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To withdraw by a certain time. It did not work, because all that the Taliban had to do was to sit still until we withdrew. Then they were back in business.
As usual Softee Obama screwed up.
I did? I just laugh at all the voters who were duped by the "drain the swamp", "Trump knows how to win" nonsense.
Yeah, we should have voted "For The Swamp"...
I got news for you--you DID vote "for the swamp"
This combination of military and industrial corporatism at the executive level of government is a definition of a fascist state. Combine that with a malleable megalomaniac who is willing to betray his allies and voter base, and that makes for a dangerous cabal.
I agree, Monopoly Amazon, the most powerful country in the world, running WaPo is a big danger. Carlos Slim, one of the world's wealthiest men, owns the Paper of Record, the NYT. Something like 80-90% of Legacy Media is owned by 6 companies; I heard 250 executives control almost all national news.
Going back to 100s of Media Outlets, all differently owned, is a return to normalcy.
I'm commenting on the invested manpower requirements for bringing an ass backwards country up to somewhat modern standards of governance.
I don't think thats what you are replying to...
jazz_music says
Real change takes generations, not administration to administration.
Wrong, the descent to fascist tyranny is fast and unstoppable unless the people keep asserting themselves vigilantly.
I agree, Monopoly Amazon, the most powerful country in the world, running WaPo is a big danger. Carlos Slim, one of the world's wealthiest men, owns the Paper of Record, the NYT. Something like 80-90% of Legacy Media is owned by 6 companies; I heard 250 executives control almost all national news.
Going back to 100s of Media Outlets, all differently owned, is a return to normalcy.
Wrong, the descent to fascist tyranny is fast and unstoppable unless the people keep asserting themselves vigilantly.
That is what time it is. This is the edge of the great fall. When the black swan event arrives, any emergency really, the people will be reeling from the blow, the swoop will be almost impossible to stop.
BTW Carlos Slim owns 17% of the NYT stock. FYI that is called a minority shareholder. Why do conservatives suck at math so much?
Do you understand how stocks work? Or how much stock in listed companies are owned by Mutual Funds, Trusts, Pensions, ETFs, etc that can't be voted by law or by-law?
You can control a company with single digit stock percentages, easily. Most retail holders don't vote and most institutional ones can't. Tha'st typically 80% of outstanding shares right there. There's also different classes of stocks that contain more votes per stock than common stock.
The NYT is 65% owned by institutions, most of which can't vote by law or by-law. Typically, retail investors buying for their IRA or via Charles Schwab or whatever have ~10%.
So one person with 17% ownership is actually massive.
With all the media restriction and alternate media Trump has set up
Please say more about this.
Trump's media restriction?
You mean like Google and Cloudflare and Godaddy making it impossible for anyone to get to sites they choose to censor?
Rumors of a 15-25,000 Indian Deployment to Afghanistan Growing... Indian Army and MPs going on record supporting.... Modi is coming... Pakistan is Pissed... Developing...
Rumors of a 15-25,000 Indian Deployment to Afghanistan Growing... Indian Army and MPs going on record supporting.... Modi is coming... Pakistan is Pissed... Developing...
Awesome. I love Pakistan being pissed. It's a terrorist country that's been sucking us dry for too long. Pakistan needs to be controlled, and their nukes taken away.
I say we just kill off the population of Afghanistan that can't be quickly brought up out of the stone age, even if that is almost the entire population.
BREAKING NEWS!
Obama or Clinton aren't President.
Democrats aren't in charge of CONgress.
It's Republicans fault!
I say we just kill off the population of Afghanistan that can't be quickly brought up out of the stone age, even if that is almost the entire population.
Or, better, get the fuck out of Afghanistan and let the interested parties (India and Russia) deal with it themselves. I do not see a reason why one should meddle in those parts of the world.
On a side note anyone else notice Harvey and Irma are so much yesterdays news and nary a peep on the news now.
Sure glad those recoveries are over and everything is back to normal
Current gas prices suggests that at least some refining capacity is back up and producing.
I say we just kill off the population of Afghanistan that can't be quickly brought up out of the stone age, even if that is almost the entire population.
I say we just kill off the population of Afghanistan that can't be quickly brought up out of the stone age, even if that is almost the entire population.
Or, better, get the fuck out of Afghanistan and let the interested parties (India and Russia) deal with it themselves. I do not see a reason why one should meddle in those parts of the world.
bob2356 saysWe should have let the Taliban prosecute OBL, which they were willing to do, and if we were not satisfied then made a decision on the next move.
Kind of early to be drinking, isn't it?
What have we got to show for it other than opening the floodgates for cheap opiods to pour into the country? Nothing.
bob2356 says
What have we got to show for it other than opening the floodgates for cheap opiods to pour into the country? Nothing.
We learnt that Pussy Presidents are not tough enough to take on cold blooded terrorists and rogue countries like Pakistan who fully support terrorists. We need guys like Trump to get the job done.
You beleive this draft dodging chickenhawk president is going to do better than the last draft dodging chickenhawk president? How do you arrive at this amazing conclusion?
What is Trumps plan for taking on Pakistan? I haven't seen it yet. Can you link to it? Will that be before we take on Korea, Afghanistan, and the entire middle east of after?
I like Trump's tough ass kicking approach better.
bob2356 says
What is Trumps plan for taking on Pakistan? I haven't seen it yet. Can you link to it? Will that be before we take on Korea, Afghanistan, and the entire middle east of after?
You expect Trump to reveal his plans to our enemies and the world?
Simple. Our enemies NK, Pakistan, Iran, and Venezuela hate Trump. They loved pushover Obama. They would not hate Trump so much unless he was ruffling their feather
Strategist saysSimple. Our enemies NK, Pakistan, Iran, and Venezuela hate Trump. They loved pushover Obama. They would not hate Trump so much unless he was ruffling their feather
Our allies hate trump too. Are we going to war with Australia and NZ also? Is there a secret plan?
but I love him for kicking our enemies, who all abuse human rights, in the butt.
Strategist saysbut I love him for kicking our enemies, who all abuse human rights, in the butt.
Like Saudi Arabia?
Does this mean it is okay then for our "allies" to abuse human rights as long as they support our wars, buy our weapons, publicly support our bullshit foreign policies etc. and they sell us their oil ?
I like Trump's tough ass kicking approach better.
Strategist saysI like Trump's tough ass kicking approach better.
5 time draft dodgers need their asses kicked.
How can the military salute a coward?
It's totally incoherent.
An unknown 'secret' deployment time timetable for an build up of in country forces. As to how this helps us not being "waited out" by the Taliban, who live in Afghanistan, no one can say. There was some tough talk on India and Pakistan. There was some meaningless, "we aren't democracy building, we are going to kill bad guys." talk as well.
Globalists +1 ... but this is going to be a shit show at the hands of Trump.
America -1 ... we have no plan to achieve anything good in Afghanistan as far as I can tell.