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Short Sale Contract Question


               
2010 Jul 16, 2:30am   4,455 views  11 comments

by vain   follow (0)  

Hey does anybody know the answer to this? I made an offer on a Short Sale. There were no extra clauses on the contract other than "Short sale subject to lenders approval." I've made no earnest money deposit. The contract states I will be making a $13k initial deposit. How long is that contract in effect before I can back out and say it's taking too long?

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3   a4adam   @   2010 Jul 16, 3:59am  

I'm no expert, but we've made several short sale offers. My understanding is that you can back out anytime before they send an approval letter. Just making an offer doesn't put you into contract. And once you are under contract, you have some period time (17 days?) to back out even then and still receive your deposit back. They won't (or shouldn't) cash your deposit check until they send the approval letter and you sign it, that's what puts you into contract.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

4   vain   @   2010 Jul 16, 4:05am  

They don't have the actual check - just a copy. But I signed the contract and the seller (borrower) has accepted my offer. We are just waiting for the bank. I was under the assumption that I am in contract with the seller. I guess it can be interpretted as in the contract won't take effect until the lender approves the contract as well.

5   a4adam   @   2010 Jul 16, 4:23am  

Vain says

They don’t have the actual check - just a copy. But I signed the contract and the seller (borrower) has accepted my offer. We are just waiting for the bank. I was under the assumption that I am in contract with the seller. I guess it can be interpretted as in the contract won’t take effect until the lender approves the contract as well.

I understand. We have been in the same situation on two houses. The first for almost 6 months now with no approval letter. The other for a about 2 months with no approval letter. Without the approval letter, nothing moves forward. We made other offers on other short sales because it's ridiculous to sit around and wait 6 months for the bank to get off their asses, only to find out they won't approve.

The point being, you are not really under contract until you sign the actual approval letter from the bank on the short sale. At least that's my understanding of how short sales work.

6   mthom   @   2010 Jul 16, 6:20am  

You made an offer with no date/time expiration? I know short sales take a long time, but you should still put a date - 1 month, 2 months, something.

It depends on your state. Some states have a default time period. I don't know what CA's rule is. It could also be what is considered a "reasonable" time period. Are you sure your CAR contract doesn't have a date? Usually it defaults to 3 days.

If you want to make sure the offer is dead, what you should do is send a rescission of the offer. Otherwise, if the bank does accept, you could be stuck.

7   elliemae   @   2010 Jul 16, 7:26am  

No end-date on the offer? I'm assuming that you offered thru a realtor and it's on their massively wordy earnest money agreements. I'd read the fine print. I'd also ask an attorney.

8   vain   @   2010 Jul 16, 8:25am  

elliemae says

No end-date on the offer? I’m assuming that you offered thru a realtor and it’s on their massively wordy earnest money agreements. I’d read the fine print. I’d also ask an attorney.

It was actually my decision for the high earnest money deposit. It shows the bank that the buyer is serious. I also put no inspection contingency as well. The agent I used is also the seller agent, which is why I didn't have to fight with imaginery multiple offers. Though I can't say she is after my best interest, or the sellers. It's quite clear she's after HER best interest. Which is fine with me.

9   elliemae   @   2010 Jul 16, 8:54am  

The question is length of time that the offer is in force. It's either on the contract you submitted, buried deep in the fine print, or it's a state law of some type. I find it hard to believe that one can submit an offer subject to lender's approval and be stuck forever...

10   a4adam   @   2010 Jul 19, 2:02am  

Vain says

It was actually my decision for the high earnest money deposit. It shows the bank that the buyer is serious. I also put no inspection contingency as well. The agent I used is also the seller agent, which is why I didn’t have to fight with imaginery multiple offers. Though I can’t say she is after my best interest, or the sellers. It’s quite clear she’s after HER best interest. Which is fine with me.

Personally, I would never waive the inspection contingency on any home, even a new one. I want to know what is wrong with a place up front.

11   vain   @   2010 Jul 19, 3:59am  

a4adam says

Vain says


It was actually my decision for the high earnest money deposit. It shows the bank that the buyer is serious. I also put no inspection contingency as well. The agent I used is also the seller agent, which is why I didn’t have to fight with imaginery multiple offers. Though I can’t say she is after my best interest, or the sellers. It’s quite clear she’s after HER best interest. Which is fine with me.

Personally, I would never waive the inspection contingency on any home, even a new one. I want to know what is wrong with a place up front.

Oh I guess I did not mention this with that statement. My father is a contractor and we feel he's more than qualified to inspect the home on the initial viewing. If I had to hire someone for an inspection, he'd be the guy. I look for the appeal of the home, while he looks for damages/coverups/bad design and things that cannot be fixed with reasonable effort.

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