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shrekgrinch says

tatupu70 says

lol--I think I understand now. Reality = whatever Shrek believes. It must be nice to live in that world.

Ah, I see that just spouting denial-driven crap qualifies as an adequate response to the actual FACTUAL political realities I provided an example to?
For ObamaCrats, I guess so.

If you ever posted any FACTUAL information then you might have a point. Please show me the example you provided.

klarek says

(without the courtesy of providing a framework to his loony world), it is cheapening the discussion.

Left wants radical change
Centrism is open to change
Right fights any change, wants to undo what has been changed.

This is my loony world, yes. Ooga booga.

How about my dollars drive change and your dollars drive change and the market decides what ideas win and what ideas lose?

We're terrified of the unknown that we sacrifice our souls for parties because they're the most reflective of what we believe.

wtfcapinv says

How about my dollars drive change and your dollars drive change and the market decides what ideas win and what ideas lose

LOL. Faith in the "market". So f-ing inane.

wtfcapinv says

We're terrified of the unknown that we sacrifice our souls for parties because they're the most reflective of what we believe.

No, I see the quality of life of Canada, Norway, Sweden, Germany, Denmark and think we can learn a lot from them.

"Socialism" as practiced there isn't some unknown. What also isn't an unknown is how utterly f-ed up free-market systems become. They are entirely centrifugal in nature, making the rich richer and the poor poorer.

wtfcapinv says

the market decides what ideas win and what ideas lose?

What about when, gasp, market failure happens? Think banksters, among other things.

It's also hard to argue that it's government's fault when government's missteps are what "the market" wants.