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No I mean I'm back from this crazy Alternate Liberal Universe, where people that pay 1million dollars for a 1200 sq ft ranch houses, is running the country unchallenged. Inflicting their will on hapless saps and the middle class. Via reckless policies as their housing budget. With the blase attitude, like the middle class has been living off the fat of the land for too damn long.
And they were cheered! ... at first.
No I mean I’m back from this crazy Alternate Liberal Universe, where people that pay 1million dollars for a 1200 sq ft ranch houses, is running the country unchallenged. Inflicting their will on hapless saps and the middle class. Via reckless policies as their housing budget. With the blase attitude, like the middle class has been living off the fat of the land for too damn long.
And they were cheered! … at first.
Please tell me how different things were in 2006. Or 2004. or 2002. or 2000. Or 1998. Or 1996. Or 1994.
I'll be waiting.
No leader of the United States or his Legion of Minions has never put the burden of American paying money to a corporation.
There's nothing else I need to explain to you, because this isn't about quantifying how bad Clinton, Bush or Obama sucked any more or less. This is about an morally inept Party that Hijacked the Democracy using the youth and clueless to get that power, then expecting them to not even watch, let alone participate. I say is any of this getting through to you? (The Boy's sharp as bowling ball)
Queue "Coming out of the dark" to a montage of every thing that sucked the last FOUR years.
No I mean I’m back from this crazy Alternate Liberal Universe, where people that pay 1million dollars for a 1200 sq ft ranch houses,
Uh, I don't think liberuls had anything more to do with that than the cons did. On the contrary, there was all these self-made conservative men that thought they were being big businesspersons by buying all these crapshacks.
No I mean the Liberals in California still buying chicken shacks for 750K to a Mil, I'm talking about Pelosi speaker of the house from the Blue district 8. Living in the fortress with dis discontempt for the middle class.
I've come to the realizations that Californians in general are out of touch, I mean yall elect the Terminator for Governor, the Character let's face it, Arnold is imbecile, then vote no, on stopping Mexican murderous Drug lords, because the Liberal bleeding hearts, are worried their live in Nany or Gorge the Gardener's folks back home, might not fare well, if you cut their GDP.
Besides they need that money to buy machine guns and grenades.
No leader of the United States or his Legion of Minions has never put the burden of American paying money to a corporation.
There’s nothing else I need to explain to you, because this isn’t about quantifying how bad Clinton, Bush or Obama sucked any more or less. This is about an morally inept Party that Hijacked the Democracy using the youth and clueless to get that power, then expecting them to not even watch, let alone participate. I say is any of this getting through to you? (The Boy’s sharp as bowling ball)
Queue “Coming out of the dark†to a montage of every thing that sucked the last FOUR years.
I honestly have no idea how to parse what you've written. Is English your primary language?
No leader of the United States or his Legion of Minions has never put the burden of American paying money to a corporation.
On the flipside of this infringement of your liberty to be a dumbass we got requirements that 85% of premiums have to go to care.
This mandate stuff is also groundwork for no rescission and no preexisting condition limitations.
It's not that big a deal. Back in 1993 some very conservative Republican senators cosponsored something almost identical.
Sometimes losing liberty is a good deal for everyone, ya know?
And nobody "Hijacked the Democracy" either. The only people hijacking our government is all the professional liars getting paid to fool you, something they've done a very good job of.
So, Republicans are back in the House.
Senate remains decidely Democrat.
We all "loose" (thanks tpb), it'll be deadlock, name calling and idiots crowing about how they won. That's because for some people, it's more important to have the appearance of winning than it is to actually have winning results.
lol ... ellie, good morning .... now, who is it that is normally credited with focusing on results over appearences? conR's or libD's? lol ... just had to toss that out. enjoy the day.
lol … ellie, good morning …. now, who is it that is normally credited with focusing on results over appearences? conR’s or libD’s? lol … just had to toss that out. enjoy the day.
Unfortunately, it'll be biz as usual in Washington. But in the Utah mountains, it's gorgeous, the critters are making all sorts of noise and one of my cats brought me a dead gopher. It's one of the nicest gifts she's ever given me... my garden appreciates it too.
Good morning to you, Bap.
They opposed it because it was just as bad as what was proposed in 1993, from what I recall.
There's nothing really "bad" about ACA. Assuming you want more people covered, this is how you have to do it if you can't get single-payer / the "public option".
This was acknowledged in 1993, what Romney got passed in MA.
It's just been demagogued to death by the professional and amateur liars on the right like you.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123670612
There’s nothing really “bad†about ACA. Assuming you want more people covered, this is how you have to do it if you can’t get single-payer / the “public optionâ€.
I read the legislation…it’s bad. What I mean by ‘bad’ is ‘it is written by fools who don’t take into consideration the effects it has on people’s behavior in response’.
Please disprove the above facts that I just mentioned, for starters.
All your facts above show that the current system is fucked by politics and demagoguing. The McDonalds thing being a primary example. They still haven't evaded the 80% MLR requirement, that will take further bullshitting by your side to accomplish apparently.
As for tort reform,
http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/31/would-tort-reform-lower-health-care-costs/
And I note you don’t dispute what I said about healthy people paying the the fine instead of getting the insurance. W/o that, ObamaCare as designed is fucked and you know it.
No, it just means higher premiums for people in coverage, and higher subsidies for people who can't afford it.
Good is better than perfect. In a rational system of governance, legislation would be amended to address problems.
Of course, we're pretty fucking far from rationality right now.
if you don’t fix the Third Party Payer Problem
Getting more people into the system and getting care will help somewhat. If this were an actual functioning process we'd then have the opportunity to look at what Japan, Canada, and the other Eurosocialists are doing to keep their costs in line.
How could we fund social security outlays for today’s retirees if people were given the option to not pay in in their working years but pay a cheaper fine instead? Same thing.
Seniors are already covered by medicare. I also don't have a problem with higher insurance rates across the board for covered people. I didn't carry any insurance from age 25-30, but I don't think the young should bear a disproportionate burden. Everyone, ideally, should pay the rates of their insured group. It'd be great to extend this to include incentives for physical fitness, like the Japanese are starting to try to do.
Hence why the third party payer problem is so big and will continue to be.
The third party payer is a boon in Japan, Canada, Australia, NZ, Sweden, Norway, France, Germany. I believe the Dutch actually have a semi-privatized health insurance system with highly regulated insurance providers, similar to what ACA is going to do I guess.
Does your car insurance cover the cost of oil changes? No. Insurance is meant to protect you from catastrophic loss. Yet, we don’t treat health insurance that way and it is just insane.
ObamaCare as designed can’t function w/o getting the young & healthy subsidize the old & sick, period. ... Hence why the third party payer problem is so big and will continue to be.
if only there was a system to compare this to, but sadly there isn't... oh, wait, most of the rest of the world.
you guys make these statements where you claim a thing which has functioned quite well in many other countries for decades and longer could simply not work, as if saying so with an air of authority makes it so.
Doctors in America practice ‘defensive medicine’.
they don't actually. the current medical system here has generally been designed to fix existing problems or to cover it up with drugs. its shifting and more preventative actions are happening as insurance companies see its a good investment but for the longest time the insurance companies focused on ignoring or denying problems until they became an unavoidable issue.
I had to vote Republican all across the board today. I didn’t want to, but all of the other party candidates aren’t allowed to be listed by their party. Since I can’t be sure what party or principals the “NA†party is, I had to go with the party I thought was better than this.
Now that the Liberal Bubble broke, perhaps the Libs may learn a lesson, that while they think they are smarter than everyone else, and want govern in those they Deem Ignorant’s proxy. doensn’t mean the dumb, dull and ignorant want them to.
Because as you can plainly see, while we spend 20 cents in two dimes to bypass a 10 dollar fuse, on a million dollar house, or 2K motor home, and can’t always tell by the wording of the measures, just what in the hell the issue really is they are voting for.
They can still Vote, Because in the Country the United States of Ehmericuh!
We can still Vote, and Vote on every single measure on the Ballot where those that are consistently on the crappy end of the political stick, try to distort democracy for their favor, at every one else expense.
And we can always put someone else in that can do for me, instead of somebody that is trying to do for me when I didn’t ask them to.
You "HAD" to vote Republican because you can relate to rednecks, bigots and rich white men that want to put their thumbs down on Mexicans and Blacks. There is no other reason anyone votes for one side or the other. I voted Democratic because they passed the Civil Rights act of 1964, Womens voting rights, Healthcare Reform, etc. What have Republicans ever done for blacks, mexicans, women, homosexuals outside of wave Obama monkey banners at their modern day klan rally's?
People vote on racial, gender, sexual and religious biases not the issues that you claim. Quit lying to yourself.
we win
neener neener, smoke a weiner.
Exactly, once again the white man is in power. Too bad blacks, mexicans and the poor dont realize all they have to do is get a college education so that these moral wins of yours effect them less. See, regardless of which party is in the office I still win because I am growing my family with a focus on my childrens education....unfortunately, snoop dogg and Ice Cubes thug nation are the ones to lose here.
Lets see if you can over turn the Emancipation Proclamation next.
You Nomograph says
“Looser! Looser! Looser!â€
When you want to call someone a loser, it helps if you at least spell loser correctly. It’s not like spelling antidisestablishmentarianism or anything like that.
Just sayin’.
He was referring to the goat he was humping.
Bap33 says
we win
neener neener, smoke a weiner.
You also won with Prop 19 because now you can continue to imprison snoops thug nation and the poor at alarming rates for smoking marijuana...I dont think they like smoking weiners.
shrekgrinch says
Doctors in America practice ‘defensive medicine’.
they don’t actually. the current medical system here has generally been designed to fix existing problems or to cover it up with drugs. its shifting and more preventative actions are happening as insurance companies see its a good investment but for the longest time the insurance companies focused on ignoring or denying problems until they became an unavoidable issue.
You don't have many friends who are doctors do you? I know an eye doctor/surgeon who orders a brain scan if a patient even mentions headaches. Why? Even if he thinks it is just a vision/eye issue, he orders the scan because he's afraid of getting sued. He might even get sued years down the road - he has to cover his ass because of the ambulance chasers. When he told me this a few years ago, the number of issues uncovered in the multitude of scans was a big fat zero. So, instead of using all of his knowledge and skill acquired in the multiple years of medical school, he's making a medical decision based on what a lawyer might do to him later.
Then, McDonalds and about 30 other companies threatened to drop their plans in total unless Obama gave them a waiver. Obama caved.
These Libs only see and hear what they want to.
And for what I have seen, the only thing in that bill is "Closing the Donut hole" is the latest "ONLY" defense Lame Duck Liberals are using in defense.
Well you don't need to breech peoples constitutional right to Close a Donuthole. Just shove some sweet dough into the center, it'll close up nice.
Oh that's what they did, with my Fucking Dough... Never mind.
You “HAD†to vote Republican because you can relate to rednecks, bigots and rich white men that want to put their thumbs down on Mexicans and Blacks. There is no other reason anyone votes for one side or the other. I voted Democratic because they passed the Civil Rights act of 1964, Womens voting rights, Healthcare Reform, etc. What have Republicans ever done for blacks, mexicans, women, homosexuals outside of wave Obama monkey banners at their modern day klan rally’s?
People vote on racial, gender, sexual and religious biases not the issues that you claim. Quit lying to yourself.
Clarence! Where you been? Long time no see.
Bless your little reverse racist heart.
unfortunately, snoop dogg and Ice Cubes thug nation are the ones to lose here.
You Promise?
You also won with Prop 19 because now you can continue to imprison snoops thug nation and the poor at alarming rates for smoking marijuana…I dont think they like smoking weiners.
Ah crap, I lose to!
I better go smoke a bong to drown my misery.
You “HAD†to vote Republican because you can relate to rednecks, bigots and rich white men that want to put their thumbs down on Mexicans and Blacks. There is no other reason anyone votes for one side or the other. I voted Democratic because they passed the Civil Rights act of 1964, Womens voting rights, Healthcare Reform, etc. What have Republicans ever done for blacks, mexicans, women, homosexuals outside of wave Obama monkey banners at their modern day klan rally’s?
People vote on racial, gender, sexual and religious biases not the issues that you claim. Quit lying to yourself.
Clarence! Where you been? Long time no see.
Bless your little reverse racist heart.
Glad to be back, reversing the effects of your stupidity! When is the last time you actually supported a black agenda in the right wing?....now you expect me to lay in bed with you just because you say you have changed.
unfortunately, snoop dogg and Ice Cubes thug nation are the ones to lose here.
You Promise?
More indirect hate hey Trout....why would anyone look forward to the demise of an entire group of people unless they were a narcissistic Republican.
I'm sorry but the world would be a better place with out the "Thug Nation" that goes for White Trash gang bang wanna bes, or the Latino "Thugs", the Asian wish they were black "Thugs", well no actually we could do with the Liberal Media selling their Shit to our youth making more Thugs.
You of all people should be hipped to that, as long as folks like that inspire kids to throw their lives away on the street behind a gun, then the better chance they aren't in the class rooms, gobbling up those College Scholarships competing with the rich kids from the Liberal media moguls selling that crap to those kids.
For the racebaitor:
""Since taking power through a military coup d'etat on June 30th 1989, the National Islamic Front regime adopted a policy of divide to rule in Darfur Region. It has in fact resorted to inciting tribal conflicts and promoting the sentiment of Pan Arabism through encouraging and supporting the local Arab tribes to systematically attack and dislodge the indigenous African tribes from their homelands. This ethnic cleansing campaign targeted the ‘Fur’ the Massaleet and the ‘Zagawa’ tribes. It initially started against the Fur who lost more than 3000 men, women and children when 13 local Arab tribes led a campaign of terror in the area from 1988 to 1990. Two years ago and as a result of the government's decision to allocate land historically owned by the Massaleet tribe to some of the Arab tribes who recently migrated to the area, the region was also thrown into turmoil when the tribal conflict between the Massaleet tribe and some of these Arab tribes erupted resulting in massive displacement of the people, loss of lives, property, and loss of livestock. This was followed by another equally bloody conflict between ‘Reziegat’ and ‘Zagawa’ tribes. In total 18 tribal conflicts of this nature have taken place in Darfur during the last ten years resulting in substantial loss of life, massive destruction of property and displacement of local people.""
Who do you blame when there aint a white American man for you to target?
Who do you blame when there aint a white American man for you to target?
Black gold, Texas tea....
I don't know if race is really the issue, but behind the scenes I'm sure there are various countries and corporations lobbying (and bribing) for what they are trying to make happen, relative to natural reources.
Then again, that's totally a guess.
GoodBye Liberals, you must think they are leaving? Oh wait you probably mean
not voluntarily like this Teahadist:
College Scholarships
aren't college scholarships sort of um, government subsidies?...
the biggest drag of all this gloating is all that these continual little ironies are just lost on you guys.
is all that these continual little ironies are just lost on you guys.
No it's not lost on me at all, I'm a tenth grade drop out dip shit.
Currently writing algorithms and business objects for a University that grades their grading system, from program version selection to course outcomes for cohesiveness and relevance. Because their top guys at this University made a mess of it.
People vote on racial, gender, sexual and religious biases not the issues that you claim. Quit lying to yourself.
Pretty amazing statement. Obviously, with this statement, Clarence is describing himself along with the reasons as to why he casts a vote. Perhaps that explains why 90+% of Blacks voted against the Liberal Hillary Clinton in the primaries. What was that ideal the MLK talked about? I guess making judgments about a person based on the "content of a one's character" is only relevant to Clarence if he perceives that "character" to be housed in a black skinned body. An amazing example of racism if there ever was one.
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I'm watching CNN. The libs are getting hammered. I guess playing the race card didn't work all that well for them.