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Patriot Act...Why is it still around??


               
2011 Feb 8, 3:02pm   5,383 views  26 comments

by American in Japan   follow (1)  

I feel this has gone on too long. Why do Congress and Obama keep it in place? Who is against it and who supports it besides Neocons?

http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/house-rejects-extensions-of-patriot-act-provisions-in-u-s

http://www.eff.org/pages/patterns-misconduct-fbi-intelligence-violations

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
--Benjamin Franklin

#politics

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22   Paralithodes   @   2011 Mar 2, 11:05am  

crickets....

23   Leopold B Scotch   @   2011 Mar 2, 11:40pm  

shrekgrinch says

NuttBoxer says

If you are comfortable with your government spying on you, that is certainly up to you, but most of us are not, dating back to the founding of this country when we wrote it into the Constitution.

Show me WHERE in the Constitution that the government can’t ’spy on you’. Please. I’d like to read the text.

(Maybe I missed that your response is intended to be ironic...)
IV --: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Of course, this is all up to interpretation, and progressively the SCOTUS is stacked further away from a liberty-focused intent, and more towards the state having all power over the individual to protect itself, usually under the guise of protecting the people from this bogeyman or that, most of which are the byproduct of government action in the first place.

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
--H. L. Mencken

Not all are imaginary, but many are self-created. The more you intervene, the more your actions create more problems for which more intervention is always the government proposed solution.

24   Paralithodes   @   2011 Mar 3, 6:29am  

Good general points, but now please point out the specific sections of the Patriot Act that they are relevant to....

26   American in Japan   @   2011 May 28, 1:56pm  

Sometimes I wish the torturers would undergo what they did to others...a sort of poetic justice.

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