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Hutch says

because there was no forgery!

Correct.

People need to ask themselves: is someone more credible when they admit a wrong, something inconvenient/bad, or correct an account, or does someone who never admits wrong or fault have more credibility? Integrity isn't a buzzword.

Rew says

Hutch says

because there was no forgery!

Correct.

People need to ask themselves: is someone more credible when they admit a wrong, something inconvenient/bad, or correct an account, or does someone who never admits wrong or fault have more credibility? Integrity isn't a buzzword.

The case becomes weaker by the day, and GA is known for extorting money w/ her often frivolous suits. It was definition a half-lie, why even bother going after weakest of all cases out there.

Hutch says

Sounds like liberals are logical because they know the meaning of forgery. Copying a signiture now thats forgery

She presented the doc as proof. ONly after inconsistencies emerge, she admits she wrote it-did she say when she revealed the yearbook that she wrote it-NO.

This is hilarious. We're debating the legal meaning of forgery because it came out the accuser copied Roy Moore's signature on the yearbook and presented it to the world as his writing.

Only after the skepticism was expressed did she admit she did it, and that long after.

I'm laughing my ass off. "Sure she faked - I mean added - some words and dates, but it doesn't mean the accusations are false."

Generally people think: "Falsum in uno, Falsum in omnibus." Popular legal tactic.

Franken, who probably didn't really do anything wrong AFAIK, is gonna resign, but the Dems and GOPe aren't going to get Moore in trade. Sad!

Looks like that civil suit is never coming. No surprise.

Franken's seat was toast had he stayed anyway. The Democrats are making a tactical move, not a moral one. They don't care if Franken raped 20 teen girls at an elementary school, they care more about keeping the DNC from losing another senate seat. Had Franken stayed, his sordid sexual history would have given the seat to the GOP. Pushing him out gives the DNC a pseudo-moral standing, and gives them a chance to keep the seat in the next election.

"This is how I looked when I was young, when I could bat my eyes and people would fawn over my strawberry blonde hair and believe me and I got shit for free. Now I'm almost a senior citizen with more bags than Publix, and I actually have to file bankruptcy to get out of obligations instead of just smiling and going Tee, Hee Hee! I had hoped faking this accusation would get me money and out of my problems, but people don't trust an old multiple time divorcee like they do a cute teenage girl... Life isn't FAIR! If I could go back I would have found a richer man to bag."

They actually held that drawing up? lol

Goran_K says

They actually held that drawing up? lol

They don't have a photo of her that doesn't have her tits and ass hanging out like a hoe?

Gloria Allred is the feminist version of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton media whore extortionists.

Goran_K says

his sordid sexual history

... of placing his hands over women's tits while grinning at the camera

anon_4460e says

Goran_K says

his sordid sexual history

... of placing his hands over women's tits while grinning at the camera

Uh and admitting on camera to needing to reflect on his history of sexual aggressiveness towards dozens of women some dating back 20 years.

Hutch says

If roy moore is so innocent then why hasn't he sued the washington post for slander like he said he was going to do?

I think its because he is a yuge liar, not to mention a pepophile

I see, so he is in the middle of a campaign, fighting the good fight against the evil propaganda leftists and so that makes him guilty-liberal logic as usual.

Wookieman here,

Hutch says

Hutch here,

WTF is this? Seems like copy of the Roidy character here. Be yourself man. If you're new here, sorry, just seems like a copy cat shtick. We can see your username without the nonsense.

These accusers have caused enormous harm to those that have actually been sexually ASSAULTED. I don't believe any of these accusers at this point. Any of them. I really don't care what "team" you're for either. My wife wouldn't do this, but some man is now going to be charged with rape for slapping his wife's ass while she's cooking something cause she's wearing yoga pants.

(Quick side note. Fat women can stop wearing yoga pants today. Not tomorrow. Not in the new year when they will "lose" the weight. Take them off and put on some loose fitting jeans. Or sweat pants that you maybe can wear to run and make that ass spankable. I'm not sure when or how it became acceptable for fat women to wear this clothing. I guess some trends don't discriminate. Oh boy I wish they did.)

Liberal logic again. Here she is saying Roy moore wrote the whole thing at the 10.40 min mark. Now she claims she wrote it and liberals still argue this is not a forgery. SHE and Gloria allred made the claim-on their own. Now they got caught in a lie and say oops I wrote-that is what is called a forgery.

lostand confused says

Liberal logic again. Here she is saying Roy moore wrote the whole thing at the 10.40 min mark. Now she claims she wrote it and liberals still argue this is not a forgery. SHE and Gloria allred made the claim-on their own. Now they got caught in a lie and say oops I wrote-that is what is called a forgery.

Fox news says she just added the place and date after the signature. Experts say the note is moores signature. Are you saying fox news is wrong and the writing experts are wrong. That she wrote the note and forged the signature to it? Odd how she used different hand writing for his part of the note than for her addition.

Anything to back this up with or are we going with (liberal) fox is wrong and it's true because I say it's true?

bob2356 says

Fox news says she just added the place and date after the signature. Experts say the note is moores signature. Are you saying fox news is wrong and the writing experts are wrong. That she wrote the note and forged the signature to it? Odd how she used different hand writing for his part of the note than for her addition.

Anything to back this up with or are we going with (liberal) fox is wrong and it's true because I say it's true?

Liberals, liberals. Here is Beverly saying Roy Moore signed it and including the DA. Now she admits she signed the DA. As for the signature writing experts-leave it tot he experts to prove the liars that make up the liberal media. Watch at 10.40-what is she saying
www.youtube.com/embed/tHPOm6yIy6k&t=661s


Oh regarding the signature expert wapo
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/08/exclusive-handwriting-expert-touted-by-washington-post-turns-on-gloria-allred-calls-for-activist-attorney-to-release-yearbook/
Need a shovel to dig deeper?

Wake me up when she retracts her story. Even if she did, it would be even odds that someone paid her to retract it.

lostand confused says

Liberals, liberals. Here is Beverly saying Roy Moore signed it and including the DA. Now she admits she signed the DA. As for the signature writing experts-leave it tot he experts to prove the liars that make up the liberal media. Watch at 10.40-what is she saying

You are having a lot of trouble with the concept of signature. Are you saying a)he didn't write any of it, b)he wrote it all, or c)he wrote it and signed it then she added to it? Don't do a bretibart weasel deal, pick one and stand by it. If he wrote the note then signed his name and she added DA, the place, and date. So what? If it's true (unlike you I'll wait for some actual real evidence to actually decide) then why is some 30 something guy writing love notes in a high school kid's yearbook no matter what she added. That's just creepy and perverted.

Dig deeper at what? Where did I say what I believe about it? I'm just asking. Are you saying fox is wrong? It's a very simple question.

Your video doesn't work.

Hutch says

Hutch here, first I don't think I "do it" like roidy.

Everybody is free to believe what they like. Do note the only one who has lied is roy moore. First he says he knows Gibson then he says he doesn't know Gibson. Which is it roy?

Don’t forget that he is 15 years older thdn his wife, and by Roy Moores own words, he first frll in love with her when he saw her at a dance, when he was 30 and she was 15. But, he’s a Republican and Republicans are immoral trash, so, shame the victims he’s innocent. In Jesus name, Amen. Praise be to God

bob2356 says

You are having a lot of trouble with the concept of signature

That is you. It is not me saying. She said he signed the whole thing in her speech. Now she says she signed part of it-contradicting her own claim. She claimed it was the judge and outlined what he signed, now she is saying what she claimed the good Judge signed-she actually put it in there. Tis is not me, you, breitbart-I know liberal logic will never allow facts.

Hutch says

Sounds like we are all in agreement, roy moore is a Republican.

Hutch says

Hutch here,

Sounds like we are all in agreement, roy moore is a pedophile

Accused. By your logic , if I accuse you of being a child killer, then you are. No proof needed. liberals.

Again it is up to real news breitbart to provide proof. Breitbart needs a Pulitzer-the lying fake media should peddle stories about alien abduction and rectal exams. Beverly and Allred present evidence-on their own-claiming that Moore signed . Now they claim that no Bevely signed/wrote parts of those which had been called into questions. That is classic forgery-the document is forged. Moore has consistently said he did not and also he has asked for it to be turned over to an independent third party review-so they can give their verdict. Allred refuses-even though she is the one who produced the evidence and now we know why.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/08/forgery-explained-beverly-young-nelson-gloria-allred-presented-notes-roy-moores-writing/

The fact that she was caught red handed adding writing and claiming it to be Moore’s takes away most of her credibility.

That’s why Roy Moore will win a senate seat.

So a proven liar gets caught in a lie, admits the lie, but still wants us to believe her about this outrageous accusation (which can neither be proven nor prosecuted) and change vote to a creepy Emperor Palpatine dude because ... uh, right.

Sorry, Leftists lose this year, and hopefully for many years to come. We do NOT need the CONSERVATIVE LEFT dictating morality to us! Especially since the #metoo phenomenon has proven that particular Emperor has no fucking clothes, and is jerking off into a potted plant!

Hutch says

Republican logic, writing a note in your own personal yearbook = forgery

No. Claiming that the note you wrote was written by the one you accuse is forgery. Both her and Allred claimed that the portions were written by Moore. Now they claim she wrote it-after everyone points out inconsistencies.

Liberal logic-yeah right, liberals have no logic and their patron saint is trigglypuff.

Hutch says

Hutch here,

Republican logic, writing a note in your own personal yearbook = forgery

Goran here,

Democrat logic, Actually claiming writing was all original, then get caught lying, called out, and having to admit it was added much more recently = still honest.

Goran_K says

Democrat logic

Republican logic: Admitting that B is fake is the same as admitting that A is fake. Also, admitting that you painted your Nissan is the same as admitting it is not a Nissan. Also, admitting that you put ketchup on your hot dog makes it no longer a hot dog. Also, admitting anything makes you a loser that should not be trusted.

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says

Admitting that B is fake is the same as admitting that A is fake. Also, admitting that you painted your Nissan is the same as admitting it is not a Nissan. Also, admitting that you put ketchup on your hot dog makes it no longer a hot dog. Also, admitting anything makes you a loser that should not be trusted.

Admitting you did something that you accused someone else of doing is fake.
Admitting you added ketchup to your dog-when you accused someone else of adding ketchup to trigger your allergies-that is fake.

Admitting something you did-the thing that you accused someone else of doing-yeah you be a fake.

lostand confused says

bob2356 says

You are having a lot of trouble with the concept of signature

That is you. It is not me saying. She said he signed the whole thing in her speech. Now she says she signed part of it-contradicting her own claim. She claimed it was the judge and outlined what he signed, now she is saying what she claimed the good Judge signed-she actually put it in there. Tis is not me, you, breitbart-I know liberal logic will never allow facts.

No answer to my simple question I see. Run and hide.

So what if she wrote some stuff in after his writing? Why are you not bothered by a 30 something year old perverted lecher writing this type of shit in a high school girls year book?

Damn it would be a really nice looking forest if all these fucking trees weren't in the way.

Goran_K says

The fact that she was caught red handed adding writing and claiming it to be Moore’s takes away most of her credibility.

That’s why Roy Moore will win a senate seat.

Looks like the voters agree that it's a forgery and they think the MSM is full of crap and Fake news:

bob2356 says

So what if she wrote some stuff in after his writing?

Except she and the Allred lady claimed Moore WROTE IT.

As usual liberals. It has come to this-so what she forged stuff? Do you need two shovels to dig deeper?

"It depends what your definition of is forged is"

Democrats already know that Moore will win:

anonymous says

who has been credibly accused of sexually abusing underage girls, to win and keep the party’s slim Senate majority? Or would he be such an albatross, causing bitter intra-party schisms, that it’s actually better for Republicans if the Democrat, Doug Jones, wins?

Maybe it will bring some sense into the feminazi word-where Gloria allred reigns supreme. Maybe, just maybe the feminazi rape of men might take a pause. Maybe feminzais finally realize equality means they get a job and not liveoff alimony and child support. Enogh of liberal crap.

Proof, due process-nope lynch mobs is just fine. Just like democrats supported slavery and fought to keep it and the KKK were democrats-dems always wrong.

lostand confused says

bob2356 says

So what if she wrote some stuff in after his writing?

Except she and the Allred lady claimed Moore WROTE IT.

As usual liberals. It has come to this-so what she forged stuff? Do you need two shovels to dig deeper?

Still ducking the first question. Do you say fox is wrong? Run and hide.

Still ducking the real issue. Did this creep write in the book or not? Run and hide.

The only shovels I will need is to dig you out of your hiding space.

lostand confused says

Admitting you added ketchup to your dog-when you accused someone else of adding ketchup to trigger your allergies-that is fake.

What about admitting to putting ketchup on a hot dog that Roy Moore gave you? What if expert hot dog analysts agree that they hot dog came from Roy Moore?
Tuesday will be interesting. If Roy Moore gets elected, we can look forward to a Senate ethics hearing. Trump better hope that Moore is clean. I'd hate to see the fallout from a guilty Moore hitting a beleaguered Trump.

anonymous says

Is it better for their candidate, Roy Moore, who has been credibly accused of sexually abusing underage girls, to win and keep the party’s slim Senate majority?

How many more seats will the republicans pick up when the rest of the democrat sleaze balls like Franken, Conyers, et al resign?

Democrats have a sexual harassment problem
The party’s leaders can't keep protecting sexual harassers and claim they’re the party of the resistance.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/28/16704580/democrats-sexual-harassment-conyers-franken-moore

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says

What about admitting to putting ketchup on a hot dog that Roy Moore gave you? What if expert hot dog analysts agree that they hot dog came from Roy Moore?

Which is what Roy Moore is asking for. he has denied the claims and in the yearbook case he has consistently asked for Allred to release the yearbook to a third party independent analyst for analysis. Allred has consistently refused-now we know why.

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says

If Roy Moore gets elected, we can look forward to a Senate ethics hearing.

Looks like he'll have to wait in line. There are plenty of politicians in line ahead of him. Will Franken let him cut the line?

lostand confused says

Which is what Roy Moore is asking for.

Doesn't he have a picture of the signature? Does he have an analyst who gives reason to doubt the claim?

Roy Moore claimed that he knew some of the accusers, but now claims he never knew any of them. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/roy-moore-now-claims-he-knows-none-of-his-accusers-contradicting-his-earlier-defenses/article/2642549
Should we now doubt all of Roy Moore's claim's? There were 30 people who either accused Moore or said that they heard of the encounters at the time that they happened. You would have to believe that they are all liars, and the Washington Post is doing a bogus hit job, and believe Roy Moore, who specifically and obviously lied about the issue.