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401K or save to buy home?


               
2011 May 24, 1:29am   7,067 views  24 comments

by wuaname   follow (0)  

With the the prices going up and up years ago, I was one of those that was priced out of the market and have been renting. Now I am thinking I "have" to jump in to buying, since paying for rent will probably be the same monthly payment more or less than renting, and some places locally I've noticed have reached prices I last saw in 2000-2002 (comparing a property I bought and sold around that time).

So the issue now is saving for the down payment, 3.5% - 5% for fha. I'm thinking if to hold off my 401K contributions for a year to save for the down payment or not.

Let's assume a few conditions:
1.Borrower can't save for the down pmt and put $ into 401K at the same time. It's one or the other.
2.Employer matches 100% up to 5% of your contribution. THIS is the hard part, give up that matching for 12 months or not.

Obviously, not looking at the home purchase as an investment, but paying someone else's mortgage with my rent payments is not a good feeling.

Thoughts?

#housing

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18   RG   @   2011 May 24, 6:44am  

Even without the matching it doesn't make sense to reduce your 401K contributions. Max that baby out. Its all pre-tax money. The biggest two tax breaks for the average middle class worker are the 401K and MID (mortgage interest deduction).

I agree with most people on this site. One should not buy a house without having at least 20% down payment AND 6 months of expenses saved up. I'm not saying you should put 20% down, just that you should HAVE it. The decision on how much to put down is very individual, but how much you should have is not...

Don't forget you can take a loan from your 401K. Or if you have an IRA you can withdraw up to 10K penalty free (for first time home buyers)...

19   RG   @   2011 May 24, 6:46am  

@rob8024

You are incorrect. A ROTH IRA has no penalties for withdrawing anything less then the contributions.

A (traditional) SIMPLE or ROLLOVER IRA is the one with the 10K penalty free limit.

In both cases you have to pay INCOME TAX (the ROTH you paid it before putting it in).

20   Hysteresis   @   2011 May 24, 6:48am  

contribute to your retirement plan first, then buy a home.
otherwise it's mortgaging your future for present gratification.

21   corntrollio   @   2011 May 24, 7:05am  

wuaname says

Yes, it is part mental about buy vs rent.. especially when you do the math… in 5 years I’ve paid $65K in rent.

Do you think buying will cost you less than $1083/month? Include insurance, tax, maintenance, etc. There are many calculators that can help you out with this online. The best I've seen for is missionite's (http://submedian.blogspot.com/), but it may be somewhat California-centric.

I'm with some of the others here that 3.5% is an extremely low down payment, and our government should not be subsidizing loans this way. For many people, it is very risky to be that close to the margins. The government is basically trying to cause Bubble Part 2.

22   rob8024   @   2011 May 24, 8:51am  

Well my point is that the original poster could both save for retirement, AND be putting money away for their house downpayment using a Roth IRA; basically pushing the decision about how to use the fund off until later.

More about using an IRA for a down payment for first time home buyers.

http://www.fool.com/money/allaboutiras/allaboutiras12.htm

23   FortWayne   @   2011 May 24, 11:52am  

401k, you can borrow against your 401k if you are a first time buyer at a very low rate.

24   msilenus   @   2011 May 24, 4:05pm  

Another option is to just take an early withdrawal and suck up that penalty. Paying 10% more tax on 2x the money beats the pants off of paying normal tax on 1x the money. Assuming you've been saving for a few years already, you might have enough to do that now.

Locking in a low interest on a fairly-priced home that you plan to die in should only prove to be a bad move if you die too soon, or get forced out of it by miscalculation or hardship. Otherwise, your earning power should grow while your housing payment stays fixed.

So it might make sense to buy sooner rather than later to guarantee a low rate. Be sure to account for property taxes, insurance, maintenance, and changes in transportation and utility costs --in addition to the payment.

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