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A couple of you have said that "cash will be king"

I certainly hope so.

I have rented in California, Ohio, Nebraska, and England. All good houses with good landlords. However, I always moved some distance after each rental, and lost some deposits, even though I left the properties better than I found them. Any one else get stiffed?

Then on the OTHER hand, my wife and I lived in Navy housing in Long Beach, CA during the late 80's. There was whopping $50 cleaning deposit. We'd always kept up our homes so ran out and bought this cleaner and that and spent like an entire weekend cleaning so we could get our fifty bucks back. Guess we should have just let them keep it!

Peter P is back in form.

Yeah, I've been stiffed and usually consider any deposit disposable but what about some of the debacles homeowners get themselves into, huh? With the rush to "get listed and cash in" while the gettin' is good we've seen a lot of homes where owners will be penalized for their "creativity". Half baked notions, ill concieved ideas and just plain stupid projects where it's obvious they lost the creative "vibe", ran out of money or more likely ran out of time. Oh, that's gonna cost ya!

However, I always moved some distance after each rental, and lost some deposits, even though I left the properties better than I found them. Any one else get stiffed?

I don't really care about the deposit. What goes around comes around. They will have bad karma.

East Coast Balla

If you are paying $750/mo mortgage, the total lof your payments is $9,000 per year. If you are married, the standard deduction is $10,000 per year. At that loan, you have no tax deduction gains whatsoever from buying over renting. Even if you are single it would be minimal.

Getting $10,000 back as a "refund" just means you over-withheld.

I look for a rental in a really posh neigborhood. It must have a nice large yard to host 3 goats and a pig and of course a rooster to help with the early morning wake up.

OK I'll try to be positive.
I've only been renting for only 8 months.
I'm in a GREAT neighborhood in Studio City.
I live in a million $ hood and next door to Robert Guillame.(actor)
There is a HUGE avocado tree in the backyard with a treefort in it.
It's a 40s house with 2+2 and hardwood floors.
The kitchen needs to be redone...but I'd rather have an old beat up kit than a mckitchen.
I rent for about a third of what it would cost to own it.
I also hope that in a few years that cash will be king.
I am still a JBR.

"we are all ultimately renters…."

Don't try telling Robert Cote that...

Newsfreak
I'd post my website...but I don't want troll action there....
I don't know how to get it to you privately...
I make cast stone fountains and statuary from my original sculptures...
A lot of european faces as fountain spouts.
I make molds and have them cast...presently I've been searching for someone else to manufacture them as running the crew isn't one of my favorite things.

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Headset,

"just means you over-withheld"

Thank you. Besides there are perils to "fluffing" up your schedule A. Some of them have already been targeted. Used to be you could just claim 10% as "tithings". Uh-huh, try getting away with that now. At some point my wife and I finally figured out that by having a 30+K sched. A it was keeping us from doing some of the other things that we wanted to do for the kids and ourselves. There is a vanishing point. Btw, when we first got married the "standard" deduction was less than 3K.

Weird. I go to pleasanton for the goodguy's shows. I did see a lot of bimmers out there, which did seem a bit out of place. I am so damned tired of seeing those Lexus LS300 SUV's that look like a big shoe on wheels.

Max,

“Looking on the bright side: nothing thins the herd like aging hippies with poor eyesight and poorer reflexes weaving in and out of traffic on a $20,000 chrome plated engine.”

Sadly, they’ve already bred, so that trait will return in the next generation.

Zeke,

You’re too funny! Will you be using the animals in voodoo ceremonies?

Harm, Randy,or SQT
Will you please email newsfreaks email to me?
Thanks in advance!

My only complaint as a renter is that you really can’t do much to your house. The place has kind of crappy carpet, and if it was mine I would like to look at different flooring options.

Negotiate with your LL. He may be willing to let you change the flooring and even pay half of the costs. What you do may actually increase his property value.

One of the things about owning is that you think you've made your house perfect, then you sell the damn thing. Next thing you know, your ex-neighbors said the new owners gutted the house and put in granite counters...

SQT,

I don't believe I've ever seen that level of suck-ation before?

Anyway, I mentioned a few posts ago that we have seen a number of "self inflicted" homeowner abortions. Yeah, carpet always sucks after just a few years. The last stuff wasn't even paid for yet homedebtor is out there shopping for new floor coverings! Just as an example we've seen where sellers laid down some really nice stuff and then put back the old molding/trim. Does that make sense? I mean you see it before you get your coat off.

Zeke
We had chickens in Studio City.Ethel and Lucy. The rabbit was in love with Ethel and kept trying to make Easter Eggs. The kids thought it was hilarious! Lucy was a Polish Crested and really played the part. I never kept my animals caged...didn't have the heart for it. No roosters though, the uppity neighbors would've made a stink.
I made a recycling creek and put frogs in it...then brought in crickets for the frogs to eat....We had our own ecosystem!
Oh, and the rabbit had 2 roomates in the compost heap, a desert tortise and an opossum!

SQT,

If you do negotiate with your LL, remember to put in a schedule for depreciation of capital assets. That way, you're protected against your LL kicking you out after you paid for the flooring.

I lived here for a year, the slumlord was amazing, and we’ll get into that,

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Needless to say, it was all about the view, house built in the 20's, was at various times a whorehouse, rum runner depot, and cat hovel. We moved in during the last phase. I rented the entire upstairs for 2100/month. Slumlord bought the place in the 60's with her ex and got it in the divorce. They ouzzzzzzed slime. Carpet was crap, which I used to negotiate cats, moved in without them cleaning anything or doing anything. Found out from the downstairs neighbor that the slumlord keeps deposits. As she got 4200 from me I wasn't going to let this happen. Stayed a year, moved to alameda. For those Ca renters out there your best friend is the California Renters Rights and Responsibilities handbook. Amazing. Seems that your slumlord has 21 calendar days to give your deposit back, after which point they have to give everything back, even if damaged. Furthermore, you have the right to a walk-thru and the right to fix any "damage". So I waited my 21 days, shit I gave them 30 days, then I called, "Oh hi Kathy, I'm calling about my deposit", "oh, there was damage". "oh really, here's how it is going to work, you have 24hrs to give me my money or go to small claims court", "fine". I sent demand letter (return receipt, signature required), then filed in San Mateo county small claims court. Did you know if you slumlord tries to maliciously keep your deposit you can get treble damages? I got all my money the day after service. Next place in Alameda was great, I concur about dealing directly with the owner. Great restored Victorian met the future Mrs. X at T/J's in Alameda and then moved across the street to the cousin of the prior owner’s rental. Dude was a freak; seem to resent that fact that there is Dr. in front of my name. Paid the deposit cash, which equally pissed him off. Always treated Holmes with respect. So the old guy that lives next door dies and they (owner is contractor) start remodeling the apt. Dudes brother comes at 5am, I am not shitting you, I ask Holmes if he can have his brother come a bit later, he looks at me with contempt and says "no, that's not going to happen". Ahhhh ok. So my cat Georgie (aka, GG, Miss G, Sir G's a lot) breaks the front window, actually one small pane of a 9 window mosaic. Long story. I fix the window. Holmes comes by and demands I come to the front. There are microscopic paint chips in the tan bark, "you need to clean this up". Dude is a 58 yo boomer, fat etc. I say "well you know what I enjoy about this _ _ _, is that I'll go ahead and do this, and whenever you ask me to do something I go right ahead and do it, I ask you one simple thing and you tell me to go fuck myself". He freaking loses it, walks me to side of the house and then assaults me. I don't fight back and start laughing. I then go inside and flip open the yellow pages and find the biggest shyster in SF that I can. I just got my settlement and am going to Japan on the money. Moved to Pismo, rented from an inexperienced owner, not bad though, really nice people but clueless as to what the market value of a rental is. And no it isn't what your mortgage payment is. I saw them sit on the other unit for 6 months rather than take what I initially offered them for it, which they finally took from someone else. WOW. Moved to Santa Barbara and lived in a haunted house for a month, moved to another one, standalone and very very Surfer-X. Found it on craigslist, under market and exactly what we want, owner is a surfer, santa barbara native, and bought the house in the 70's. Rented it to us because "I thought you would enjoy it". We love the place. Craigslist rocks. Remember cats aren't always a deal breaker, we are Amerikans and money makes everything alllllllright.

Ray,
that's the bad thing about those Bimmers and mercedes- they handle really well, so they don't wreck as easily. I hate being on the freeway when some prick in a 70k bimmer convertible zips by doing 95.Always the same kind of 50-something executive looking guy too. As evil as it sounds, a little voice in my head says:"cmon, slip and wreck!" but... that's just heinous. Thnink happy thoughts! think happy thoughts!

Newsfreak
Don't worry...I don't want to sell you anything. :)

Harm, Randy,or SQT
Will you please email newsfreaks email to me?
Thanks in advance!

Done.

"that’s the bad thing about those Bimmers and mercedes- they handle really well, so they don’t wreck as easily"

Damn, gotta get them back into Camarros and ricers, that'll solve the problem.

It’s the classic renters dilemma. I wouldn’t mind better flooring, but I don’t want to put money into someone else’s property.

You are "throwing money away" as a JBR anyway. Why not throw more away? :)

Using CL for rentals is kind of like buying homes fsbo. Sometimes you can go below market and get a good deal, but a lot of them have very exaggerated ideas about the kind of rent they can get.

Excuuuuuuse me!

Dr.-X for Prez!

Oh fine. Now I know you don’t read my posts.

@SQT,

I saw Linda's request, but hadn't yet refreshed to see your response. Job keeps me pretty busy sometimes.

newsfreak,

I ran across this and I think you'd enjoy it.

http://www.mooseyscountrygarden.com/

Peter P teaches about food and finances.

Food and finances do not go well...

food and market psychology

Not food-market psychology though... I am emotionally overwhelmed when I see lots of food on display in the market.

I learned a lot from everybody. Thanks!

I like nice boomers. I do not like so much bad boomers. There are no boomers in the middle. Bad outnumbers good 6 to 1.*

*not investment advice.

Being a life-long SoCal JBR surrounded by brilliant investors with their priorities straight has taught me what really matters in life: Things you can buy with fat stacks from your HELOC, cash-out refi or flipped condos. The one with the most toys in the end wins. Period. Get a methusulah loan, NAAVLP, whatever, but just "get in the game" or your life means nothing.

Oh, and btw, I plan on taking it all with me.

I brood about my JBR status to the Loud Family.

It's probably just the temptation to find the next Zadie Smith.

Though I don't really get the appeal of Zadie Smith...I guess that makes me narrow minded...

SQT,

If you do become the next J K Rowling, can I read your books before they're officially out?

I totally missed out on young girls' lit too. I was reading Tom Clancy in high school, for some freakish reason.

SQT,

It doesn't hurt to be optimistic, especially when I'm not the one who'll be suffering writer's blocks :P