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IT IS CLEAR THAT THE republican party platform and thus every REPUBLICAN is against womans health, RACIST and disparaging to minorities.
They have no choice, God told them to.
Y
2013 Jan 16, 1:43am
u sound like 121212 reincarnated...
Such a bunch of idiots moaning and bitching about owning assault rifles and large clips with hardly any background checks.
FOOLS!
AverageBear
2013 Jan 16, 1:47am
I've always noticed that people over 30 have a better command of their
finances, career and life than those under 30. The biggest problem today is,
everyone wants to be large right out of the gate. Nobody wants to put in time
discovering them selves and paying their dues. It's like everyone thinks they
are all born with an honorary degree from the school of hard knocks.
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"That's the truth, Ruth".....
Y
2013 Jan 16, 1:52am
An elementary analysis of your writing style reveals your true identity:
Welcome back, 121212 !!
So before you dismiss Capt's obvervations as BS, it'd best be for you to open your eyes to the college culture, because it's dominated by white guilt; has been for at least 20 years, and I see no signs of it letting up.....
No you can easily dismiss CptIdiot's arguments as he is a bigoted racist
AverageBear
2013 Jan 16, 2:04am
If I understand it correctly, he thinks there is no reason to feel bad about
what our ancestors did 170 years ago, if there are still people doing it now.
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It sounds like you are putting words in Thomas' mouth. There is a HUGE difference between acknowledging the past and perpetuating it. Do you think the average English dude cares, or for that matter, feels bad about me being Irish? I don't think so....I think there's a fine line between acknowledging past atrocities, and perpetuating white guilt, and more often than not, some (not all) liberals run across that line..... I think the most obvious problem facing kids of all colors is those 'household units' without a Dad on the scene. Statistics here in the US for minorities w/o Dads face a harsher reality. I do think that welfare (at this current level and attitude of the general population of elected officials on both sides of the aisle), is perpetuating this sad, sad reality. Welfare/Entitlements is stripping a person's ability to earn their own living, and discover how well they can do things on their own....Fostering white guilt surely won't help the average minority try and understand what it means to bust your ass and enjoy the wealth of your efforts.
I was 30 before I got my first computer. Before that I did flooring and lived
hand to mouth for a good solid 14 years.
Here we go - this is the perfect example of what I said earlier - Conservatives use an example of one (or a few) in a country of 50 million poor. Even if you can name 100,000 poor who moved into the middle class as you did - that only shows the probability of staying poor if born poor is 99.8%. Not great odds, if you ask me.
Think about how remarkable what you did is, especially in today's context. You were able to afford to accept as payment for labor a computer (and were able to find a barter partner). What if the flooring business didn't allow you to be able to keep the computer - what if you needed to pawn it to feed the family? Then, you were smart enough to see opportunity with the computer, and teach yourself how to use it. The same guy gave you a job repairing computers - maybe he felt he owed you still - but still remarkable considering you were a flooring guy. He is the kicker though - after that, you were lucky (with persistence, I'm sure) to land a job as a Senior BASIC developer with only one year experience fixing computers. That is quite a stretch, I think. This is one of those things where your persistence was combined with being in the right place at the right time.
All of this harkens back to the raw numbers. Children from poor families have less than a 1% chance of ever making it into the top 5% in income. (Economic Mobility Project: Across Generations).
We change that, and since a high percentage of the poor are minorites, and we fix racism.
Whites are guilty of oppression of minorities in the USA.
I'm certain that is a historical fact.
FortWayne
2013 Jan 16, 2:16am
Whites are guilty of oppression of minorities in the USA.
I'm certain that is a historical fact.
It was always majorities oppressing minorities for personal benefit of free labor or other tangible benefit. Plenty of people who are white skinned have been oppressed or killed too when they were in minority and there was something to gain from it.
Tenpoundbass
2013 Jan 16, 2:17am
Even if you can name 100,000 poor who moved into the middle class as you did - that only shows the probability of staying poor if born poor is 99.8%.
You know as a flooring installer for 15 years, I bet I have a stronger grasp of the socioeconomic reality of this country better than 90% of those that can recite all of the liberal Studies from memory.
What I found in poor black neighborhoods, those well past their 30's, had a house, a car, supported their family in relatively Middle class standards, just as well as the white neighborhoods. They became the guy setting up construction jobs, or landscaping accounts instead of the guy in the back of the truck. They owned the truck, it took years for them to save up and build what they had but they had it. And how dare the WHITE Liberals marginalize them by calling them stellar examples as if they are incapable of achieving goals and realizing dreams. Who's really the racist in this country?
Now for everyone of those guys, there are ten guys that chose to hang out on the corner store on a milk crate and drink Malt Liquor all day. There's nothing any social engineering can do for these people.
But there's just as many poor white trash in the trailer parks working the meth lab.
That is why Stalin and Hitler rounded folks up like that and dispatched them. And it is the same place they are headed if they cast their lot in with the Socialist Libs that claim they have their backs today. These guys will NOT fit in the Left utopia, it will defy the Liberal agenda and they will be dealt with accordingly.
Buba might prefer to stick to his own, but even he is repulsed by the Liberals blatant racism. Wake up Black people, the Liberals are only using you as a token pawn to force their agenda. They don't see warm cozy houses, painted in pastels with a white picket fence for you. You are institution fodder and nothing else.
Buba belives you can do and achieve the same thing can, where as Jarred cowardly uses you as their mannequin to advance their agenda of Socialism.
Tenpoundbass
2013 Jan 16, 2:23am
All of this harkens back to the raw numbers. Children from poor families have less than a 1% chance of ever making it into the top 5% in income. (Economic Mobility Project: Across Generations).
How many anyone makes into the top 5%?
Oh yeah that's right! Only 5 fucking percent.
Do you clowns read this bullshit before you post it?
Hell 95% of the country can expect to not be in the top 5%.
And to hear you guys tell it, the top 5% in this country are all White.
When the last names of the top richest people in this country are getting harder and harder to pronounce.
Whites are guilty of oppression of minorities in the USA.
I'm certain that is a historical fact.
It was always majorities oppressing minorities for personal benefit of free labor or other tangible benefit. Plenty of people who are white skinned have been oppressed or killed too when they were in minority and there was something to gain from it.
There is nothing to gain from oppressing minorities, it is just based on racism and fear and does actual damage to society morally and economically.
Tenpoundbass
2013 Jan 16, 2:34am
Dirt poor people are just happy to have a job, they don't feel exploited and believe it or not. They do try to maintain the idea that their situation is only temporary. This isn't 1600 Europe where you're born into servitude and die into it.
Funny with all of this talk about oppression and menial dead end jobs. It wasn't that long ago, when there were large population of Whites that were Livid that illegal Aliens and immigrant workers, took their jobs from them. While Libs claimed they were Jobs nobody wanted. Now that these jobs are dominated by minorities, that the Liberals had the biggest hand in engineering. It's once again the White guy's fault that they even have those jobs, that the same White guys once felt were stolen out from under them.
These jobs were always stepping stones to get to the next place, they were NOT meant to be career paths. Which is what Libs try to label them as.
When the last names of the top richest people in this country are getting harder and harder to pronounce.
Exactly, is it Buffet like Jimmy or Buffet like a dinner. I could never get that one.
Sounds suspiciously French.
Tenpoundbass
2013 Jan 16, 2:55am
Exactly, is it Buffet like Jimmy or Buffet like a dinner. I could never get that one.
Sounds suspiciously French.
Now Who's Cherry picking?
Dirt poor people are just happy to have a job, they don't feel exploited and believe it or not.
Your a "dirt poor people" statistician? How many have you interviewed to come to your conclusion?
Tenpoundbass
2013 Jan 16, 3:10am
Your a "dirt poor people" statistician? How many have you interviewed to come to your conclusion?
It's a dirt poor thing for people who came from humble leggings, an apologist Caliberal wouldn't couldn't understand. It's not an insult.
Or in your world perhaps it is, what with dirt being the color of black and all.
How many anyone makes into the top 5%?
Oh yeah that's right! Only 5 fucking
percent.
Do you clowns read this bullshit before you post it?
It actually breaks down like this:
Bottom 20% probability of making top 5% income: .2%
Bottom 40% probability of making top 5% income: .6%
Now,
Top 5% chance of maintaining top 5% income: 66%
You are basically 330 times more likely to be in the top 5% in income if you are born into it than if you are born in the bottom 20%. You are only 110 times more likely to have a top 5% income if you are born into it than someone in the bottom 40% (READ, nearly bottom HALF)
That is economic mobility? That is the land of the opportunity? Land of opportunity if your Dad is rich maybe.
Your a "dirt poor people" statistician? How many have you interviewed to come to your conclusion?
It's a dirt poor thing for people who came from humble leggings, an apologist Caliberal wouldn't couldn't understand. It's not an insult.
Or in your world perhaps it is, what with dirt being the color of black and all.
Sounds like you have a lot of white guilt.
To a certain extent making prudent choice in the united states such as taking education seriously, choosing right major, not having kids before being done with education, not getting bad credit as a result of credit cards/department stores cards late payments/defaults increases the chances that one will be better off financially in america. It is not guaranteed, but odds are in your favor. At the same time, it is definitely easier to maintain your standard of living all other things being equal if you are born into wealth via inherent advantages such as parents being able to hire tutors, better school districts, better nutrition, lack of exposure to violence/other destructive behaviors in lower class communities and most importantly access to connections.
Tenpoundbass
2013 Jan 16, 3:33am
Hey I've said here countless times, I'd gladly like to see a 10% tax increase across the board to fund a federal healthcare system over Obamacare.
It's not that I'm against raising taxes, I'm against giving away more money for any administration that doesn't have the health of America as a whole in best interest. Instead of picking pet people and projects, raising billions to give the money with out any oversight. Only for it to come to light years later just how much fraud was involved when at the time the money was being handed out, it was suspected by most that there was fraud going on. But the Left and Right were to busy to do anything about it. Because you can't point out the fraud on either side, with out the constituents of the other side taking it as a direct insult. Even though they know damn well it's a free for all.
NO thank you, I'll have none of that.
Rents and taxes prevent many people from saving money/accumulting capital that will allow them to eventually generate passive income and not have to work anymore. The best gift one can give to graduating college students is allow them to live rent free at home after graduation for about 5 years or until they get married (assuming that the student is hard working and responsible and actially will save the money). That is much better than financing their college education or kicking them out as soon as they get a degree.
finehoe
2013 Jan 16, 4:57am
Before 2000 at least, anyone that says there is no upward economic mobility in this country, was blaming people for their own personal short comings.
Actually, more like 1971.
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A school district in Wisconsin said they will review a high school diversity class that exposed students to radical leftist thinkers and promoted a critical race theory that alleges white people are oppressors.
The “American Diversity†class was taught to students at Delavan-Darien High School in Wisconsin, Fox News has learned.
“They’re teaching white guilt,†one parent told Fox News. “They’re dividing the students. They’re saying to non-whites, ‘You have been oppressed and you’re still being oppressed.’â€
The parent, who asked not to be identified, has an 18-year-old son who was enrolled in the class and became alarmed after she looked at some of the handouts provided to the students.
“I felt it was indoctrination,†she said. “This is a radical left agenda and ideology that is now embedded in our school.â€
The parent said the students were taught “if you’re white, you’re oppressing. If you’re non white, you’ve been a victim.â€
According to handouts obtained by Fox News, “white privilege†was defined as “a set of advantages that are believed to be enjoyed by white people beyond those commonly experienced by non-white people in the same social, political, and economic spaces (nation, community, workplace, income, etc.â€
Students were also given a handout from University of Texas professor Robert Jensen arguing that people don’t have complete control over their fate.
“There is not space here to list all the ways in which white privilege plays out in our lives, but it is clear that I will carry this privilege with me until the day white supremacy is erased from society,†he wrote.
Students were also instructed to visit the toy aisle at Wal-Mart for a hands-on illustration of white privilege.
“They were told to go and count the number of dolls that were representative of blacks as opposed to whites,†the parent said. “It’s meant to divide and victimize non-whites and condition whites to feel guilty and to be more passive.â€
She brought the material to the attention of school officials and eventually to Robert Crist, the new superintendent of the Delavan-Darien School District.
“A lot of red flags go up in my mind when I look at the materials,†Crist told Fox News. “Her concern has merit.â€
“Ideally, you would want to present one theory that might be way on the left and another theory that may be way on the right and if you find one in the middle you can present that, too,†he said. “Now you have a well-rounded discussion in my opinion.â€
Crist said he believes the class was being taught long before he became superintendent. The course is currently undergoing an evaluation.
“The class will not be taught again until that process is fully complete,†Crist said.
He said the teacher, who is young, used the materials to “stimulate the thought process.â€
“I don’t believe he intended to indoctrinate anybody,†he said.
But the material that has been presented to students in the conservative community did concern the superintendent.
“I’m out of an old-fashioned school,†he said. “I believe in helping kids understand the basic objectives of curriculum and not use some radical material to get a student to support some kind of a special theory.â€
The parent also reached out to the Young America’s Foundation – who first shed light on the controversial course.
YAF staff member Brendan Pringle, called the course “race-baiting.â€
“This course offers a snapshot of a larger trend that has plagued university curriculum for years and has only recent crept into high school classrooms,†he wrote in an essay. “Professors and teachers are increasingly telling white students that they are part of the problem of racism, and are telling black students that they are second-class citizens. This race-baiting technique is an attack on American values and can only breed bitterness and envy.â€
At the same time, Crist said schools have a responsibility to prepare students for the real world.
“There are a lot of radical people in our country and across the world,†he said. “They need to be ideally attuned to some of the different thought patterns that different cultures may have.â€
But did the teacher cross the line?
“Ideally a teacher is not supposed to share their own viewpoint,†Crist said. “With this type of class, the teacher looks for controversial items like that to stimulate the kids into discussing things in regard to cultural diversity.â€
The parent said that’s all well and good – but the teacher only offered students one perspective and were not allowed to debate the theory.
“This teacher has free reign to pick the material that he wanted to use,†she said. “He chose extremely radical left thinkers. He didn’t give those kids alternative information.â€
The parent said last summer her son got a job washing dishes – working sometimes 10 hours a day.
“I was so proud of him,†she said. “And then to have a teacher tell you that you have these unearned privileges – that because you are white somehow you infringe on other people’s rights. It’s really just awful.â€