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errc says

The whole “ratings are down” bullshit is just another lie, pushed by those too trapped by politics to see the world for what it is.

Super Bowl Ratings Slip To 8-Year Low

However, for the NFL and broadcasters pummeled with double-digit ratings drops this season, the number that really matters right now is the 47.4/70 in metered market ratings that yesterday’s Super Bowl delivered.

All in all, Super Bowl LII is currently the lowest rated since Super Bowl XLIV in 2010, when the New Orleans Saints thrashed the Indianapolis Colts on CBS.

http://deadline.com/2018/02/super-bowl-ratings-eagles-patriots-this-is-us-nbc-1202278181/

How do traditional ratings metrics account for how modern day Americans consume their football?

I don’t know of even one person who used to watch NFL, but doesn’t anymore. I may be one of those who have dropped from the roles, because I mostly only watch games on RedZone network.

This was by far my most profitable season ever, so hopefully NFL is here to stay

So wonderful. The NFL is fake sports.

They literally do almost nothing for troops/vets that isn't paid by the Pentagon. But they kowtow to anti-American extremist viewpoints.

They literally do almost nothing for troops/vets

Sounds like Republicans, so why the inconsistencies?

errc says

could have just bet the Eagles and won a butt load of money like we did.

How much did you win?

zzyzzx says

errc says

could have just bet the Eagles and won a butt load of money like we did.

How much did you win?

~5500

TwoScoopsPlissken says

They literally do almost nothing for troops/vets that isn't paid by the Pentagon. But they kowtow to anti-American extremist viewpoints.

When did the right to free speech and free expression become an extremist view? I thought that was one of the tenets of the United States--one of the foundations it was built upon.

Justin Timberlake Should Have Whipped Out His Dick During the Super Bowl Halftime Show So Twitter Can 'Worship' His Bravery in 14 Years.

HEYYOU says

Children play games,watched by children.
But it's a good way to escape reality for a while. To bad it's not permanent.
Spending money on sports is the only path to wealth.

I do not see the point of watching sweaty millionaires chase a ball for hours. Furthermore, sports' owners are probably the worst welfare queens of today. Poor people getting welfare have nothing on them:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/brookings-now/2016/09/09/top-10-biggest-federal-subsidies-for-pro-stadiums-hint-the-yankees-are-1/
If someone spends money on sports, they are supporting welfare queens/corporate welfare/Kaepernic (sp?) antiques etc. Seems that Left and Right should unite in boycotting sports.

drBu

As popular as ever you say? this was on the front page of the news today (for some reason).

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22336786/viewership-super-bowl-lii-patriots-eagles-down

I'm sure that someone here will appreciate this:

As much as I hate errc, and I really do with a passion ?, there’s really not much of a dispute on this. They haven’t changed the way they measure ratings (in a substantial way), plain and simple. They don’t account for any streaming or red zone viewers as errc points out. Combine that with the largest markets having shitty teams and of course the rating are down. I’m actually surprised they’re not lower.

For every person that stops watching football because of politics, you have to also remember someone will take their place almost certainly. I think younger people are less interested in football, but I think politicizing the ratings is kind of silly.

And if you want to point to SB ratings, I get it. I think a lot of people have Patriots fatigue though. A 10% SB rating drop wouldn’t have been surprising. I’d gues the NFL is just fine with the SB ratings that I’ve seen articles on even though they were lower.

All this jibberish aside. Did anyone dig the Justin Timberlake halftime show? Generally okay with pop, I thought it was pretty bad. Can’t pinpoint the issues, it was just not good. That seems to be the popular vibe on the show, but would love to hear from someone that liked it and why.

From a company that makes it is business to know about ratings:

http://www.multichannel.com/news/sports/ubs-survey-anthem-protests-top-reasons-nfl-ratings-declines/417971
With the season officially over, UBS Securities conducted a survey of 2,000 consumers to determine the cause of declining ratings for NFL football and came up with a conclusion that is sure to cause some heated debate: player protests of the National Anthem.

About 50% of respondents to a UBS online survey conducted in November said they don’t watch football because of the protests, up from a little more than 30% in 2016. According to UBS, 29% of those surveyed said they didn’t watch games because they weren’t as interested in the sport (compared with about 35% in 2016), while about 23% said they avoided games because they were not comfortable with players’ off-field behavior.

I'm actually curious to see what the CTE research will do to viewership long term. Youth participation is down for this reason and it stands to reason that viewership:interest will suffer accordingly

anon_bbe75 says

I'm actually curious to see what the CTE research will do to viewership long term. Youth participation is down for this reason and it stands to reason that viewership:interest will suffer accordingly

This is probably the bigger issue for the NFL. While there are some stunning highlight plays each and every week, I feel like the overall actual quality of the game is down. Throw in a smaller talent pool in 10 years with the CTE stuff and the longer term future (20 years out) might have some issues. For now, it's fine if you ask me. I don't think CTE has reared it's ugly head in the pro ranks or even college ranks yet (regarding participation - obviously there are current players who will no doubt have CTE).

HeadSet says

With the season officially over, UBS Securities conducted a survey of 2,000 consumers to determine the cause of declining ratings for NFL football and came up with a conclusion that is sure to cause some heated debate: player protests of the National Anthem.

I won't dispute the data. It's probably accurate. The issue is that this article is referencing a survey. Which again, they're probably displaying the results accurately. Unfortunately saying one thing and doing another is a thing in our world. I'm guessing a lot of those survey respondents were likely all bark an no bite. "I'm done with the NFL, all those pussies kneeling and shit!" After the survey is completed, they're on the phone with their bookie or heading down to B-Dubs to watch this weeks games with their bros.

Or there's the disenfranchised fan, like me cause my team sucks. I wasn't going to watch them anyway cause they suck. But let's say I'm a guy that hates the kneeling thing (I kind of actually am annoyed with it) of course I'll say that's why I'm not watching. Was my team sucking even a question? This appears to also be an online survey as well, a hotbed of accurate data accumulation as witnessed here at Patnet.

Not trying to invalidate what you linked/posted, I just feel like the whole NFL ratings things is being politicized by both sides and there's not a lot of honesty around the conversation. I've have never met someone in my life that watched a sport for years and then just stopped. Never. Stories and claims online don't count to me. I think big market teams sucking and the quality on the field are bigger reasons.

Yeah it's so popular the last time it was this unpopular it was because everyone lost their house that had their big screen NFL Game TV hanging in the Livingroom.

This time people intentionally sat it out, not because they lost their TV in the House.

I think Football is dying because the younger generations give a shit less about watching pro sports generally. Not just the kneeling.

But if the NFL thinks that badly bearded hipsters and blue hairs will replace the Boomer MAGA-hat wearers who are starting to pass away, they're gravely mistaken.

NFL is still by far the most exciting pro league - due to scarcity of games, the perceived impact of individual matches vs baseball/basketball/hockey is astronomical. The media does a good job of covering the league during the week vs other sports which incentivizes the viewer to follow the league. For me, the only tournament that can even compare to NFLs excitement level is World Cup Soccer.

WookieMan says

I just feel like the whole NFL ratings things is being politicized by both sides and there's not a lot of honesty around the conversation

It is not very difficult to imagine who would have been a perfect soviet comrade or isis bomber in another place and time...

errc says

zzyzzx says

errc says

could have just bet the Eagles and won a butt load of money like we did.

How much did you win?

~5500

I assume that you drove to Delaware for this?