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Shar'ia in Ireland


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2018 Oct 18, 9:01pm   8,456 views  43 comments

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@Curious2

I'm thinking what you said about when Islam begins to grow.

Shar'ia in Ireland

Classified cables exchanged in 2006 between the State Department and the US Embassy in Ireland -- and published by Wikileaks in 2011 -- revealed that the administration of George W. Bush was trying to find out whether the European Council for Fatwa and Research and other such groups were working to legitimize Sharia (Islamic) law in Western Europe.

According to James Kenny, the American ambassador to Ireland at the time, a certain journalist claimed that outside of Qatar, Ireland had the strongest Muslim Brotherhood presence, and that al-Qaradawi "runs Islam in Ireland."

The White House's concern may have been warranted concerning some Muslim Brotherhood zealots in Ireland. But there are other Irish Islamic leaders who are more willing to compromise with Ireland's values, if not assimilate. In his 2014 book, Islam and Education in Ireland: An Introduction to the Faith and the Educational Challenges It Faces, Dr. Ali Selim -- the ICCI spokesman and secretary general of the Irish Council of Imams -- called for a reform of Ireland's education system, to make it more "inclusive" for Muslims. Among the changes he advocated was gender segregation in gym, music and art classes, where there could be "a clash of values" with Islam. Selim was interviewed in the Irish press and asked whether he favored Sharia to be implemented in Ireland. He responded that only in the case where Muslims are a majority is Sharia likely to be enacted.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/12733/ireland-israel-boycott

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18   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 19, 5:52pm  

bob2356 says
Stretching a point? You mean like this

Accurate.

I described an attempt by the most powerful, well funded Islamic group to segregate students as per Shari'a.

This is in keeping with the theory that Islamist minorities seek not to integrate, but demand special treatment.
19   Blue   2018 Oct 20, 10:36am  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
This is in keeping with the theory that Islamist minorities seek not to integrate, but demand special treatment.

That is absolutely true at any time and place on the planet for the last 1500 years ever since their psychopath gay god created this religion.
20   Strategist   2018 Oct 20, 11:56am  

HEYYOU says
No worse than Christian Republicans trying to tell women what they can do with their bodies.


Fucking pussys.
When I'm with a woman, I tell her what I want to do with her body, and do it. I always get thanked.
21   Blue   2018 Oct 20, 2:53pm  

HEYYOU says
No worse than Christian Republicans trying to tell women what they can do with their bodies.

"HEYYOU" understand your frustration, but your comparison is like fender bender vs giant asteroid hitting earth.
22   curious2   2018 Oct 20, 4:13pm  

Blue says
gay god created this religion.


Islam was created by the dead charlatan Mohamad (feces be upon him) and his followers. As far as history can tell, they were into females, including Mohamad's marriage to a 6yo girl. They claimed to represent the god of Abraham. If you can prove the god of Abraham was gay, that might really change minds. It would explain the virgin birth, and why he had no wife nor even a girlfriend, so you may really be right.

Otherwise the only gay god I know of is Matthew Lush:

https://www.youtube.com/user/GayGod

There might be others, e.g. ancient Greek or Roman, IDK the whole list of possibilities.
23   bob2356   2018 Oct 21, 6:33am  

Strategist says
When I'm with a woman, I tell her what I want to do with her body, and do it. I always get thanked spanked.


You made a typo. I fixed if for you.
24   bob2356   2018 Oct 21, 6:38am  

curious2 says


Your link says, "The study confirms the perception that Muslim women have more children than non-Muslims in Western Europe, but shows that the gap is not as large as many believe." The study compares populations within the Netherlands.


The article talks about a number of countries and factors. Read the words instead of looking at the pictures.
25   bob2356   2018 Oct 21, 7:57am  

curious2 says

In the UK:


How do you always manage to find such nonsense. If, possibly, could, assumes, might, suggests, estimated, concluded, likely, according to, etc. etc. Hint, when you see something the contains those words in every paragraph it's either a bunch of meaningless speculation, sell newspapers sensationalism, or ideological nonsense.

The paper suggests that if migration continues at the same rate but refugee movement stops, the UK will have the highest overall population of Muslims in the EU, at 13m, making up 16.7 per cent of the population.

The report "supposes" migrants from the middle east will continue at a record influx of asylum seekers fleeing conflicts in Syria and other predominantly Muslim countries levels for the next 32 years? . Totally contradictory but interesting.thought. I can see why you like it since you frequently argue contradictory positions. On the same subject. "Overall, an estimated 43 per cent of all migrants to the UK between mid-2010 and mid-2016 were Muslims,". . Pretty odd how they picked those dates. Just happened to be the peak of the syrian war crises. What a totally unexpected coincidence. Sort of like the sun rising in the east.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-in-the-uk-an-overview/
Top ten countries of origin by country of birth and nationality, UK 2017
1 Poland 922,000 9.8
2 India 829,000 8.8
3 Pakistan 522,000 5.6
4 Ireland 390,000 4.1
5 Romania 390,000 4.1
6 Germany 318,000 3.4
7 Bangladesh 263,000 2.8
8 Italy 232,000 2.5
9 South Africa 228,000 2.4
10 China 216,000 2.3

Very strange how mulsim countries are only 7% of immigrants while 43% of the immigration. Do you suppose researchers at oxford doesn't know how to do math?

The whole thing is just silly. nonsense of patching unrelated bits and cherry picked facts together but it sells newspapers.
26   Blue   2018 Oct 21, 11:41am  

"bob2356" lets take your (linear) math, Pakistan 5.6%+ Bangladesh 2.8% = 8.4% these are just tow countries, this number should be more if you add other countries.
Besides, the real point is Muslims make NON leaner impact on societies, they destroy from roots.
Back then, people like you were living in places like Pakistan thinking everything is fine. Look now what happened.
Lets stop importing them to create another hell here in few generations.
27   Strategist   2018 Oct 21, 12:35pm  

bob2356 says
Top ten countries of origin by country of birth and nationality, UK 2017
1 Poland 922,000 9.8
2 India 829,000 8.8
3 Pakistan 522,000 5.6
4 Ireland 390,000 4.1
5 Romania 390,000 4.1
6 Germany 318,000 3.4
7 Bangladesh 263,000 2.8
8 Italy 232,000 2.5
9 South Africa 228,000 2.4
10 China 216,000 2.3

Very strange how mulsim countries are only 7% of immigrants while 43% of the immigration. Do you suppose researchers at oxford doesn't know how to do math?

The whole thing is just silly. nonsense of patching unrelated bits and cherry picked facts together but it sells newspapers.


Lets break it down by religion, as the real threat comes from religion. Islam in particular.
Crime and terrorism is highly correlated with higher Muslim immigration in all of Europe.
28   Strategist   2018 Oct 21, 12:40pm  

bob2356 says
Strategist says
When I'm with a woman, I tell her what I want to do with her body, and do it. I always get thanked spanked.


You made a typo. I fixed if for you.


That's so nice of you. Sometimes spanking precedes the thanks.
29   curious2   2018 Oct 21, 1:42pm  

bob2356 says
curious2 says


Your link says, "The study confirms the perception that Muslim women have more children than non-Muslims in Western Europe, but shows that the gap is not as large as many believe." The study compares populations within the Netherlands.


The article talks about a number of countries and factors. Read the words instead of looking at the pictures.


I did read the article, but it does not really help your case. "In Austria, for example, Muslim women had a total fertility rate (an estimate of lifetime births per woman) of 3.1 children per woman in 1981, well above the 1.7 average for the majority Roman Catholic women. By 2001, the rate for Catholics had fallen to 1.3, but the Muslim rate had fallen to 2.3...." In other words, Muslims were having 80% more children per capita than Catholics in 1981, and 80% more children per capita than Catholics in 2001. The article pushes an agenda (the one you want to believe) by using words to obscure the numbers, but the percentages continue decade after decade. With birth rates consistently 80% higher than the indigenous population, Muslims are replacing Catholics.

Also, your article avoids mentioning the fact that the most religious go on to have the most children, especially in the case of polygamous Muslims. As a result, surveys in Britain show that younger Muslims are actually more Islamic and intolerant than older Muslims, precisely opposite to Christians where the younger are generally less religious and more tolerant than the older. The British dole subsidizing polygamous Muslims (while prosecuting polygamous Christians) is producing a jihadi farm of intensely religious and intolerant Muslims, many of whom demand Sharia in Britain. Note that these Muslims do not plan on moving to a Muslim country that has Sharia already; they demand Sharia in Britain.

Your article does make one interesting point, that Muslim immigrants' birth rates vary significantly by country of origin, but they are always higher than indigenous birth rates. Moreover, immigrants from the more religious Sunni countries have the highest birth rates, and that is where most of the migrants (aka "refugees") are coming from. Iranians (most likely Shia) in Norway had the smallest disparity, though still higher than native Norwegians; in contrast, Somalis (nearly all Sunni) in Norway had triple the native birth rate.

bob2356 says
How do you always manage to find such nonsense.

Your refusal to consider facts that tend to disprove your beliefs does not make those facts "nonsense." You can always follow the links to see where the facts came from. For Britain, I tend to link The Independent, The Telegraph, ITV, BBC, and The Guardian. You linked sponsored 'think tanks', which tend to push a POV at the behest of a sponsor. Your comments show a religious insistence on your preferred beliefs regardless of facts including numbers, and frankly a lack of respect for other users who disagree with you. I do remember your false accusations against me, showing you lack integrity, which is also related to failing to respect other people.

Blue says
(leaner) math


Do you mean linear math?
30   Blue   2018 Oct 21, 2:18pm  

'linear' - fixed it. Thanks.
31   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 21, 11:21pm  

Another example of Sharia spreading everywhere, even Ireland. The poor refugees and amazing immigrants who only want to integrate still perform FGM despite the Ban.

It is estimated that 5,790 girls and women living in Ireland have experienced FGM and some 2,639 girls here may be at risk of being subjected to it.

“It is happening here and girls are being taken out of Ireland to be cut,” she says, explaining that we are only likely to hear about it being done here if something goes wrong and it comes to the attention of health professionals, who must report it.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/female-genital-mutilation-it-s-happening-here-girls-are-being-taken-out-of-ireland-1.3374033
32   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 25, 4:59pm  


www.youtube.com/embed/hrXBw691WqI

Nothing compares to Islam.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6317761/Sinead-OConnor-announces-conversion-Islam-video.html

Gerry Adams gave a talk about how the youth's Revolution will be against.... The Sassanach The Patriarchy.
33   curious2   2018 Oct 25, 5:05pm  

This is tragic. I had read Sinéad O'Connor was going nuts, including alienating her family and alluding to suicide, but I had no idea she could become so totally bonkers as to become Muslim.
34   Rin   2018 Oct 25, 5:25pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Nothing compares to Islam.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6317761/Sinead-OConnor-announces-conversion-Islam-video.html


Jesus F'cking Christ!

I'll quote from of her own song's 'Nothing Compares 2U' ... "Where did I go wrong!?"

Seriously, does anyone recall Cat Stevens and his hippy 'Peace Train' and then, a decade or so later, he agrees with the Fatwa to have Salman Rushdie killed?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_Stevens%27_comments_about_Salman_Rushdie

Robertson: You don't think that this man deserves to die?
Y. Islam: Who, Salman Rushdie?
Robertson: Yes.
Y. Islam: Yes, yes.
Robertson: And do you have a duty to be his executioner?
Y. Islam: Uh, no, not necessarily, unless we were in an Islamic state and I was ordered by a judge or by the authority to carry out such an act – perhaps, yes.
[Some minutes later, Robertson on the subject of a protest where an effigy of the author is to be burned]
Robertson: Would you be part of that protest, Yusuf Islam, would you go to a demonstration where you knew that an effigy was going to be burned?
Y. Islam: I would have hoped that it'd be the real thing.

So much for that lovey dovey Kumbaya hippie! This is the problem with New Age losers who switch to Islam instead of Buddhism or Taoism.
35   curious2   2018 Oct 25, 5:51pm  

Rin says
does anyone recall Cat Stevens and his hippy 'Peace Train' and then, a decade or so later, he agrees with the Fatwa to have Salman Rushdie killed?


Yes. I loved Cat Stevens' music, but then he joined a horrible religion that bans music. He hardly plays anymore, except for a few exceptional events that are approved by a mullah in service to Islam.

Now we lose Sinéad O'Connor. It's tragic. She claims to be happy, but it sounds more like someone's first time on heroin. If they keep at it every day, it doesn't end well.
36   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 25, 6:04pm  

Well, Sinaed has a history of pursuing short term highs. She is a manic depressive, methinks.
37   Patrick   2018 Oct 25, 6:27pm  

curious2 says
Now we lose Sinéad O'Connor.


Impressed that you put the fada (Irish accent mark) in the right place! I've been studying Irish Gaelic for quite a while now. On a Mac, you type option-e and then the vowel to get the accent over it. Or you can just copy and paste from an existing example.

And yes, we have lost Sinéad. Conversion to Islam is a one-way operation. Anyone who attempts to renounce Islam must be killed:

3 – What is the ruling on the apostate?

If a Muslim apostatizes and meets the conditions of apostasy – i.e., he is of sound mind, an adult and does that of his own free will – then his blood may be shed with impunity. He is to be executed by the Muslim ruler or by his deputy – such as the qaadi or judge, and he is not to not be washed (after death, in preparation for burial), the funeral prayer is not to be offered for him and he is not to be buried with the Muslims.

The evidence that the apostate is to be executed is the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “Whoever changes his religion, execute him.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 2794). What is meant by religion here is Islam (i.e., whoever changes from Islam to another religion).


https://islamqa.info/en/answers/20327/why-is-the-apostate-to-be-executed-in-islam

This is of course the diametric opposite of freedom of religion, a fundamental Western value.

Islam does not belong in the West at all. It is inherently and implacably opposed to freedom of religion, freedom of speech, democracy, and pretty much every other Western value.
38   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Dec 8, 2:48pm  

Irish Professor stabbed 13 times, and unto death, by Islamist in Paris for Insulting The Prophet.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6471059/Irish-lecturer-stabbed-death-Paris-insulted-Mohammed-says-Pakistani-killer.html

@Patrick @Curious2
39   HeadSet   2018 Dec 8, 3:39pm  

Goran_K says
.223 is still a great cure for radical islam.


Yea, but they got the 7.62
40   Strategist   2018 Dec 8, 4:06pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Irish Professor stabbed 13 times, and unto death, by Islamist in Paris for Insulting The Prophet.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6471059/Irish-lecturer-stabbed-death-Paris-insulted-Mohammed-says-Pakistani-killer.html


The French allowed a loser and a Muslim, from a terrorist country Pakistan who did not seem qualified to be admitted to a University. He fails the very first year, gets kicked out of the University, even gets banned from the campus, and the French renewed his visa? LOL. How dumb can you get?
41   curious2   2018 Dec 8, 6:02pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Irish Professor stabbed 13 times, and unto death, by Islamist in Paris for Insulting The Prophet.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6471059/Irish-lecturer-stabbed-death-Paris-insulted-Mohammed-says-Pakistani-killer.html


Even France24 and RTÉ have the story.

"A source close to the investigation said the teacher, who has not been named, was stabbed 13 times, including in the throat.

He was declared dead at 12.35 pm, and a knife was found at the scene.
"

The suspect ""tried to flee but two security guards from the university managed to hold him down until police arrived,” a student called Shaima said."

"A police source said the suspect, who is in custody, was a former student at the university who was born in Pakistan in 1981 and was not previously known to police."

This being France, I assume the authorities will return the knife to the 37yo suspect, and Sting will sing Inshallah at a benefit concert for legal defense.

Strategist says
Muslim, from a terrorist country Pakistan


Pakistan is a terrorist state. Insulting the dead charlatan Mohamad is a capital offense in Pakistan, and many Pakistanis demand the murder of blasphemers even outside Pakistan. Anyone who supports freedom of speech anywhere in the world must oppose Pakistan.
42   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Dec 10, 7:22pm  

I knew Arabs raided as far as Ireland, but didn't know there was a song about it.

We Irish have a Ballad of when the Muslims abducted an entire town in West Cork, and enslaved the Irish in North Africa

The Ballad (Sack) of Baltimore https://t.co/yvrScVv17i via @YouTube

— A n u b i s ☥ (@3Anub) December 11, 2018

43   Patrick   2018 Dec 10, 9:37pm  

Lol, everyone I have met that has been there or dealt with Pakistan says the same thing.

2nd most corrupt country on earth, after Nigeria.

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