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Rick Perry on Evolution: It's just a passing fad


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2011 Aug 23, 3:49pm   2,362 views  18 comments

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"In the broader field, thank Heaven, I sat at the feet of Darwin and Huxley...."
Theodore Roosevelt in My Life as a Naturalist, American Museum Journal, May 1918

"Of course, like every other man of intelligence and education I do believe in organic evolution. It surprises me that at this late date such questions should be raised."
Woodrow Wilson, Letter to Winterton C. Curtis (29 August 1922)

"Evolution is a theory that's out there, that's got some gaps in it. In Texas both creationism and evolution are taught to students in public schools. I figure you're smart enough to figure out which one is right."
Rick Perry, campaign trail in NH, 2011

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1   nope   2011 Aug 23, 4:19pm  

I don't really understand the point of him saying these things. He's already pretty much a sure bet for the GOP nomination, and it's not like the kind of people who go for this kind of bullshit are ever going to vote for Obama anyway.

2   wtfcapinv   2011 Aug 23, 10:27pm  

Right on message. The advocates of the Democratic Party have a mission for America's economic plight.

Lets talk about Evolution.

3   Done!   2011 Aug 23, 11:55pm  

Rick Perry looks like a 70's prime time television character, and is about as smart as a box of expired over the counter clap medication.

I think Fred Willard is a better candidate.

We could probably swap them and no one would notice.

4   tatupu70   2011 Aug 24, 12:14am  

Is there a serious candidate among the Republicans?

5   marcus   2011 Aug 25, 7:43am  

wtfcapinv says

Right on message. The advocates of the Democratic Party have a mission for America's economic plight.

Lets talk about Evolution.

More like, would it be asking too much that we respect science and have a reality based government ?

The GOP's plan that has been built on for decades: We need as many people "under our tent" as possible who are capable of believing whatever they want to believe, regardless of facts and logic. In other words, we need a solid constituency of fools that will believe whatever we tell them to believe.

6   Huntington Moneyworth III, Esq   2011 Aug 25, 9:56am  

Moneyworth's Financial Advice #575:

If one of your servants starts talking about science, slap the shit out of him or her. Then fire them.

Science is simply the modern version of magic. The underclass has absolutely no reason to understand or know science, and scientific knowledge is dangerous in the hands of the underclass. Did the Aztec Shamans share their magical secrets with their underclass? No! Do we want chefs splitting atoms in our kitchens? No!

You will need to employ some scientists in your own pusuit of the dark arts, but those minions should be carefully monitored lest some real foolishness enter their heads. Best to keep them leveraged with superstitious higher powers and "morals".

7   corntrollio   2011 Aug 26, 8:53am  

shrekgrinch says

"Evolution is a theory that's out there, that's got some gaps in it."

Failing to understand the difference between a "conjecture", a "theory", and a "belief"? Check.

The "it's just a theory" thing is just nonsense and stated by ignorant people who don't know what a theory is or who only know its definition in colloquial speech (as opposed to in science).

[Just to be clear, as you can read below, this was meant to be "Vincente says" and quoting Rick Perry. I must have hit the wrong button.]

8   Dan8267   2011 Aug 26, 10:14am  

Why does it not surprise me that Shrekgrinch doesn't think evolution is real?

And and to clarify things... A scientific theory is NOT a guess or speculation. Scientists call an educated, testable guess a "hypothesis" and a guess that is not known to be testable a "conjecture". A theory is a conceptual framework for explaining a wide range of phenomenon that makes testable predictions, i.e. predictions that can verify the theory if it is correct or utterly disprove the theory if it is wrong.

A cornerstone of science is the ability to repeat an experiment and get the same results under the same conditions. None of this religious b.s. about not being able to repeat turning water into wine or walking on water. If a prediction of a theory can, by definition, be tested once it can be tested repeatedly and will have the same result. Therefore, if a work is a theory ever than it is always a theory forever, even after it has been proven or disproven.

The word theory does not mean "untested" or "unproven". It means "testable".

It is unfortunate that the unwashed masses have butchered this beautiful word by misusing it, and in doing so, have only added confusion and ignorance to the world.

9   Dan8267   2011 Aug 26, 10:16am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Tony Manero says

Perry won't get my vote until he demands that evolutionary biologists are dragged to the gallows in the name of Jesus Christ.

Now, now. It would be more appropriate to crucify evolutionary biologists, not hang them. After all, we don't want them getting boners.

10   Dan8267   2011 Aug 26, 10:22am  

There should be a law that says anyone who does not believe in evolution cannot:

1. Run for office.
2. Serve on a jury.
3. Vote.

This should be done on the basis that not believing in evolution in the 21st century does indicate a form of retardation like not believing the world is round. If you are so willfully ignorant and delusional in this day and age, it is a form of insanity.

And I am very tempted to add "Reproduce" to that list above.

11   Dan8267   2011 Aug 26, 10:25am  

Vicente says

In Texas both creationism and evolution are taught to students in public schools.

I guess I can understand that. There's nothing in Texas that would make you believe in evolution.

12   corntrollio   2011 Aug 26, 10:29am  

shrekgrinch says

Since you deliberately misquoted me big time

My bad, I have no idea how that ended up as shrekgrinch. I must have hit quote on the wrong post.

In any case, it's pretty obvious from context that it was a quote from Rick Perry, so I don't understand the hostile response. Isn't it obvious to anyone reading the thread that I hit the wrong button?

Now quoting what shrek added later:
shrekgrinch says

You make this big hey about having higher standards and intellectual honesty on these forums...and then stoop so low as to attribute some quote to me that I never said. Please tell me you made a mistake.

Oh please, you make several mistakes in almost every post you write, and you never admit them. Keep studying that constitution, by the way. Hitting the wrong button has nothing to do with intellectual honesty -- unfortunately, you can't tell the difference between intellectual honesty and making an honest mistake.

13   Dan8267   2011 Aug 26, 10:35am  

I'm still waiting for Shrek to replay to the last posts in this thread.

14   Dan8267   2011 Aug 26, 11:13am  

Oh yes, I typo'd his name. Damn o key next to the l key.

I made a mistake on the Internet, and it was the worst kind of mistake: grammatical.

That completely invalidates everything I ever said. Excuse me while I go kill myself now. I don't think I'm worth the oxygen.

15   Vicente   2011 Aug 26, 3:58pm  

Dan8267 says

I guess I can understand that. There's nothing in Texas that would make you believe in evolution.

Bwahaha! I like that one.

16   marcus   2011 Aug 26, 5:12pm  

Watch out for this Jon Huntsman guy...hopefully too sane to win the republican primaries. Then again, if a republican is going to win, I probably would like it to be him.

http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/08/21/300395/huntsman-slams-perry-again-on-climate-and-evolution-wrong-side-of-science/

Last week, Jon Huntsman began to call out Governor Rick “4 Pinocchios” Perry and others in his party for being anti-science. He started with the tweet above that went viral.

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"I think there’s a serious problem. The minute that the Republican Party becomes the party – the anti-science party, we have a huge problem. We lose a whole lot of people who would otherwise allow us to win the election in 2012. When we take a position that isn’t willing to embrace evolution, when we take a position that basically runs counter to what 98 of 100 climate scientists have said, what the National Academy of Science – Sciences has said about what is causing climate change and man’s contribution to it, I think we find ourselves on the wrong side of science, and, therefore, in a losing position."

17   corntrollio   2011 Aug 29, 5:49am  

shrekgrinch says

It was more obvious that you were trying to ascribe that quote to me, actually.

Right, because the blockquote + quotation marks treatment usually indicates a speaker not quoting someone else. :p

18   leo707   2011 Aug 29, 6:09am  

I just can't wait till Perry starts going after some other zany scientific theory's. Like the theory of gravity:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/evangelical-scientists-refute-gravity-with-new-int,1778/

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