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There's a problem with air travel right now, tho.

FWIW, I haven't seen or heard any "racial" remarks in any of the Tea Party pics and clips I've seen.
But I don't Google for them, or read every Liberal (or Rightwing for that matter) Blog.

Other than what you guys post here I don't see the stuff you guys keep throwing out there. Which every movement has the lowest common denominator.

I mean by this lots view on all of the Tea Partiers,(Baggers) then Acorn was nothing but a Brothel front.
I mean hey face it, there's Video of ACORN officials setting up a corners and turf. Does that incident encompass ACORN as a whole?

And Patrick if I'm not mistaken, you were a strong Ron Paul supporter, based soley on him being for smaller much smaller Government, to the point, that post suggests.

Say what you want about the Teaparty the Teabaggers, ect...

But just know, not all of these peoples are Dolts you guys make them out to be. Now to say you have issues with the Leadership of the Tea Party, is one thing. But to ridicule the people going to these rallys, does more to undermine your efforts than it thwarts the Tea Party leadership. Chided and Chasted constituents don't covert easy.

I've seen a tea party up close & personal,many of the participants were peaceful protesters. But I also saw about a quarter of them holding racist signs and saying some nasty things about pretty much anyone who disagreed with them. Anyone who claims that they're grass roots, that they're not manipulated and sponsored by Faux news, is deeply in denial. I find it sad that the pundits are making tons of money from the people who are in desperate need - those are the ones buying their books & t-shirts.

The "leaders" of the tea-parties are the pundits and the owner of Faux News, who is making money from the rage that they encourage. They are woefully out of touch with the normal, average guy. It's sad to see them self-promote through anger.

Same thing with the leaders of the parties, and our political representatives. I'm sick of everything being split down party lines. If there was a fire in the senate or congressional chambers, I wonder if they'd help each other out of there or if they'd pick & chose along party lines. I suspect it would be the latter.

You don't have to look hard to find these:

I could have used this post over the past 10 years before I even heard of this current Tea Party Movement. I can't tell you how many times I've gotten into convo's regarding how best to make our country better. Many discussions about enabling others to be lazy by providing too many bennies. I can't tell you how many people I've met that believe there should be NO social safety nets meaning no welfare, no public schools, no Medicare/Medicaid, no SS because if you are so poor and have such a god-awful life you will find a way to improve it because we are in the land of opportunity, you know. With next to zero $$$ that you will be paying in taxes the economy will flourish and charity contributions will spike because Americans are so generous!?!?!

I personally think we are too greedy of a culture to give sufficient amounts to charity to cover all of our needs. And these past decade is a perfect example: give people cheap, easy money and look what they do with it!

Did you all see this survey in the NYTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us/politics/15poll.html

It's quite interesting. A few clips in case you don't wanna read a NY Times piece.

A plurality do not think Sarah Palin is qualified to be president, and, despite their push for smaller government, they think that Social Security and Medicare are worth the cost to taxpayers.

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The overwhelming majority of supporters say Mr. Obama does not share the values most Americans live by and that he does not understand the problems of people like themselves. More than half say the policies of the administration favor the poor, and 25 percent think that the administration favors blacks over whites — compared with 11 percent of the general public.

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“I just feel he’s getting away from what America is,” said Kathy Mayhugh, 67, a retired medical transcriber in Jacksonville. “He’s a socialist. And to tell you the truth, I think he’s a Muslim and trying to head us in that direction, I don’t care what he says. He’s been in office over a year and can’t find a church to go to. That doesn’t say much for him.”

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And nearly three-quarters of those who favor smaller government said they would prefer it even if it meant spending on domestic programs would be cut.

But in follow-up interviews, Tea Party supporters said they did not want to cut Medicare or Social Security — the biggest domestic programs, suggesting instead a focus on “waste.”

Some defended being on Social Security while fighting big government by saying that since they had paid into the system, they deserved the benefits.

Others could not explain the contradiction.

“That’s a conundrum, isn’t it?” asked Jodine White, 62, of Rocklin, Calif. “I don’t know what to say. Maybe I don’t want smaller government. I guess I want smaller government and my Social Security.” She added, “I didn’t look at it from the perspective of losing things I need. I think I’ve changed my mind.”

“A conservative is a man who has plenty of money and don’t see any reason why he shouldn’t always have plenty of money.”
Will Rogers

“Liberals feel unworthy of their possessions. Conservatives feel they deserve everything they’ve stolen.”
Mort Sahl

I was annoyed by one of these anti-tax people on the way out of fred meyer this afternoon. I guess they're trying to get a disasterous CA-style 2/3rds majority for passing tax increases.

I asked the guy if they were going to also require a 2/3rds majority for raising spending, or if they were going to require that spending be properly funded, or that tax cuts be combined with spending cuts. He said "no, this is just about taxes".

The "small government" people are full of shit. They just don't want to pay taxes. If they cared about small government, they'd be holding spending revolts, not tax revolts, and they'd be carrying signs demanding an end to medicare, social security, and the wars.

Quite frankly, I'd gladly see an end to the three big spending components of our government, because I think all three are broken. Since I know that isn't going to happen, I'd rather see those three programs properly funded.

Hmmm, tomorrow there's a group meeting up in the park near the White House with weapons. On April 19th. 4/19, why does that seem familiar.... some dude named McVeigh I think....

How could you possibly equate Tea Party people with Timmy? I mean, yeah, they believe the exact same things and espouse the exact same paranoia that he did, but they're not like him. Clearly Timmy was a secret government agent who committed terrorist acts in order to discredit the patriot movement. If he was a real terrorist, he'd have a beard.

I'll be holding my own party at 4:20. :)

Aw, someone had to say it...

hahahaha, Ellie Mae, those 4:20 'earth day' signs are up every where in Portland;O)

What I find interesting in regards to trusting the government, protests, etc is that in general Conservatives have little problem trusting their government with foreign affairs, ie WAR!, but when it comes to domestic policy heck no, 'they are leading us down the wrong path!' And the same can be said for Liberals, in general but vice versa.

If Tea-bagger Palin were in Somalia they would have stoned her daughter.

Whoa, it is an anti-tea party lefty support-group love fest with ellie, vicente, kevin, leigh, and mickey re-affirming their self-worth because of their superior moral position.

The pictures speak for themselves.