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TrumpCuck says

You don't understand anything about homelessness. It's about mental illness, drug addiction, and alcoholism, NOT housing supply.

Most homeless like being homeless. A six month sentence of hard labor in the Arizona desert will change their mind.

Hassan_Rouhani says

How low the price for an apartment should go for the crazy junkies living on the street to be able to afford it? I mean you can beg or steal only so much and these drugs aren't gonna pay for itself, m-kay?

Even if it's free it won't work. They will turn the home into an inhabitable shit hole within 3 months. Cheaper to just send them to Haiti where they can feel more at home.

Strategist says

So, the majority of the IT jobs in the Bay Area can't be done remotely, anywhere in the country that has a Internet connection?

Didn't they say 20 years ago, almost everyone will be working from home or the beach? I don't see it

That happens in my wife's office. People work at least half their week from home. Have laptop, will travel.

Patrick says

The Solution to Homelessness

Obligatory.

Supply just needs to meet demand. Right now pricing shows that demand isn’t met, causing inflation

TrumpingTits says

Strategist says

It's about mental illness, drug addiction, and alcoholism, NOT housing supply.

So why are they predominately in the Blue States...which constantly preach to Red America about how they don't do enough for such people with said problems despite said Blue States not doing jack shit about it themselves despite all those higher taxes they impose on their residents?

Blue states don't know how to fix these problems, just like they don't know how to fix crime, welfare, terrorism, dictators etc.
Blue states think if you are nice enough, these problems will get solved. The Red states know being tough is what solves the problems.

Good group that supports more housing in CA:

https://cayimby.org/

HEYYOU says

Strategist says

Blue states don't know how to fix these problems, just like they don't know how to fix crime, welfare, terrorism, dictators etc.
Blue states think if you are nice enough, these problems will get solved. The Red states know being tough is what solves the problems.

Great humor!

WTF. It was a serious solution.

FortWayne says

Supply just needs to meet demand.

Demand from who? People living under the bridge? How much would they pay for a 1br
apartment? If they are so eager to find a cheap apartment why the fuck are they insisting on doing it in SF instead of apartment-hunting in Lincoln, Nebraska (or is it Iowa?). It's not like they are pursuing careers in Big Data, Deep Learning or whatever the fuck the latest buzzword is.

The real solution to homelessness



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Patrick says

Because those houses are not where the jobs are.

We need more houses where the jobs are.

Cities are on the way out, decentralization is the future. Become more self-sufficient, start your own small business online that you can do from anywhere, or go off-grid and grow your own food. If you guys think South Africa is a fluke, think again. Water was not meant to be diverted to overcrowded cities at the rate it currently is. All big cities importing water will run dry eventually. The ONLY reason big cities exist is tax base and government fees that feed the leeches.

Strategist says

WTF. It was a serious solution

Ignore him like most sane people do. He’s the ONLY person I have on ignore. His posts actually make me lose IQ points, as they make no sense and are just meant to aggravate.

Quigley says

Strategist says

WTF. It was a serious solution

Ignore him like most sane people do. He’s the ONLY person I have on ignore. His posts actually make me lose IQ points, as they make no sense and are just meant to aggravate.

Same here. It would be nice if people have refrained from quoting the fucker.

Giving AF unlimited belt fed ammo would probably be cheaper and more effective.

ThreeBays says

If it's too expensive, why not go somewhere else?

Because the jobs are here.

NuttBoxer says

Cities are on the way out, decentralization is the future.

We've been hearing that ever since the Internet, more than 20 years.

And yet the exact opposite has happened! It is more important than ever to be in a city if you want to be well paid, and the population knows it damn well, which is why their movement to cities is accelerating.

Cities are on the way in, and they need more housing.

Much much more housing. And good public transit, so cars will not be needed.

Patrick says

NuttBoxer says

Cities are on the way out, decentralization is the future.

We've been hearing that ever since the Internet, more than 20 years.

And yet the exact opposite has happened! It is more important than ever to be in a city if you want to be well paid, and the population knows it damn well, which is why their movement to cities is accelerating.

Cities are on the way in, and they need more housing.

Much much more housing. And good public transit, so cars will not be needed.

Yeah most of SF is single or double-story houses, plenty of room to build on top, however the traffic/parking situation needs to be solved as well. But mostly the zoning laws are just there to protect house prices.

mell says

Patrick says

NuttBoxer says

Cities are on the way out, decentralization is the future.

We've been hearing that ever since the Internet, more than 20 years.

And yet the exact opposite has happened! It is more important than ever to be in a city if you want to be well paid, and the population knows it damn well, which is why their movement to cities is accelerating.

Cities are on the way in, and they need more housing.

Much much more housing. And good public transit, so cars will not be needed.

Yeah most of SF is single or double-story houses, plenty of room to build on top, however the traffic/parking situation needs to be solved as well. But mostly the zoning laws are just there to protect house prices.

The tech industry did not start in SF. Bulk of it has started and still is in the suburbs. The move of some tech into SF proper is relatively recent fad.

Talking of THE solution to homelessness is as unfortunately disingenuous as discussing THE cure for cancer.

It's not one factor, and lack of a domicile is not even among the root causes, but rather one of the results. On other words, lack of a house is a symptom, ONE symptom; not the underlying disease.

The neighborhood where my industrial business is relegated to by zoning rules is also the neighborhood where homeless end up in our suburb. Therefore, I have daily experience spanning decades. Compassion fatigue best summarizes my point of view at this point.

I'm tired of do-gooders treating the symptoms of the problem and bringing care packages that really just maintain addicts in a perpetual state of just above Rock Bottom, so they never hit that and find the will and motivation to improve, or just perish in a spiral of malnutrition and jaundice. The homeless cherry pick through these care packages, take stuff they can eat right there or trade later, and messily throw the rest around the spot were they opened and rifled through it. Literal shit in the bushes, parks, and sidewalks. Disruptions, disturbances, confrontations, and aggressive panhandling driving business away before my eyes. People with no concept of property marauding through the community all day and night 7 days a week, stealing everything including stuff nailed and bolted down.

Decent people who fall on hard times come and go in the area; they go about their business without making chronic nuisances of themselves, act civilized, and eventually get themselves back on their feet despite all the challenges in the economy and housing market. People like this make up a small percentage of the homeless in my area.

For the anticivilized chronically homeless, I'm short of actionable solutions without a continent like 1800s Australia to ship them off to.

Patrick says

We've been hearing that ever since the Internet, more than 20 years.

And yet the exact opposite has happened! It is more important than ever to be in a city if you want to be well paid, and the population knows it damn well, which is why their movement to cities is accelerating.

Think longer term. Centralization has been the direction for hundreds of years. But now look at the organic food movement, the record number of young farmers, with no background in farming, tiny houses, internet business, home gardens, droves leaving California. The growing backlash against cellphone over-use, people leaving social media, central government bloated beyond recognition, toppling in many countries. These are all de-centralizing trends, and they just started growing.

In my own search to get out of the city more often, minimalise my life, and look outside the box when it comes to where and how I live, I've come across many people on the same journey. Long term trends like this are slow to change, but they are changing. There is not a single large city on the planet that is sustainable in it's current form, and the change that's coming won't seek to revitalize them, it will eliminate them.

Patrick says

And yet the exact opposite has happened! It is more important than ever to be in a city if you want to be well paid, and the population knows it damn well, which is why their movement to cities is accelerating.

Cities are on the way in, and they need more housing.

and there lies the problem..

Paychecks are only part of it, the cost of living is the other BIG piece of it..

It's NOT what you make, it's what you SAVE..

Higher salaries in the city means squat if the cost of living in the cities is even higher, and you can't afford to live there. It doesn't matter what the salary is, if the only housing you can afford is a closet in someone elses house.

Once the youngsters understand that simple point, the better off they'll be (and they'll be living out in rural areas).