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84465   Ceffer   2017 Jun 17, 5:57pm  

Do you have any Love Knocks in your trench coat?

84466   Dan8267   2017 Jun 17, 6:45pm  

Ceffer says

Fucking a garbage can isn't half bad. It's licking it to get if aroused that really sucks.

No, you're thinking of Hillary Clinton.

84467   anonymous   2017 Jun 17, 7:45pm  

I don't quite get the tax complication ? Do you do your own taxes?

84468   HEY YOU   2017 Jun 17, 9:57pm  

I don't need any of them.
"I high on life."

84469   HEY YOU   2017 Jun 18, 12:54am  

Goran_K says

Quigleys personal character.

Patnetters have no character!

84470   BayArea   2017 Jun 18, 7:00am  

just_passing_through says

I've never sold a house so far and have just been a purchaser. Does anyone know if its true that when you sell a house the profits are not capital gains; they are regular income? A mix of both?

If it's your primary residence, you pay no taxes on capital gains up to $250,000 if single and $500,000 if married.

If it's a rental, you pay capital gains taxes on every dollar of profit (minus carried over loses, sales related costs, etc)

84471   Y   2017 Jun 18, 7:57am  

Otoh, all will be forgiven with the forecast of another successful stockpick.
Capitalism. Don't you just love it?

84472   Dan8267   2017 Jun 18, 1:19pm  

jazz music says

The definitive explanation of why you should ignore talk radio addicts here and everywhere else you may go.

Actually, no. This is not a reason to ignore idiots and the falsehoods they spread. It's a reason to force those idiots to bear the consequences of their mistakes or lies. The wildebeest who kept saying log should have been made to walk on the "log". Similarly, the idiots who say climate change isn't happening should be made to pay for the costs of climate change.

The problem with ignoring idiots is that they get more and more power the more they are ignored instead of opposed. Then you get a Hitler, an idiot who kills millions, because rational people just chose to ignore the problem while it was small and solvable.

Idiots are problems. Ignoring problems is never the answer. Ignored problems fester and grow. They become big problems.

84473   Bellingham Bill   2017 Jun 18, 3:08pm  

SubOink says

I don't quite get the tax complication ? Do you do your own taxes?

MLPs are odd beasts in that you become a part business owner wrt income etc.

"The K-1s I receive for holdings in my IRA I typically file. It's a round file on the floor next to my desk that Waste Management conveniently picks up each week. Not much hassle there. Should I exceed the $1,000 UBTI limit in a single IRA account (unlikely), and my broker fails to send me the appropriate 990-T form (not really sure how likely since it's never happened), and I get audited (has also never happened), and the auditor notices the lack of a necessary 990-T form reporting UBTI (hard to notice what is not there, but I guess that's what they get paid for), if all those happen together, I guess I will just have to pay the fine."

https://seekingalpha.com/article/882601-dont-be-afraid-to-put-mlps-in-your-ira

84474   Booger   2017 Jun 18, 3:24pm  

I tried fucking a garbage can earlier today. Totally unsatisfying!

84475   Dan8267   2017 Jun 18, 3:35pm  

Booger says

I tried fucking a garbage can earlier today. Totally unsatisfying!

That's what everyone says about Ann Coulter.

84476   PeopleUnited   2017 Jun 18, 8:13pm  

eBay started by selling Pez dispensers, Maybe PatNet's claim to fame will become illegal sales of prescription medications.

84477   Ceffer   2017 Jun 18, 8:57pm  

Do you have your malpractice policy up to date, in case whoever receives and takes the medicine has an adverse reaction?

84478   Y   2017 Jun 19, 5:11am  

This is rather obvious, which leads me to conclude ..

https://patrick.net/1307352/2017-06-17-i-have-to-legally-sell-30-doses-of-sealed-150mg-lovenox-that-expires-on-1-18-expensive-drug?c=1420344#comment-1420344

anonymous says

I would like to see the statute or guidelines that cause you to believe you have a "legal" ground to sell this unused prescription.

84479   anonymous   2017 Jun 19, 9:08am  

just_passing_through says

I've always done my own taxes. Sort of a control freak in that way I guess.

I get it - my version is that I do my own bookkeeping with QB's for personal and Corp. But then I send that file off to the accountant who handles the rest and together we discuss financial moves forward. Accountant sends me back the finished return for review and done. I can highly recommend using a pro for this as it can be crucial. That is if you have somebody good.

84480   SoTex   2017 Jun 19, 8:20pm  

I think that's very good advice. I should probably pony up for some pro-tips. I'm not a kid anymore and can afford it....

84481   curious2   2017 Jun 20, 12:19am  

Credit where it's due, you did warn about this issue, but on a shorter timeframe. I commented in a different thread about the latest report, will copy&paste here:

“If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers.”

In America, neither major party has provided any useful answer to the question that matters: how to manage the climate.

"Seventy-four percent of the world's population will be exposed to deadly heatwaves by 2100 if carbon gas emissions continue to rise at current rates, according to a study published in Nature Climate Change. Even if emissions are aggressively reduced, the percent of the world's human population affected is expected to reach 48 percent."

Democrats propose spending vast fortunes on corrupt patronage networks, basically expanding and exploiting the issue rather than addressing it. Their proposals would transfer enormous wealth away from advanced countries that could actually develop climate management systems, empowering instead backwards religious kleptocracies and kickback schemes.

Republicans tend to deny climate change, so the argument tends to stay there.

Even among many independents, e.g. the green party, the issue seems tinged with anti-capitalism, white guilt, patriarchy-bashing, and original sin. Geo-engineering is derided as further man-made interference with mother nature.

"Everybody Talks About the Weather, But Nobody Does Anything About It."

I don't see the point of obsessing over future climate without proposing any realistic way of managing it.

84482   lostand confused   2017 Jun 20, 6:04am  

The Paris accord would have stopped all this and taken us back to normal?

84483   lostand confused   2017 Jun 20, 6:33am  

anonymous says

L&C - I think this is beyond politics at this point and no, I

What I am trying to say, is these hyped up things are what is hurting the cause. if you are throwing away trillions , while our competitors give up nothing-for a negligible outcome-then it does not help.
Calling your opponents sub-human is not going to attract them to your cause.

84484   Tenpoundbass   2017 Jun 20, 6:52am  

curious2 says

I don't see the point of obsessing over future climate without proposing any realistic way of managing it.

Bingo my number resistance stance to Predatory Liberals looking to capitalize on any crisis.
Real imaginary or otherwise.

84485   Ceffer   2017 Jun 20, 7:37am  

KILL THE DENIERS! KILL THEM ALL!

84486   komputodo   2017 Jun 20, 7:41am  

Tenpoundbass says

curious2 says

I don't see the point of obsessing over future climate without proposing any realistic way of managing it.

Bingo my number resistance stance to Predatory Liberals looking to capitalize on any crisis.

Real imaginary or otherwise.

Weren't we told to buy LED lights for our house and park a Prius in the garage? That in itself will buy us another 100 years.

84487   Dan8267   2017 Jun 20, 7:42am  

Tenpoundbass says

Bingo my number resistance stance to Predatory Liberals looking to capitalize on any crisis.

Real imaginary or otherwise.

More bullshit propaganda. I stand not to make a single cent by ending pollution and preparing for climate change, yet I'm for these things because the alternative is to fuck over ourselves and future generations. How the fuck am I "capitalizing" on climate change?

Meanwhile, polluters are literally stealing from us and our children. That's capitalizing on other people's pain.

#tpbLies

84488   komputodo   2017 Jun 20, 7:46am  

Dan8267 says

More bullshit propaganda. I stand not to make a single cent by ending pollution and preparing for climate change, yet I'm for these things because the alternative is to fuck over ourselves and future generations. How the fuck am I "capitalizing" on climate change?

What does that mean specifically, "yet I'm for these things"? What are you doing to save the world from "climate change"? Creating awareness? LOL. The 98% of people in the world that live hand to mouth don't give a fuck.

84489   Dan8267   2017 Jun 20, 7:54am  

komputodo says

What are you doing to save the world from "climate change"?

What the fuck do you think any common American citizen can do about policy?
1. Talk about the problem and solutions.
2. Advocate good policies.
3. Vote for politicians who vote for good polices and against politicians who vote for bad policies.
4. Spread good ideas.
5. Counter misinformation with facts.

You're philosophy of "the everyday man has no power and therefore should disconnect from politics" is just plain stupid. Do I have to explain why?

komputodo says

The 98% of people in the world that live hand to mouth don't give a fuck.

From the World Food Program, Climate Impact on Food Security

Among the most significant impacts of climate change is the potential increase of food insecurity and malnutrition.

Climate change increases the frequency and intensity of some disasters such as droughts, floods and storms. This has an adverse impact on livelihoods and food security. Climate-related disasters have the potential to destroy crops, critical infrastructure, and key community assets, therefore deteriorating livelihoods and exacerbating poverty.

Sea-level will rise as a result of climate change, affecting livelihoods in coastal areas and river deltas. Accelerated glacial melt will also affect the quantity and reliability of water available and change patterns of flooding and drought.

Changes in climatic conditions have already affected the production of some staple crops, and future climate change threatens to exacerbate this. Higher temperatures will have an impact on yields while changes in rainfall could affect both crop quality and quantity.

Climate change could increase the prices of major crops in some regions. For the most vulnerable people, lower agricultural output means lower incomes. Under these conditions, the poorest people — who already use most of their income on food — sacrifice additional income and other assets to meet their nutritional requirements, or resort to poor coping strategies.

Climate-related risks affect calorie intake, particularly in areas where chronic food insecurity is already a significant problem. Changing climatic conditions could also create a vicious cycle of disease and hunger. Nutrition is likely to be affected by climate change through related impacts on food security, dietary diversity, care practices and health.

The climatic variability produced by more frequent and intense weather events can upset the stability of individuals’ and government food security strategies, creating fluctuations in food availability, access and utilization.

Your willful spreading of ignorance, apathy, and misinformation is going to kill millions. The best thing you can do for the world is to shut up.

84490   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Jun 20, 8:14am  

1. Less people. No potential future tech needed.
1b. Sign up Girls 15-25 for Depo-Provera Shots, aggressive campaigning in HS around the country, esp in poor ass areas. $250 cash for each quarterly shot (MUCH cheaper than Food Stamps, HUD, Medicaid, and eventually Prison for the future bastards)
2. Stop taking low CO2 emitting third worlders and bringing them to high CO2 emitting countries - stop third world immigration
2b. CUT food and med aid to the Third World.
3. More density
4. POV fees gradually rising to $20k per year. Cars are the most difficult problem.
5. Renewables are doable. But switching to Renewables WHILE adding tens of millions of EVs is NOT doable, not to mention the massive pollution involved with Rare Earth refining.
6. 3+ and 4 Gen Nuclear Reactor Investment

84491   anonymous   2017 Jun 20, 8:24am  

Republicans tend to deny climate change, so the argument tends to stay there.

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Why are all the "Independent's" and Republicans in lockstep on this? I mean, everyone knows pollution is bad, and the adverse effects impact everyone, everywhere. Is it the abandonment of reason, in exchange for blind faith, that Christianity demands of them? Love thy brother. Heaven is a place on Earth. If God gave us all that is good on Gods Green Earth, why do they seem so hell bent on aiding and abetting the destruction? Are they intentionally trying to bring about the Rapture?

Islamic terrorists could never dream up such a wide reaching jihad, as the Christian mission to literally destroy the planet. Maybe a more important question, is 'Are their actions derived from Free Will, or have they been brainwashed to act this way?'

84492   komputodo   2017 Jun 20, 9:01am  

Dan8267 says

You're philosophy of "the everyday man has no power and therefore should disconnect from politics" is just plain stupid. Do I have to explain why?

I think you do need to explain why. Explain why people that live in the Bay Area believe that the rest of the world population who live hand to mouth would actually care what they think let alone follow their lead. You should spend a few years in a third world country like I have, where people just throw their garbage anywhere and have been doing it for generations even though they run commercials on TV asking them to quit. Where they pour waste oil and chemicals on the ground in the nearest vacant lot, where they burn fields after the harvest, where they release HVAC gases to the open air. Where you can buy concentrated acids and amonia at the hardware store. Where people still use firewood to cook with.
Nobody is saying that pollution is good. It's just that arguing about it on PATNET sure as hell isn't going to change anything.
Please don't even mentions FINES. The police just take bribes and pocket the money.
I made my point and didn't even call you "stupid".

84493   socal2   2017 Jun 20, 9:04am  

errc says

Why are all the "Independent's" and Republicans in lockstep on this? I mean, everyone knows pollution is bad,

Yeah - but we are talking about Carbon Dioxide. Otherwise known as plant food and the gas we exhale from our lungs. Kind of weird how CO2 is considered "pollution" when it is vital for the existence of Life on our planet.

Anyhoo - yesterday brought news that the Climate doom monger's models are wrong again. Even Michael Mann contributed to this paper.

"In the early twenty-first century, satellite-derived tropospheric warming trends were generally smaller than trends estimated from a large multi-model ensemble"
https://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ngeo2973.html

The climate models are ALWAYS wrong. But we are to believe the latest prediction about the year 2100?

Talk about having religious faith!

84494   HEY YOU   2017 Jun 20, 9:30am  

errc says

Republicans tend to deny climate change, so the argument tends to stay there.

-------------

Why are all the "Independent's" and Republicans in lockstep on this? I mean, everyone knows pollution is bad, and the adverse effects impact everyone, everywhere. Is it the abandonment of reason, in exchange for blind faith, that Christianity demands of them? Love thy brother. Heaven is a place on Earth. If God gave us all that is good on Gods Green Earth, why do they seem so hell bent on aiding and abetting the destruction? Are they intentionally trying to bring about the Rapture?

Islamic terrorists could never dream up such a wide reaching jihad, as the Christian mission to literally destroy the planet. Maybe a more important question, is 'Are their actions derived from Free Will, or have they been brainwashed to act this way?'

TELL 'EM!

84496   Dan8267   2017 Jun 20, 11:05am  

komputodo says

I think you do need to explain why.

www.youtube.com/embed/HzEifN4xt18

When people do not oppose evil, you get the Holocaust, Darfur, ISIS, honor killings, and the lost of liberty.

The fact is that the problems our nation faces, including climate change, are not technologically or administratively difficult to solve. The only reason these problems exist is the lack of political will to solve them. And that is why the common man needs to demand policy change. The one and only thing the common man can really do in our society is foster the political will necessary to make wise policy.

But if you don't believe in the value of this and want people to stop talking policy and politics, then lead by example and shut up.

komputodo says

Explain why people that live in the Bay Area believe that the rest of the world population who live hand to mouth would actually care what they think let alone follow their lead.

We don't need poor countries in Africa to cut coal emissions. We need the United States to. If you don't understand why, then you don't understand this subject matter at all. The U.S. has caused more pollution and climate change than all other nations combined. So yes, it does matter what we do. The other major countries that can make a difference are willing to do so. So again, it matters what we do. This is not politics. It's the difference between foolishness and wisdom.

I don't give two shits about your stupid cultural war with hippies. I don't care whether you like NASCAAR or the Beatles. You stupid fucking cultural preferences don't matter. This isn't about culture wars. Climate change is about science, engineering, and basing our policies so that we don't destroy the very ecosystem that we are completely dependent upon.

There are no honest economic arguments that support polluting and uncontrolled climate change. The cost of these problems is several order of magnitudes more than avoiding the problems, and it's only getting worse. It is nothing but the short-sighted greed of the few that causes us to ignore this problem. You and your family will be poorer because of climate change. You are not saving yourself money. You are costing yourself and everyone else a lot of wealth. So even if wealth is all you care about, it still makes no sense to destroy the vast majority of wealth our species possesses, which is our environment, and I mean that in dollars. The cost of transforming Earth after fucking it up is far greater than the cost of not fucking it up. The lost economic productivity of fucking up the Earth is greater than the cost of not fucking up the Earth.

#shortsightedFoolishness

84497   RWSGFY   2017 Jun 20, 11:25am  

Dan8267 says

We don't need poor countries in Africa to cut coal emissions. We need the United States to. If you don't understand why, then you don't understand this subject matter at all. The U.S. has caused more pollution and climate change than all other nations combined.

Notice the same switch that clown (John Oliver?) also uses: when subject of US being lesser polluter now than some other countries he promptly goes for "but in the past US polluted more". The past is the past. US economy is now much cleaner than the most of the rest of the world, so it's them who need to catch the fuck up.

84498   komputodo   2017 Jun 20, 11:42am  

Dan8267 says

We don't need poor countries in Africa to cut coal emissions. We need the United States to. If you don't understand why, then you don't understand this subject matter at all.

Well I don't live in the USA anymore and I don't burn coal. Therefore, I shall leave it in your capable hands to save the world with your rhetoric.

84499   socal2   2017 Jun 20, 11:51am  

Straw Man says

The past is the past. US economy is now much cleaner than the most of the rest of the world, so it's them who need to catch the fuck up.

Yep - and we are going to help the biggest polluters like China and India reduce their carbon output with our natural gas exports.. Those evil US oil industry capitalists and frackers will do more to reduce the world's carbon emissions in the next 20 years than all of the European windmills and solar panels combined!

But Dan think the US owes the world reparations or something.......

It's almost as if the American Left are in cahoots with Putin and China. We need an investigation!

84500   curious2   2017 Jun 20, 12:08pm  

errc says

Why are all the "Independent's" and Republicans in lockstep on this?

As I wrote above and before, they're not. That isn't the problem.

The problem is none of the four largest parties proposes any actual solution. The Democrats and Greens wail about warming and tear their hair and gnash their teeth that the end of the world is nigh, and Democrats demand you pay more taxes to their corrupt patronage networks including global foundations, but they don't propose any solution. To the contrary, in 2016 Democrats campaigned on war between the USA and Russia, which would cause hugely adverse environmental consequences, although you could argue nuclear winter might alleviate global warming. The Libertarians apply the Hippocratic oath to government, but not each other. The Republicans make everything worse, actually subsidizing the most polluting industries. Those are all different policy choices, not lockstep at all.

If it makes you feel virtuous to tear your hair out and gnash your teeth, then go ahead, but don't pretend you're accomplishing anything until you can point to a geo-engineering system that could actually solve the problem. Please don't waste your breath blaming people for not joining the "end of the world is nigh and there's nothing to be done about it" chorus. Doom and gult sell, from Isaiah 3k years ago to AGW today, because human nature has not changed. Science advances, but those who would impair the advanced countries to subsidize and empower backwards kleptocracies are not helping. At least some of the independents can see that both major parties make the problem worse, while one adds insult to injury by pretending to make it better and expecting you to believe.

84501   BoomAndBustCycle   2017 Jun 20, 12:41pm  

Why I bought a house with a swimming pool... spent yesterday in 101 degree valley heat without breaking a sweat!

84502   RWSGFY   2017 Jun 20, 12:53pm  

BoomAndBustCycle says

Why I bought a house with a swimming pool... spent yesterday in 101 degree valley heat without breaking a sweat!

Amen, brother!

84503   Dan8267   2017 Jun 20, 1:27pm  

Straw Man says

Notice the same switch that clown (John Oliver?) also uses: when subject of US being lesser polluter now than some other countries he promptly goes for "but in the past US polluted more". The past is the past.

So, then you aren't for going after terrorists that did their crimes "in the past"? That's foolish.

It's also a dumb as shit argument because pollution doesn't suddenly cease after it has been released. It lingers in the environment for centuries. So America's "past" pollution is presently still in the environment and fucking things up. The polluters should be charged for the cleanup costs, which measures in the hundred of trillions. That's why polluting doesn't make economic sense.

But then again, the conservative right has always been piss poor at running businesses, so why would they be good at the business of environmental management?

Straw Man says

US economy is now much cleaner than the most of the rest of the world

That's bullshit.


And China has 4.5 times the population of the U.S.

Facts are a bitch, aren't they?

84504   Dan8267   2017 Jun 20, 1:29pm  

socal2 says

But Dan think the US owes the world reparations or something.......

No, I think climate change deniers like YOU owe the world reparations. If you promote policies that increase pollution, you are as liable for its costs as the polluters. Pollution is theft, plain and simple, and you thieves should have to pay back your victims just like any criminal.

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