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"Are you really incapable of answering this yourself?"

Whoa now. YOU said they didn't have all the facts. Any reasonable person would interpret that to mean that there are facts that you are aware of that the MSM didn't have.

So which facts did the MSM not know about? Please detail them. Otherwise it's just another in a long list of CBOE lies.

joeyjojojunior says

"Are you really incapable of answering this yourself?"

Whoa now. YOU said they didn't have all the facts. Any reasonable person would interpret that to mean that there are facts that you are aware of that the MSM didn't have.

So which facts did the MSM not know about? Please detail them. Otherwise it's just another in a long list of CBOE lies.

It's offical. JJ is a troll. GJ champ!

"Has anyone worked in a news room? Please speak up and explain how an anonymous source can be quoted by 8 different outlets."

Are you kidding me? The same source probably texted all the outlets and said here's the quote you can run with. Do you think this is rocket science?

"It's offical. JJ is a troll. GJ champ!"

lol--I see. Asking you to back up your BS is now considered trolling?

joeyjojojunior says

Are you kidding me? The same source probably texted all the outlets and said here's the quote you can run with. Do you think this is rocket science?

Umm ok.

CBOEtrader says

Do you think the anonymous source spoke to every MSM outlet?

http://theresurgent.com/i-know-one-of-the-sources/

This is the same old story. Trump does what he wants and doesn't listen to his advisers. The advisers leak to the press as a way of communicating how important something is to him.

joeyjojojunior says

"It's offical. JJ is a troll. GJ champ!"

lol--I see. Asking you to back up your BS is now considered trolling?

Do you think you know all the relevant facts? Do you think you knew all the relevant facts 20 minutes after this broke?

Only a handful of people in the world could say yes to either. So, for all of us, the answer is NO to both. We maybe know 10% of relevant facts now, and knew perhaps 2% when the story broke. Ofc, this itself is a judgement, so fill in your own numbers.

The question remains: do you think it is appropriate to judge a situation in which we know so few of the relevant facts? How about once we factor in the anonymous source as ONLY SPEAKING TO WashPo? At what point do you find totally ambiguous, anonymously sourced, copy-cat hysterics to be irrational?

Some of us like to think critically, which means admitting we cant possibly know enough to judge this situation properly.

lostand confused says

joeyjojojunior says

Are you kidding me? The same source probably texted all the outlets and said here's the quote you can run with. Do you think this is rocket science?

Umm ok.

R u fucking kidding? The source committed a felony, or at the very least would lose his career if caught... and the NSA knows everything.

No way this guy is stupid enough to send a mass text. LOLZ

Well! I...uh,who are you? Where am I?
Who lives in this big white house?

Everyone that owns an equity at closing bell on the date it goes ex-div, are paid the dividend, regardless how long they hold the stock. You can sell at open the next day and you're still going to get paid. AFAIK this applies to all dividend paying equities, the same way. Edit: close

https://www.sec.gov/fast-answers/answers-dividenhtm.html

"R u fucking kidding? The source committed a felony, or at the very least would lose his career if caught... and the NSA knows everything. No way this guy is stupid enough to send a mass text. LOLZ"

Depends on what he said. What felony did he commit exactly? Trump declassified all the info already, right?

joeyjojojunior says

Trump declassified all the info already, right?

If its not illegal, he would certainly be fired. Regardless, this source needs to stay anonymous.

Do you really think he texted the MSM outlets? Does anyone know how this went down?

You guys have an idea in your head-that Hilalry hatched-and tie everything to it. The craziness is just bizarre-have fun.

The only thing Trump mentioned was the Laptop Threat, something the TSA announced to the public, banning laptops for MENA flights back 2 months ago.
https://www.wired.com/2017/03/tsas-new-ban-laptops-cabins-may-not-worst-thing/

Rumor is the info in the leak to Wapo includes far, far, more detail than Trump ever discussed with Lavrov . The leaker is disseminating OTHER national security secrets that were not even discussed at the meeting.

"If its not illegal, he would certainly be fired. Regardless, this source needs to stay anonymous. Do you really think he texted the MSM outlets? Does anyone know how this went down?"

The point is it is VERY easy to give the same quote to multiple media outlets.

"The info in the leak to Wapo includes far, far, more detail than Trump discussed with Lavrov. The leaker is disseminating OTHER national security secrets that were not even discussed at the meeting."

Bullshit. You have no idea in hell.

"Nope, but apparently there is a rumor this is the case. If so, an investigation must begin immediately; obviously the WaPo did not vet their anonymous source."

Sounds great. It was a member of Trump's inner circle. Let's appoint a special counsel and he/she can investigate Trump's ties to Russia as well as which member of Trump's inner circle is leaking.

joeyjojojunior says

Bullshit. You have no idea in hell.

Kind of like the evidence linking Trump and Russia, ie a complete and total lack, even the weakest circumstantial pieces, like the Trump Servers communicating with Russian Banks that turned out to be Marketing Spam sent to Wealthy Russians

However, the evidence Hillary mishandled classified emails, that Huma left classified emails on the personal computer (strike 1) of a suspected sex offender (strike 2), is firm. The fact Podesta Group filed 5 years late about being paid to lobby by pro-Russian Ukrainian Group, the same one that paid Manafort who was investigated, is also firmly evidenced by their own filings. That needs an investigation.

The Podesta email about getting all leakers and the daytime, robbery-free murder of Rich is also deserving of an investigation.

Here's the official explanation from The White House:

Last Wednesday, President Donald J. Trump met with the Russian Foreign Minister and discussed counterterrorism and the common civil aviation security threats to the United States and Russia. Senior cabinet and national security advisors were present at the exchange between the President and Foreign Minister and agree that the conversations were appropriate, legitimate, and an important part of America’s efforts to combat the global terrorist threat. At no time during the meeting were any sources, methods, or military operations jeopardized. Civil aviation threats are real and there is nothing more important to President Trump than the safety and security of the American people.

"Kind of like the evidence linking Trump and Russia, ie a complete and total lack, even the weakest circumstantial pieces, like the Trump Servers communicating with Russian Banks that turned out to be Marketing Spam sent to Wealthy Russians"

No, nothing like that.

1. We don't know what the evidence is as the FBI hasn't disclosed what they have found.
2. The Trump Servers didn't turn out to be Marketing Spam. That is one possible explanation, albeit an explanation that doesn't seem to fit the facts. Again. Another reason for a special counsel to investigate and get to the bottom of it. Why are the Republicans fighting it?

What do they have to hide?

Dan8267 says

bob2356 says

You have to be at war with a country to commit treason.

The United States is in a constant state of war with everyone else.

A declared war. The kind where congress votes on a formal declaration of war not a resolution for the use of military force. Article 1 section 8 of the constitution.

"Nope. There's been no evidence since investigations began into Trump and his Associates in July of last year, about 300 days ago. At this point, there is no evidence, and all circumstantial leads have been shown to be fruitless."

And you know this how? Have you seen what the FBI has found?

So Trump gave one enemies information to another, who cares.

Nothing secret here. TSA announced laptop restrictions on aviation from the MENA months ago.

CBOEtrader says

we can NOT definitively judge Trump's decision w hysterics.

I don't see hysterics. I see another data point.

People such as David Brooks reacting so strongly (with his piece about Trumps childishness) are showing a pent up disappointment. It's not just this, it's not just Comey firing and this. It's Not just the crazy tweets, the Comey firing and this. It accumulates and unfortunately will continue to accumulate. It's the trend that people are reacting to so strongly. Not one thing.

But it's true that his supporters aren't there yet. But more and more you're going to be hearing from all the conservatives that were reluctant supporters in the first place.

CBOEtrader says

Knowing less than all relevant facts is enough to make a hysterical judgement to you? Got it.

Some of us like to think critically.

So where was all this critical thinking and waiting for relevant facts when Obama was president? It's different now some how?

Is that what this is all about? I thought it was because Trump gave Russia 3 scoops of ice cream.

Fun things on Twitter right now ...

A German Paper:

This Tweet:
WaPo: The president shat himself.
White House: The president would never shit himself.
Trump: I SHAT MYSELF ON PURPOSE

Every. Fucking. Day.

bob2356 says

So where was all this critical thinking and waiting for relevant facts when Obama was president? It's different now some how?

But but ...

OBAMA WIRE TAPPED TRUMP!
BENGHAZI!
BIRTH CERTIFICATE!
SECRET MUSLIM!
SHE SMELLS OF SULFUR AND DEATH!

(laughing my ass off)

When facts and truth are on your side, what more can you do but laugh your ass off.

(my best Anderson Cooper eye roll goes here)

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Nothing secret here. TSA announced laptop restrictions on aviation from the MENA months ago.

So you have the full transcript of what was said and discussed? I'd like to read it. Post it here please.

Rew says

So you have the full transcript of what was said and discussed? I'd like to read it. Post it here please.

So you have the full transcript of what was said and discussed? I'd like to read it. Post it here please.

:-)

Hah! Troll methodology never changes!

rando says

So you have the full transcript of what was said and discussed? I'd like to read it. Post it here please.

It has been requested by Senate Intel Committee. :) We are waiting. (tapping feet). We are also waiting for the Comey tapes. (tap tap tap)
Say it with me Patrick: Tapes, Transcripts, and Taxes

Since Trump declassified what was talked about the transcripts can become public knowledge, right? We should just get those out in the open now. Nothing to hide. :)

Trump probably couldn't hold onto the Presidency with a single one of the "Ts" above, released.

Driving public policy.

Straw Man says

By doing what? Driving Suburbans?

By preventing humanity from uniting against a systemic threat and taking action so we can survive.

Rew says

Trump probably couldn't hold onto the Presidency with a single one of the "Ts" above, released.

I think that the personal taxes wouldn't be that informative. He would have to include the tax reports of all of the companies he holds majority share in.

His strange behavior is increasing interest in these things that people would otherwise let pass.rando says

So you have the full transcript of what was said and discussed?

People in his own administration are leaking things to the press. Why do you suppose this is if not for genuine concern. Conservatives are stating that this was a leak from a long time Trump supporter.

Phillipines-is it safe with that Duerte guy in power??

Being confirmed in news now, the additional information Trump shared was: city of origination of the ISIS threat and some details of our counter operations.

Straw Man says

By doing what? Driving Suburbans?

If one person drives a Suburban 15K miles a year, it's not going to end the world. If everybody does it, it will make a dent. Same goes for frequent air travel.

It's kind of like voting. If one person votes for Trump, nothing happens. If millions do it, we have a circus.

CBOEtrader says

In dan's mind antifa, Youtube/Google/FB, SJW's, ISIS, top universities banning offensive course content, and every western liberal democracy with anti-hate speech laws are all conservatives.

Actually, no. And you don't get to decide what my position is. I do.

Also, there are no democracies in the world today. Really, do I have to explain that?