharing information about an ISIS terrorist plan confidential or not? Should be a simple yes/no answer.

We put up with Bushtard and Obummer for 16 years, we can deal with Trumps for 4-8 depending on what kind of crazy the dems push next.

Can we just elect rand paul next time please?

I think Trump has shown he doesnt want to drain the swamp how he promised. Unfortunately I still cant think of many politicians I'd rather have in that office. Neocons are evil. The moderate left are just neocons w better PR. Socialism is the wrong path.

Rand Paul is the only option remaining.

Love how the WH pulled the transcript of the meeting from internal wires immediately after the consults with NSA and CIA.

Every time I see junior engineers bragging or dishing secret product info in the office it all boils down to them wanting to seem important, be in the know, and be liked.

Remind you of anyone?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/05/trump-mcmaster-white-house-denies-washington-post-report-classified-russians

This goes straight to the point. "At no time were intelligence sources or methods discussed, and the president did not discuss any military operations that were not already publicly known." Mcmaster.

YET...

"The Post story did not ever say that "intelligence sources or methods" were discussed, but that Trump revealed tightly held secret information that was provided by a US partner, and that the revelation would likely allow Russian intelligence agents to determine intelligence sources and methods independently."

So, again, we have no credible source of information in the MSM... Do you see why Alex Jones gets so many listeners? Which spin do you believe?

CBOEtrader says

It sounds like the same story. One side is in hysterics, the other side saying dindu nuffin.

This is madness. Is sharing information about an ISIS terrorist plan confidential or not? Should be a simple yes/no answer.

It's confidential if you divulge confidential information. It's especially bad if you give it to opposing states who can unpack the information to likely "sources and means".

Trump should take over the press briefings to clear this up. ;)

The WH has zero credibility. They burnt it all away already.

Rew says

The WH has zero credibility. They burnt it all away already.

Neither does the MSM

I'm with Jazz. Loose lips sink ships. Guy cannot even get out of his own way to capitalize on his party stranglehold. Poor GOP. They must be so sad right now. Bet you McCain is ready to call him a traitor.

Rew says

Loose lips sink ships.

Ah, you've convicted him based on reports from the same press that never gives him a moment of objective reporting. Good idea.

Wall not Fence!
Fuck Trump. Go Pence.

(giggle)

rando says

reports from the same press that never gives him a moment of objective reporting.

It's too negative, therefore it can't be objective. Great logic there !

With objective reporting, nothing is ever negative. For example if you're going to report a scientist predicting doom from global warming, it's not objective unless you can find another scientist that says it's nothing to worry about, and to the extent it is true, it has nothing to do with Co2 we pump in to the atmosphere.

Reality must always be reported in a balanced way such as this. Fox news, fair and balanced (â„¢) .

rando says

Ah, you've convicted him based on reports from the same press that never gives him a moment of objective reporting. Good idea

Muslim ban : No go. Trump's big mouth
Comey : Disaster! Trump's big mouth.

The precedent for Trump being a bloviating braggart is beyond well established. The precedent for him being a liar, and his surrogates lying willfully or out of ignorance is beyond concrete.

So it is believe the WH or the mainstream press ... who make their living off of telling the truth (as well as OP pieces.)

Your darn right I believe WaPo.

The elephant in the room is that Trump, as president, has the final say as to what is classified and what is not. Other than nuclear secrets the president at any time can announce classified information as declassifued.
The while fucking thing is yet another successful troll of the press by trump.

I see that liberal but hurt is strong here. Grow up and get over it.

You used to be funny.

7 years 7 months of future libbie torture to look forward to. All the accusations. All the hysteria. Firing blanks is becoming a favorite libbie pastime...

BlueSardine says

Heres a secret. Any non nuclear information trump reveals is by definition not classified.

Trump has the last word on what is classified and what is not.

Its impossible for trump to reveal non nuclear classified information.

This whole thread is based fake news...

The problem is that Trump is making an enormous judgement call... in an area where he doesnt have the best knowledge. Trump is one of those people who thinks he knows a lot more than he knows.

That makes him easy potentially easy to manipulate. So... its a problem.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

On the one hand, the Precedent handed secrets to global power adversaries it will use to thwart US interests abroad.

More like Trump just did what he accused Comey of doing. Trump decided he would declassify ISIS info to help his new friends dodge a terrorist attack. His ego took over. In that moment he probably thought he was the most noble knight in all the land...

Ego is dangerous.

Irrelevant. Trump is the president. By definition it is impossible for him to divulge classified secrets that have nothing to do with our nuclear deterrent.
CBOEtrader says

The problem is that Trump is making an enormous judgement call... in an area where he doesnt have the best knowledge.

BlueSardine says

Irrelevant.

Im not making a legal case, but rather a utilitarian one. Its not a good thing to have a needy ego feeding itself via diplomacy.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

CBOEtrader says

Trump decided he would declassify ISIS info to help his new friends dodge a terrorist attack.

To impress his twink crush Putin who he wants to fuck him in the ass.

wait a second... are you sure trump would be the bitch, and putin the butch?

Eject. I think he wants out as soon as possible anyway. If it can happen in a way where he can claim he was screwed over by the elite, all the better. Then he and Bannon go take over the right wing media world. It's much more fitting of Trumps personality. This being President is way too stressful. Too high stakes. Although I'm sure it has been fun getting this much attention.

My only regret is Gav Christie wasn't named the House Press Secretary.