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theoakman saysThe dems have the NJ governorship locked up. Christie did some real damage here by not showing up to work for 8 straight years.
Nope, there's just more brain dead Dems than brain dead Repubs. Murphy is going to ram it up everyone's ass, and that's without KY.
NJ is fucked.
Christie was elected twice while the Dem base hated his guts.
theoakman saysChristie was elected twice while the Dem base hated his guts.
Most Republicans despise Christie now.
Take a look at their base. Surprised that they’re easily duped, and sloooow to come around? Really?
Most people are voting Murphy because he's not the same team as Christie.
Just called it. Northam
Looks like a big win
Guess all the NRA money wasn't enough
joeyjojojunior saysJust called it. Northam
Looks like a big win
Guess all the NRA money wasn't enough
Wrong.
The people in VA didn't want a GOPe as a governor
NJ just went to the Communists.
Joey the TROLL, I know you're a little bit slow on most topics, but I'll try and explain it to you. VA Repub voters didn't want a NeverTrumper and member of the GOPe as a governor, they wanted CHANGE, like they got with Trump. Gillespie was vocal about NOT supporting Trump, he paid the price for it. He lost by a bigger margin then Trump did in the general.
The dems had a good night.
No they didn't. They won in areas where they were expected to win. Nothing to see here. There were no "surprises" in any of them.
but I doubt they mean anything.
If you don't think this is a backlash against Trump, you are not paying attention.
No please let them go on. NPR said this morning.
"They won on a Anti Trump message. Should the Democrats reinforce that message in the 2018 elections?"
To which I say God Yes! Please
The polls had Gillespe ahead all the time? Can you please post those polls, it wasn't what I was seeing
It shows that the special election results from earlier in the year were pretty good foreshadowing for what was really going on in the electorate.
You can always bend data whatever way you want, but these elections yesterday have nothing to do with the coming elections for house and senators in 2018. So I'll call it the way I see it. Every single comment on this thread is a complete and utter waste of your time. It's your time, so I don't particularly care, but for some of you it seems like this election yesterday actually matters for future elections. It doesn't.
Pepe won an election in NJ:
She is SO! IMMENSE!
Actually history has proven they do. You can believe it or not, but data has shown they do.
I'm not being a smart ass, seriously. I've never seen any correlation between a governors race in New Jersey and Virginia being extrapolated to a national level for house members and senators a year in advance. It doesn't make sense. I'd love to see the stats from 4 years ago for these same governors races and how it foreshadowed anything in the 2014 midterms. I'm not certain that history does prove any correlation.
To ignore it all and say it's meaningless is tantamount to sticking one's head in the sand.
You guys have been claiming that from the day he was worn in. That is your problem. Why I still think trump will win 2nd term-you guys have a fixed narrative and try and spin everything to your narrative.
Unless you're really into Virginia and New Jersey state level politics, and understand the nuances and can extrapolate those to a national level, I really don't think the results yesterday mean much.
If you think getting voter turn out levels to that of a Presidential election is explained away by a desire for me/others to fit a narritive ... (shrug)
"They won on a Anti Trump message. Should the Democrats reinforce that message in the 2018 elections?"
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1. VA is chock full of Government Bureaucrats commuting into DC, now outnumbering the rural parts of the State.
2. NJ is a solid blue state.
Clinton won both states.
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