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Since every fetus is equally the responsibility of a man, that man should have an equal say in any abortion.

This I cannot support. Abortion ought to be a fundamental right requiring no approval whatsoever. No one should be able to veto an abortion.

There should be no separate bathrooms for women, nor any separate facilities ever.

Problem is that women will take over all bathroom stalls when demand arises. I enjoy my "express line" and I do not object to having separate bathrooms.

My pet peeve: single-stall gender specific bathrooms. They should be outlawed.

I am a feminist. I supported women's groups in college. In particular, I want women to be independent and they should pursue whatever dreams they might have.

However, I do not support gender equality because the very idea of equality is perverse. No two things are ever equal.

I want women to be equally represented as Electric linepeople, Coal Miners, Oil Rig Roustabouts, Taxi Drivers, and other very dangerous jobs - not just the safe, high paying job like corporate officer or bank adminstrator..

thunderlips11 says

I want women to be equally represented as Electric linepeople, Coal Miners, Oil Rig Roustabouts, Taxi Drivers, and other very dangerous jobs - not just the safe, high paying job like corporate officer or bank adminstrator..

Or bank teller or office clerk or secretary or "personal assistant" (Pun Intended) or housewife or model or REALTOR!

Peter P says

However, I do not support gender equality

In other words, you support female superiority like a true mangina...

Peter P says

I am a feminist.

You are a pussy-whipped cuckold faggot.

Equal Rights For Women Now!

* Since every fetus is equally the responsibility of a man, that man should have an equal say in any abortion.

Disagree

Yes, men are women are clearly unequal in terms of reproductive rights. For women, reproduction is a right. For men, it's a privilege. Furthermore, the woman does universally get to decide whether or not to have an abortion.

Although we should strive for equality under law, nature imposes certain constraints that make perfect equality impossible due to the broken symmetry of gender situations. It would be wrong and impossible to enforce giving a father equal say in whether or not an abortion happens. What would that even mean in a disagreement? You can't abort half a fetus. CallItCrazy's mom tried that and look at the results.

My counter-proposal is that
- women get to unconditionally decide whether or not to become a mother.
- men get to unconditionally decide whether or not to become a legal father with all the rights and responsibilities of a father.

So a woman can abort the fetus over the objection of the fathers or keep it over the objections of the father. However, the father is only legally responsible for care and financial assistance if he agrees to be the legal father, and if he does, he has parental rights. If not, he doesn't.

This is as close to equality as the constraints of nature allow in this situation. I think you'll find my counter-proposal acceptable.

* No man should have any legal responsibility for any child his wife conceives while cheating. (You may be surprised to learn that men are legally required to support bastards.)

Agreed

The laws requiring men to pay for the children of other men make no sense and clearly violate due process.

* Alimony should be abolished, since both are equal partners in the marriage so there is no reason one should support the other after a marriage.

Agreed

Maybe this made sense when women had to get married and depend on her husband's income to survive, but not anymore. Furthermore, it violates the 14th Amendment like the other instances of inequality you mention.

* Exactly as many women should serve in combat units in the armed forces as men.

Agreed, but with one caveat.

No one should be required to register for the selective service or "serve" in the military in any capacity as it is slavery. However, two wrongs don't make a right, and so requiring one gender to be used as cannon fodder is every bit as wrong a requiring one race to be cannon fodder.

* There should be no separate bathrooms for women, nor any separate facilities ever. We all know that "separate but equal" is a flawed idea.

Agreed, but with one caveat.

All bathrooms should be single user. This solves a multitude of problems from gender inequality to transgender issues to the fact that most men are unhygienic pigs who don't flush the toilet after dropping a payload and instead just stew in their filth smelling up the whole bathroom...

If anyone ever smells your shit, you aren't a real man. Anyway, I digress...

* Since men are now less than 50% of incoming college freshmen, colleges should be required to give preferences to men to correct the situation or face the loss of all federal grants.

Disagree

Two wrongs don't make a right. That's why I don't believe in Affirmative Action for anything. Not for blacks, and also not for whites. Not for women, and also not for men.

Fine corporations that practice discriminatory policies, regardless of who they are discriminating for or against. But you can't fight discrimination with more discrimination.

Besides, I wished the male:female ratio was what it is now when I was in college. And the last thing we need is males that are too dumb to get into college reproducing. It's not like the standards for getting into or graduating from college are high. It's a money mill.

Counter-proposal: Remove all sports scholarships, except cheerleading because that's dangerous. Then the campus will be full of hot coeds and men in engineering, the way god intended.

Dan8267 says

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Than why do male rapists have threats of getting their genitals damaged?

This philosophy of "two wrongs don't make a right" is only practiced when it's a male victim and a female oppressor.

But when it's a female victim and a male oppressor... No... It is okay.

Well fuck that!

Revenge is necessary.

Every action has a reaction.

Also Dan abortion is an issue in society now because no bitch has any fucking morals anymore.

Every slut wants to take the most dick she can without getting pregnant.

Getting fucked by over hundreds of men is common nowadays.

And so is gonorrhea, herpes, warts and countless other diseases.

Robber Baron Elite Scum says

Than why do male rapists have threats of getting their genitals damaged?

Because some people are hypocritical scumbags. Has PatNet taught you nothing?

Robber Baron Elite Scum says

Revenge is necessary.

Revenge and justice are mutually exclusive. You cannot serve two masters.

Robber Baron Elite Scum says

Also Dan abortion is an issue in society now because no bitch has any fucking morals anymore.

Abortion is an issue because technology has made it safe and practical.

Robber Baron Elite Scum says

And so is gonorrhea, herpes, warts and countless other diseases.

Just stay away from CallItCrazy.

Dan8267 says

Disagree

Yes, men are women are clearly unequal in terms of reproductive rights. For women, reproduction is a right. For men, it's a privilege. Furthermore, the woman does universally get to decide whether or not to have an abortion.

Dan, that's just a bunch of liberal hogwash. Men and women are not equal, so this strange freak show stride (pretend to be liberals) for equality in every way is stupid. You might as well give up on that now.

Patrick is right, you can't make everyone and everything equal. It just doesn't work, and it won't work. Trying is only a huge colossal waste of time and resources.

Even you just proved yourself wrong when you said that men and women are unequal by nature. There you go, first step toward recovery.

* There should be no separate bathrooms for women, nor any separate facilities ever. We all know that "separate but equal" is a flawed idea.

I guess traffic on Patnet is slowing down. Nice assclown post to stir the pot. I really thought you were above this kind of crap. Sorry, I was wrong.

rooemoore says

I guess traffic on Patnet is slowing down. Nice assclown post to stir the pot. I really thought you were above this kind of crap. Sorry, I was wrong.

There is nothing wrong with what Patrick said. He just pointed out the double standards in the childish campaign that is brought up by feminist groups this year. You people can't eat your cake and have it too, equality doesn't work.

I am a feminist and I do not support gender equality.

FortWayne says

Dan, that's just a bunch of liberal hogwash. Men and women are not equal, so this strange freak show stride (pretend to be liberals) for equality in every way is stupid.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/V7Brh9iWajc

http://www.youtube.com/embed/QTwKOCILJl0

rooemoore says

* There should be no separate bathrooms for women, nor any separate facilities ever. We all know that "separate but equal" is a flawed idea.

I guess traffic on Patnet is slowing down. Nice assclown post to stir the pot. I really thought you were above this kind of crap. Sorry, I was wrong.

Some characters here act like they would be happier in the middle east but that would only last until they had their first confrontation with a machete wielding muz. At that point they will hail a cab for an express ride to the airport and rush to safety of american "feminist" state.

rooemoore says

* There should be no separate bathrooms for women, nor any separate facilities ever. We all know that "separate but equal" is a flawed idea.

I guess traffic on Patnet is slowing down. Nice assclown post to stir the pot. I really thought you were above this kind of crap. Sorry, I was wrong.

LOL - as I was reading this, I was thinking to his last thread about asking for $1,000,000 in donations to open a wine bar, but on his application he actually thought it was a good idea to link to this site.

So apparently some prospective donor is supposed to come over here, read this and think "yes this guy has his act together - this area needs a good wine bar and this is exactly the type of guy I, a San-Franciscian should invest my money with". Really?

Ever heard of hide the crazy Patrick? It was one thing when this site was a place to learn about buying real estate, but now its all about retarded political fights, hatred of/ burning the system to the ground, hatred of jews & blacks, ebola, and cockeyed arms. Catering to the lunatc fringe - nice legacy there.

I mean, if you ever wonder why your "say what you pay" housebuying or "why wont a venturecapitalist talk to me" or why your competitive wine bar business ideas go to shit, look no further than this site. Michael Jordan was once asked why he didn't do more to publicly support Barrack Obama - his answer? "Because republicans buy shoes too". Think about it.

dublin hillz says

Some characters here act like they would be happier in the middle east but that would only last until they had their first confrontation with a machete wielding muz. At that point they will hail a cab for an express ride to the airport and rush to safety of american "feminist" state.

America is not a feminist state. America is a reasonable state where anyone who works hard and gets educated can succeed. Man or woman, doesn't matter, you can succeed.

What liberals lately been pretending is that somehow women are oppressed in this society when in reality they have it much easier. Can a man opt out to be a stay home dad? No. But can a woman do it? Yes.

Women are much more free in this society and it is very disingenuous of politicians and fringe groups to paint it different just for an election season gimmick.

FortWayne says

...pretending is that somehow women are oppressed...

They also think many categories of people are somehow "oppressed." In short, they worship weakness. This is the most dangerous part.

Ideas like income equality and gender equality are equally perverse.

People should be inspired to become strong characters.

We really should liberate women. First step, they must not think of themselves as victims.

FortWayne says

Can a man opt out to be a stay home dad? No.

Why not? Of course a man can choose to stay home.

rooemoore says

Nice assclown post to stir the pot.

If Patrick wanted to increase traffic to this site, he would post pictures of scantily clad women like these.

If you need more examples, I can do further research.

There should be no separate bathrooms for women

I am no expert in Hungarian society, however, at the natural hot springs baths, several times, nude women came into the showers I 'thought' was for the boys, mostly men were in there already.

No one really batted an eyelash.

rooemoore says

* There should be no separate bathrooms for women, nor any separate facilities ever. We all know that "separate but equal" is a flawed idea.

I guess traffic on Patnet is slowing down. Nice assclown post to stir the pot. I really thought you were above this kind of crap. Sorry, I was wrong.

Many times women invade a men's restroom when the women's is out of order or even too busy...

Nobody says anything to them.

But if a man was to do that, he would be in handcuffs even if he was just there to use the facility and than leave.

So fuck you...

David9 says

I am no expert in Hungarian society, however, at the natural hot springs baths, several times, nude women came into the showers I 'thought' was for the boys, mostly men were in there already.

No one really batted an eyelash.

Eastern Europe is heaven on earth.

Planning to move there eventually. Just need to dump some assets, find a place there and off I go.

Robber Baron Elite Scum says

Eastern Europe is heaven on earth.

Planning to move there eventually. Just need to dump some assets, find a place there and off I go.

Not a baron like you, but the numbers work for even a Peasant like me in Budapest for retirement. ;-)

CDon says

It was one thing when this site was a place to learn about buying real estate, but now its all about retarded political fights, hatred of/ burning the system to the ground, hatred of jews & blacks, ebola, and cockeyed arms. Catering to the lunatc fringe - nice legacy there.

Time to wake up ASSHOLE...

Real estate is out of trend.

THE APOCALYPSE is about to be born and this is the place where we say goodbye to each other.

Nice legacy indeed... ASSHOLE!

Peter P says

FortWayne says

Can a man opt out to be a stay home dad? No.

Why not? Of course a man can choose to stay home.

That way it will also be much easier for the man to be served with the divorce papers that will soon be hand-delivered on his doorstep. It's a win-win situation, I tell you.

Peter P says

Why not? Of course a man can choose to stay home.

Of course, he can.

He can either live in his cardboard tent or his parents basement sleeping on a old sofa.

justme says

his doorstep

You mean his parent's basement door step, right?

Or his cardboard tent's door step right?

Someone had to throw a bucket of cold water on Dan.

Robber Baron Elite Scum says

justme says

his doorstep

You mean his parent's basement door step, right?

Or his cardboard tent's door step right?

No, no. I'm talking about the short period of time between the events "starting to stay home" and "wife concocts false accusation of domestic violence so that man must move into parents' basement"

bgamall4 says

Of course there are stay at home dads.

These relationships always have failed.

The woman ends up not respecting the man and even the kids end up not respecting their father.

The women end up cheating as well. They become naggy, bossy, pinpoint every last small thing and they eventually divorce.

They get custody of their child.

In many cases, they men get no alimony as well AND on top of that they have to pay child support AND alimony to that feminazi bitch cunt AND they get 0% of her assets.

There have been cases of men getting alimony but they are rewarded usually less and for less duration. Those are also only a few.

justme says

Robber Baron Elite Scum says

justme says

his doorstep

You mean his parent's basement door step, right?

Or his cardboard tent's door step right?

No, no. I'm talking about the short period of time between the events "starting to stay home" and "wife concocts false accusation of domestic violence so that man must move into parents' basement"

Ohhh

Ok...

Good we are on the same page.... I thought I lost you there and maybe you were just like these other feminazi liberal retards...

Heraclitusstudent says

Someone had to throw a bucket of cold water on Dan.

You could tell she was very much fuckable in her 20's...

CDon says

I mean, if you ever wonder why your "say what you pay" housebuying or "why wont a venturecapitalist talk to me" or why your competitive wine bar business ideas go to shit, look no further than this site. Michael Jordan was once asked why he didn't do more to publicly support Barrack Obama - his answer? "Because republicans buy shoes too". Think about it.

There's some truth to that but you're drawing the wrong conclusions. If Patrick's aim would be to maximize his monetary support by any means, then he probably would be more tight-lipped, two-faced politically correct.

The conclusion to draw is not that the site is shit, or that Patrick is crazy because he actually says what he thinks in one thread instead of hiding behind today''s shit-show of platitudes, regurgitated and white-washed out-of-context quotes from business "influencers" to the Dalai Lama, which is pretty much what most social media and their forums have become. It is a wake-up call for you that political correctness is the biggest scourge of the 21st century, and all of the -isms it endorses or fights.

You may be happy now because you think yourself as included in those who are "sane", but one day it may be you who is dissenting with the masses, or one of your kids (if you have any), and when the character assassination is completed you may re-think and come to the conclusion that "crazies" like RBES don't sound so crazy anymore ;)

Do you guys really have to REPEAT that photo of Janet Yellen every 2 pages? Come on, just refer to the text not the image.

It's not too late to edit.

justme says

Do you guys really have to REPEAT that photo of Janet Yellen every 2 pages?

Yes.

We want a four-some sex tape of Janet Yellen, Ben Bernanke, Alan Greenspan and Barack Obama.

justme says

Peter P says

FortWayne says

Can a man opt out to be a stay home dad? No.

Why not? Of course a man can choose to stay home.

That way it will also be much easier for the man to be served with the divorce papers that will soon be hand-delivered on his doorstep. It's a win-win situation, I tell you.

You guys are exaggerating. Men's pride tend to be more hurt by staying at home than women's. :-)

* stay away from my 401K

Peter P says

Men's pride tend to be more hurt by staying at home than women's. :-)

Of course.

Because deep inside nobody in society respects and accepts a man as a househusband or a stay at home dad.

He is considered a bum, lazy, mooch, parasite and inferior.

Women are accepted to be housewives and stay at home moms.

It doesn't take a Sigmund Freud to understand why men's' pride is hurt more than women's'

You imply men have a big ego and that's why their pride is hurt.

Men don't have as big egos as compared to women.

Women are the ones with the ego problems in America and other western "modern" cultures.

Robber Baron Elite Scum says

Heraclitusstudent says

Someone had to throw a bucket of cold water on Dan.

You could tell she was very much fuckable in her 20's...

You mean she was fuckable in the 20's.

And I still disagree.