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Just went to YouTube and type in the words Las Vegas, the third result was "Las Vegas shooting hoax"

I expect to see Gary with his crisis actors and moulage kits any minute now.

Yah the warning couple 45 minutes before the shooting definitely weren't the shooter or his girlfriend. I'm guessing either
1) she had contact with the shooter's network and knew that way or
2)psychic. It's got to suck having Cassandra syndrome.

anonymous says

I expect to see Gary with his crisis actors and moulage kits any minute now.

Hey Gary.....Where the hell are you? We need your expertise.

me123 says

I just saw YouTube video of him and his girlfriend attending a Reno anti-Trump rally In August, but he probably was there as undercover Repub, right?

lol--I saw that video. I can see why you didn't post it here because it'd make you look like Gary.

CBOEtrader says

Yet another example of far left terrorism

Dozens were killed and hundreds injured after a shooting at a Las Vegas music festival on Sunday, October 1. It is the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history.

It's time to talk about gun control. How many more mass shootings from conservatives, left or right, must happen until guns are banned?

But Dan, how dare you turn this tragedy into a political argument? That's what the original post already did.

me123 says

I have a $1000 that says he wasn't a Repub or a Trump supporter. Put your money where your TDS is. Let's she just how serious of a troll you are.

Are you sure you want to wager that much? That's like 3 luxury cruises.

Strategist says

anonymous says

I expect to see Gary with his crisis actors and moulage kits any minute now.

Hey Gary.....Where the hell are you? We need your expertise.

His expertise is useless unless pictures of shooter's arms become available.

He's either Muslim or leftist. Those are the crazy once constantly hating America for it's freedoms.

Cboe - in the thread you posted he was a "well known leftist activist". Why did you post that?

Dan8267 says

Admitting that the right is every bit as vile as the left and for the exact same reason

As far as human nature goes this is accurate. The difference is the massive support for righteous violence coming from the extreme left today.

You will find similar righteousness in the blinded heart of right wing terrorists as well. Dyllan Roof most likely thought he was fighting the good fight as well. Within tiny pockets of righteous idiocy you certainly find this on the right. However, the massive MSM and institutional support for righteous violence from the left dwarfs that nonsense as compared to today's rightwing. Show me a rightwing example of Berkeley. Show me a university where the professors encourage violent activism against the left and MAYBE you'd have a point.

Dan8267 says

It's time to talk about gun control.

These guns are already illegal to own privately. That didn't stop this guy. Neither would making all guns illegal, or perhaps you haven't noticed Europe lately.

There is a direct correlation between LEGAL gun ownership rates and lower crime rates. Although TBF, there are at least a few other factors at play. Areas of larger legal gun ownership have fewer blacks as well as smaller population per sq mile. % of blacks in an area is the highest correlated variable to murder rates, BY FAR. Therefore in areas of high black population %, gun control may be the egg whereas blacks and their murder rates are the chicken (see Baltimore, DC, Chicago, Detroit, etc...)

jazz_music says

CBOEtrader says

blacks and their murder rates

Could be Irish too if you keep them from getting decent jobs

The data disagrees with you. Poor latino/white/Asian communities have a fraction of the violent crime rates as black neighborhoods.

In fact, you can get pretty darn close to estimating the murder rate of cities, states, and even countries just based on their % of black population. I'm not pretending to know the answers but the data is very easy to access and model. All over the world, higher black % of population directly correlates to higher murder rates.

FortWayne says

He's either Muslim or leftist. Those are the crazy once constantly hating America for it's freedoms.

And if you're wrong about that will you admit to it?

Lemme quote Jazz music:

"I don't care about no stats."

jazz_music says

CBOEtrader says

The data disagrees with you.

When the Irish arrived in America and they were denied equality, basic needs went unmet, voila! the data were different. How about that?

Therein lies the point.

Color is never a factor.

There is nothing unusual about "these people."

Is this an example of ...... denial?
Don't you want to solve the problem? How can you when you deny the problem exists?

jazz_music says

When the Irish arrived in America and they were denied equality, basic needs went unmet, voila! the data were different. How about that?

Therein lies the point.

Color is never a factor.

There is nothing unusual about "these people."

www.youtube.com/embed/WhqhP58t5O0?t=45

And if I'm right, will you admit to it?

Dan8267 says

FortWayne says

He's either Muslim or leftist. Those are the crazy once constantly hating America for it's freedoms.

And if you're wrong about that will you admit to it?

jazz_music says

CBOEtrader says

The data disagrees with you.

When the Irish arrived in America and they were denied equality, basic needs went unmet, voila! the data were different. How about that?

Therein lies the point.

Color is never a factor.

There is nothing unusual about "these people."

You are showing your brainwashing. I never said there was something inherently different about "these people" (your quote, not mine). I am merely pointing out statistics.

I personally think its a cultural issue, exacerbated by the welfare plantation system.

Although lower IQ levels and a general inherent tendency towards violence should at least be researched as theories IF ONLY to debunk them and find an answer to the problem. You cant make a case for this being a poverty problem. Poor communities of other cultural groups have no where close to the black community's violent crime rates.

Regardless all of this is besides the point. THE POINT was that legal gun ownership rates are correlated to lower murder rates, although we are unsure if there is causation.

CBOEtrader says

I personally think its a cultural issue, exacerbated by the welfare plantation system.

Although lower IQ levels and a general inherent tendency towards violence should at least be researched as theories IF ONLY to debunk them and find an answer to the problem. You cant make a case for this being a poverty problem. Poor communities of other cultural groups have no where close to the black community's violent crime rates.

I think Jazz is pointing out "racism" as being the primary problem. He does have a point, but racism is not the primary problem as can be seen by President Obama being elected twice. It is just one of the problems.
They could research everything you mentioned, but that is taboo, and will no doubt lead to accusations of racism. Even Blacks who forcefully criticize the negatives of Black society are immediately shut down by Blacks and liberals. We have a serious problem with the Black community, but it's the Black community that won't face facts, and go into denial as can be seen from Jazz's response. Ironically, it hurts the Black society the most.
I think the solution lies with the Black community, and no one else.

rando says

OK, can you all see the "mark as uncivil" link now? Please use it if other users are being uncivil.

Yep, can see it now.

Some are suggesting this is the shooter. Unverified, ofc, but its still more evidence than anything we have for him being a simple "lone wolf".

Remember how MSM reported that the NC comet pizza gunman "liked" alex jones on FB? If there was a shred of right-wing connection for this Vegas shooter to anything right-wing, the MSM would be blaming Trump already.

The best explanation we currently have is that this guy was a left wing activist, who conspired to plan this massacre along with his leftwing friends.

Thanks anonymous dude :)

Here's another videowww.youtube.com/embed/JSq9T8Nuya0

Skip to minute 5:30 wherein the concert goer tell a the story of a Latin couple telling others they would all die tonight. Her conclusion was that this woman had prior knowledge of the shooting.

Far from definitive, but evidence points towards a conspiracy of leftwing terrorists.

FortWayne says

And if I'm right, will you admit to it?

Absolutely. A broken clock is sometimes right.

Now answer the question.

CBOEtrader says

Dan8267 says

It's time to talk about gun control.

These guns are already illegal to own privately.

Gun control is more than making things illegal. It's about control, law enforcement, shutting down production of the guns. Who's making those guns and not tracking them?

CBOEtrader says

Skip to minute 5:30 wherein the concert goer tell a the story of a Latin couple telling others they would all die tonight. Her conclusion was that this woman had prior knowledge of the shooting.

Far from definitive, but evidence points towards a conspiracy of leftwing terrorists.

jazz_music says

Even the conspiracy theorists

The eye witness from the event suggested the conspiracy. Her story is compelling.

Are you suggesting you know more than eye witnesses? Point out data that contradicts this theory, suggest a better theory, or admit you are full of sh*t.

Still no one knows why the gunman rampaged.

Las Vegas shooting: Police admit they are baffled by 'psychopath' Stephen Paddock's motivation for killing spree

ISIS claims Las Vegas concert gunman Stephen Paddock was one of its 'soldiers'; FBI denies report

There's even an article about FortWayne and CBOTrader.

Right-Wing Trolls Misidentify the Las Vegas Shooter

In their eagerness to frame the horrific Las Vegas shooting on Sunday night as a product of leftist anti-Trump zeal, cybertrolls have been pushing false rumors about the identity of the mass murderer.

www.youtube.com/embed/bYtYsLh-pPI

Listen to the experts. Leftist terror activist, possibly even an ISIS connection are both very legit theories.

The lone wolf crazy guy theory doesnt quite fit

So the FBI knows the motive but are not releasing it yet. This wouldn't happen for a clear cut lone wolf / gun nut.

Your first problem is watching Fox News.
www.youtube.com/embed/osUo48JR9kw

www.youtube.com/embed/hdT6d35oxxw

I must admit, this whole thing has been an interesting case to observe out of prejudices, even my own. While I am inclined to subscribe to the commie-TDS theory given the target and Coulter's law, Occam's razor... let's see what is announced and what is actually found. Both sides are eager to gloat.

CBOEtrader says

Listen to the experts. Leftist terror activist, possibly even an ISIS connection are both very legit theories.

So are the theories of the shooter on the grassy knoll, the mafia, and Che Guervo killing Kennedy. At least as creditable also.

PCGyver says

You need to be logged in. When you post as anonymous you can't see it.

Yes, and you need some number of comments and likes.

Brand new users can't mark comments as uncivil.

Dan8267 says

Your first problem is watching Fox News.

I don't watch fox news. I don't even own a TV. I watched Lt Col Shaffer's clip on YouTube and shared it. Are you suggesting Col Shaffer is biased? He may be.

anonymous says

Because he's an angry old white guy and we simply have to have someone else to blame to appease the Dotard in the White House ?

No regardless of his motivation, he is still 99% responsible for his own actions.

That extra 1% of misguided righteousness can and will multiply in society if its not called out though. Today we have an entire community of leftists who rrighteously rationalize violence against trump supporters, etc... Its gross. It needs to stop.

Nothing about this shooter's motivation is definitive. All we know for sure is he was a man who embraced the dark side of life's pain and suffering rather than bearing his personal burdon and thriving. He chose the path of Cain over Able. https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=8172s&v=44f3mxcsI50

CBOEtrader says

I don't watch fox news

And yet you posted a video from Fox News as evidence! Big mistake. Fox News is worse than no news.

PCGyver says

I believe they are suggesting that Fox News is biased but apparently that went over your head

I'm unequivocally stating that Fox News outright lies. It's propaganda, not news. It's not bias; it's pure deception.

Do we know yet if Paddock was taking any prescription drugs?


Nearly 70 percent of Americans are on at least one prescription drug, and more than half take two, Mayo Clinic and Olmsted Medical Center researchers say. Antibiotics, antidepressants and painkilling opioids are most commonly prescribed, their study found.

What a bunch of Failed Losers!

me123 says

Then why do you watch it all the time?

Fox's lies are well documented on other news programs and were exposed quite humorously on The Daily Show and The Colbert Report. Therefore your implication that a person has to be an avid Fox News watcher to know that Fox News is terribly dishonest is simply a lie and a stupid one. However, you do continue to aptly demonstrate the stupidity of the conservative right. Keep it up piggy.