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2011 Aug 19, 5:06am 24,800 views 175 comments
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tatupu70
2011 Aug 26, 10:22pm
I am just saying your numbers are wrong. You admitted your insurance pays. That 30k number is a fiction. So is the 15k unless your talking about some sort of complication.
Admit? I wasn't hiding anything. And my numbers weren't wrong. You can claim that hospitals or doctors jack up their costs on the bill knowing that insurance companies won't pay it. Maybe you're right, maybe you're not. And there is certainly no evidence that the costs are jacked up by 100%.
$30K is what the hospital/Drs/labs charged. That is a fact.
There is a whole other world out there Tatapu where people are having babies and enjoying life and they are not spending 15k a pop.
Of course. It's called Canada, Europe, Australia, etc. The rest of the civilized world really.
MisdemeanorRebel
2011 Aug 27, 3:18pm
The $15k out of pocket isn't crazy for a C-section, especially if you have individual health insurance or work for a small company that can only afford shitty plans.
As for babies - let me break it to you. Women have been giving birth for thousands of years. Giving birth is not a sickness it is a natural process. Many babies have been born at virtually no cost in the front and back seats of cars on the way to the hospital.
Which countries on this map represent places where hospital births are the norm, and which are where hospital births are less frequent?
Until the last century, there were more a lot more old men than old women.
Edit: WHO map added.
MisdemeanorRebel
2011 Aug 27, 3:56pm
Shoot I'd have a yard sale of the heirlooms except for maybe the coin collection if it'd help pay final bills. I find it sad so many get obsessed over all the money and things really, I dread the possibility of sibling issues over it.
Yeah, this happened in my family. It sucked, even though none of the other siblings cared or needed what little money there was, or about the last minute changes to the will and executor, which nobody was told about, including the person who was replaced (the elder brother).
What pissed everyone off was my Uncle's bizarre behavior regarding the sentimental stuff: The Photo Albums, Keepsakes, Old Toys, etc. He never told anybody what happened to them, whether they were kept, sold, or trashed. He constantly evaded giving an answer about them.
Even though all the siblings offered to pay or share the cost of the funerals, and shared the care of my grandmother in the few months between her death, he had a sudden snit seemingly out of the blue, wrote all of his siblings a nasty-gram about them taking advantage of him, and hasn't spoken to anybody in the 15 years since.
I guess years of resentment just boiled over.
leo707
2011 Aug 29, 6:43pm
Which countries on this map represent places where hospital births are the norm, and which are where hospital births are less frequent?
Until the last century, there were more a lot more old men than old women.
Yep, it is a natural process that has a relatively high mortality rate when it happens without modern medical care.
Nice map, it is interesting to see what other countries are out "peers" when it comes to maternal mortality.
Nice map, it is interesting to see what other countries are out "peers" when it comes to maternal mortality.
But, but, but other countries lie about their health care results, only America tells the truth. America has the best health care in the world, those socialist countries in the blue can't have better results, Fox says so.
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By blocking a national health insurance option for major medical care, Republicans also block small business formation.
I know this to be true from painful first-hand experience with Patrick.net. It is very hard to start a small business in America unless you're already rich, because Republicans have blocked every attempt at a national health insurance option.
The private health insurance cartel does not offer any reasonable plan for individuals or families that would allow you to get independent coverage for your family, to go start your own small business. They charge obscenely high rates, and are rapidly increasing those rates as well. Go try to get insurance. You'll see.
I get friends writing me because they want to quit their day jobs and start a business, but they're worried about the cost and availability family health insurance on their own, so they don't do it. And I tell them they're damn right to be worried about insurance, because of those very high and rapidly increasing rates, and the fact that private insurance companies simply refuse to insure anyone who is likely to need medical care. So the Republicans have strangled millions of potential small businesses in the crib. And that's exactly what they intended to do all along.
See, Republican congressmen always vote to make the richest corporations and billionaires richer, and screw the rest of us. Blocking small business creation by blocking a national health insurance option is a perfect example. Lack of independent health insurance forces you to be an obedient worker. And that's just how your owners like it!
We need a national health insurance option for critical care (not the small stuff) that everyone pays into, and everyone benefits from, like national defense. It should not be paid for by extra taxes or obligations on small businesses, because that would just serve the Republican goal of blocking small business formation all over again.
The Tea Party morons in the tri-corner hats are campaigning against the freedom to start a small business. They deserve what they get, but they're campaigning to screw the rest of us too.
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