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APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Patriots! Trump should give these guys medals of FREE!dom for butchering a libby propagandist.

Give them a couple of hot blondes as wives. With cameras.

Saudis are dead men walking. The petrol economy will eventually fade and they’ll end up eating each other. Islam is only stable under authoritarian regimes. Hard to be authoritarian when you’re broke.

Goran_K says

Saudis are dead men walking. The petrol economy will eventually fade and they’ll end up eating each other. Islam is only stable under authoritarian regimes. Hard to be authoritarian when you’re broke.

Does not take long for people with no brains, education, skills, common sense, or Islamic values to eventually go broke.
Can you name even one Islamic country that produces something that takes hard work or brains?

Strategist says

Does not take long for people with no brains, education, skills, common sense, or Islamic values to eventually go broke.
Can you name even one Islamic country that produces something that takes hard work or brains?

Wail a minute. There is an Islamic country that produces something that takes hard work or brains.....Saudi Arabia. They invented "oil" You think it got there on it's own? Duh!

Strategist says

Can you name even one Islamic country that produces something that takes hard work or brains?

Exactly. Iran and Afghanistan were beautiful countries before hardline Islamist took over.

Afghanistan circa 1960s



Iran circa 1960s



Anything besides "Fuck Islam" isn't harsh enough.

Goran_K says

Iran and Afghanistan were beautiful countries before hardline Islamist took over.

We arent exactly innocent in that process.

Why has our deep state been pushing for Islamism for 40+ years?

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

Nope, not whataboutism

lol. It's the definition of whataboutism.

Any time someone questions a Trump policy--the whataboutism answer is, but, but, but what about Obama.

Or when someone questions the Saudis murdering a journalist in their embassy--the whataboutism answer is but, but, but what about Iran.

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

Bob, why are you and tatupu running away from answering my questions?

I'm not answering any more of your loaded questions until you start answering mine.

Loaded question?? lol. All Bob asked was for you to provide ANY evidence backing your ridiculous conspiracy theory about who paid for Obama's education. You made this claim--is it that hard to show why you said it?

I know the goal is to distract from the murder of a journalist by any means necessary, but let's try to stay on topic.

Aphroman says

You will destroy the Shiites.

CBOEtrader says

Goran_K says

Iran and Afghanistan were beautiful countries before hardline Islamist took over.

We arent exactly innocent in that process.

Why has our deep state been pushing for Islamism for 40+ years?

Probably because instability in the Middle East makes it weaker and less resistant to the West wishes politically.

Bottom line, for me at least, Islam is cancer and the left/Democrats think they can tame it and use Islam as an ally. They are dead fucking wrong. Islam is using the left to get what they want, but once they do, they will throw democrats off buildings just as easily in Michigan as they did in Syria.

Goran_K says

Bottom line, for me at least, Islam is cancer and the left/Democrats think they can tame it and use Islam as an ally. They are dead fucking wrong. Islam is using the left to get what they want, but once they do, they will throw democrats off buildings just as easily in Michigan as they did in Syria.

Uh--Trump is the one who is trying to make Saudi an ally now. Last I checked they are the #1 backer of fundamentalist Islam and terrorism. If anyone is trying to use Islam as an ally it's Trump.

tatupu70 says

Trump is the one who is trying to make Saudi an ally now

Uh, Saudi Arabia has been an "ally" for quite a while, and every single US president has been complicit in Saudi crimes:



I was hoping Trump would be different, but no.

At least we still have many yuge and disruptive wins by having Trump as our president: record low jobs, stock market highs, lowered tensions with N. Korea, some real pushback against oppressive political correctness, etc.

I don't want to argue over Trump's accomplishments--I think that's been done to death.

I just found it ironic that a poster was talking about how Dems are trying to make allies with Islam while Trump is busy covering up a murder for Saudi Arabia.

tatupu70 says

Trump is busy covering up a murder for Saudi Arabia.

Covering up for Saudi arabia? That's quite a stretch.

Goran_K says

Covering up for Saudi arabia? That's quite a stretch.

Perhaps you need to catch up on the news?

tatupu70 says

Perhaps you need to catch up on the news?

Which would prove that Trump is covering up a murder by Saudis?

Maybe you should stop watching MSM news?

Goran_K says

Which would prove that Trump is covering up a murder by Saudis?

yep

haha, no.

Aphroman says

Why is Trump covering up the murder?

Aphroman says

Goran_K says

tatupu70 says

Perhaps you need to catch up on the news?

Which would prove that Trump is covering up a murder by Saudis?

Maybe you should stop watching MSM news?

Why is Trump covering up the murder?

He’s doing no such thing.

Funny thing is the guy who got gutted and chopped up was a loud mouth lefty who thought he could talk shit to Saudi princes without any consequences.

Guess he learned the hard way. lol

Goran_K says

Funny thing is the guy who got gutted and chopped up was a loud mouth lefty who thought he could talk shit to Saudi princes without any consequences.

Guess he learned the hard way. lol

I'm glad you think murder is funny.

tatupu70 says

I just found it ironic that a poster was talking about how Dems are trying to make allies with Islam while Trump is busy covering up a murder for Saudi Arabia.

Aphroman says

Why is Trump covering up the murder?

My dear naive friends. Do you know cops and courts go easy on cold blooded criminals if they squeal on their friends?
Trump is the cop.
Saudi is the murderer.
Saudi friends are the Islamists.
So simple.

Aphroman says

Goran_K says

Aphroman says

Goran_K says

tatupu70 says

Perhaps you need to catch up on the news?

Which would prove that Trump is covering up a murder by Saudis?

Maybe you should stop watching MSM news?

Why is Trump covering up the murder?

He’s doing no such thing.

Funny thing is the guy who got gutted and chopped up was a loud mouth lefty who thought he could talk shit to Saudi princes without any consequences.

Guess he learned the hard way. lol

I thought Trump said he believed Saudi Arabia that they didn’t murder him?

His exact words were “the crown prince had denied any knowledge of the murder” and Pompeo said he would wait to make a decision about the incident until Saudi Arabian officials completed their investigation.

Wow, sounds like Trump is totally advocating for murder!!!!!!! engage full TDS

tatupu70 says

Goran_K says

Funny thing is the guy who got gutted and chopped up was a loud mouth lefty who thought he could talk shit to Saudi princes without any consequences.

Guess he learned the hard way. lol

I'm glad you think murder is funny.

Oh no his murder sucked. But his path there is funny in its stupidity. I wouldn’t mouth off about the Saudi royalty as a lefty journalist unless I was packing heat and protected by security 24/7. Even then the odds would still be death.

tatupu70 says

I'm glad you think murder is funny.

Did you read about how Obama murdered Osama?
It was so cool.

Strategist says

tatupu70 says

I'm glad you think murder is funny.

Did you read about how Obama murdered Osama?
It was so cool.

He got off easy. Two shots to the head from an HK556? They should have gone Saudi embassy on him. Oh well.

Strategist says

Did you read about how Obama murdered Osama?
It was so cool.

You're comparing the murder of a Washington Post journalist with the military killing the leader of Al Qaeda who had killed thousands of Americans?

Goran_K says

He got off easy. Two shots to the head from an HK556? They should have gone Saudi embassy on him. Oh well.

Imagine how much information we could have gotten out of Osama, if only we were willing to torture him. We will never know how many lives could have been saved if we knew everything Osama knew. Damn Obama, and his nice guy style.

tatupu70 says

Strategist says

Did you read about how Obama murdered Osama?
It was so cool.

You're comparing the murder of a Washington Post journalist with the military killing the leader of Al Qaeda who had killed thousands of Americans?

Aahhhhh, so now it's OK to murder.

Strategist says

Aahhhhh, so now it's OK to murder.

Yes, there are laws dictating when the US may kill. They were followed in the case of Bin Laden.

I've seen no such justification from the Saudi government.

Strategist says

Imagine how much information we could have gotten out of Osama, if only we were willing to torture him

Likely nothing. Torture has been shown to be highly ineffective.

tatupu70 says

I've seen no such justification from the Saudi government.

Trumps fault

tatupu70 says

Strategist says

Imagine how much information we could have gotten out of Osama, if only we were willing to torture him

Likely nothing. Torture has been shown to be highly ineffective.

Guantanamo Bay and water boarding experts disagree.

tatupu70 says

Strategist says

Aahhhhh, so now it's OK to murder.

Yes, there are laws dictating when the US may kill. They were followed in the case of Bin Laden.

I've seen no such justification from the Saudi government.

Since when do the Saudis follow our laws?
Obama watched a lot of murders by the Saudis. He did nothing, and neither did his supporters. My, what a difference an election makes.

tatupu70 says

Strategist says

Imagine how much information we could have gotten out of Osama, if only we were willing to torture him

Likely nothing. Torture has been shown to be highly ineffective.

You mean Osama would never reveal secrets if he was tortured enough? ROFL.

Strategist says

You mean Osama would never reveal secrets if he was tortured enough? ROFL.

Yep--that's what I mean.. What usually happens is terrorists lie during torture.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-fbi-interrogator-torture-ineffective/
https://www.newsweek.com/2016/05/20/science-shows-torture-doesnt-work-456854.html

Strategist says

Imagine how much information we could have gotten out of Osama, if only we were willing to torture him. We will never know how many lives could have been saved if we knew everything Osama knew. Damn Obama, and his nice guy style.

There is no reason for us become like 7th-century barbarians from the desert. Start doing things like they do, and soon become one of them.

tatupu70 says

Loaded question?? lol. All Bob asked was for you to provide ANY evidence backing your ridiculous conspiracy theory about who paid for Obama's education. You made this claim--is it that hard to show why you said it?

I know the goal is to distract from the murder of a journalist by any means necessary, but let's try to stay on topic.

Sorry, I've been asking several questions since the beginning of the thread.

Are you going to answer why Obama did not push any penalties - nor was it demanded of him by Politicians and the Media - when Saudi Arabia executed multiple gays and witches in 2011 and other instances in the Heart of his Presidency?
https://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/13/world/meast/saudi-arabia-beheading/index.html

Why was the Iran Deal made when Iran tortures and executes gays and protesters?

Hassan Afshar, 19, was hanged in Arak Prison in Iran's Markazi Province on July 18, after he was convicted of "forced male-to-male anal intercourse" (‘lavat-e be onf’) in early 2015, the NGO said in a statement Tuesday.

https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-News/Iran-executes-gay-teenager-in-violation-of-international-law-463234

What penalties did Erdogan receive for imprisoning more journalists than any country on Earth, including China?
https://cpj.org/reports/2017/12/journalists-prison-jail-record-number-turkey-china-egypt.php

Yet a Muslim Brotherhood Shill gets whacked, then the Failed Neoliberal Establishment demands instant action!

Until I get answers to these questions, I'm not answering questions that came after mine.

And yes, I have lots of evidence that bin Talal and other Muslim Brotherhood symps arranged money for Obama and others to study, and way beyond that, even. But it's not going up until I get answers to the questions you're dodging.

Indeed, i think I've asked it in other threads, The Silence is Deafening

tatupu70 says

Any time someone questions a Trump policy--the whataboutism answer is, but, but, but what about Obama.

Or when someone questions the Saudis murdering a journalist in their embassy--the whataboutism answer is but, but, but what about Iran.

Nope.

When the Media and Politicians call for Saudi Arabia to be sanctioned and/or the Leader to step down over the Murder of a Terrorist sympathizer....

But embraced the Iran Deal even though Iran was torturing (inc. forced sex changes) and executing Gays and Protesters before and after it was made.

That is:

Whataboutery?
But rather, Hypocrisy of the highest order

That, and Sympathy for the Muslim Brotherhood is rampant at State and in some Intel circles.