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Think about it, do you really want to be retirement age, in the aftermath of this clueless generations agendas? Fuck they don't even know it yet, but as I pointed out yesterday, and the more I think about it, the more I'm right.

Those that burn through their life's earning at both ends, and retire penniless, will make out better, than all of these Smart Asses, that think that they are ahead of the heard by going long on food, and short on Security and social safety nets.

I guess these guys, didn't like the prospect of either, living like a popper dependent on the whims of austerity, or being set for life, and ending up with a future, where their kids and their kids, will be trying to claw every penny they saved up, to give those lazy senior who didn't save one thin dime.

It's going to be a horror show.

I've told you my retirement plan, I plan on mooching off you.
I mean this what you rile about all day long, that everyone should work hard and give their money to the treasury, who in turn will give it to poor people with no incentive to work and pay their own way. This should be great news for you. I mean even good ole Mr. Oracle of Omaha, has said, he would give money, then laughed and said,

"Nah! I was just yanking your chain, wo ho ho, cough cough, you should have seen your stupid faces... (fart) ooh ooh ooh that was wet, excuse me..."

Obama ain't through with you YET.

Don't forget it's not 2014 yet, that will be the year that separates the Liberals from you.

zzyzzx says

I guess than Bush loves terrorists.

The posted story is a greatly abbreviated version of the full story which is posted here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/03/health/suicide-rate-rises-sharply-in-us.html?_r=0

To read the comments, one would believe that the election of Ronald Reagan was the main and only source of the angst of the Baby Boom generation. Also that financial concerns are the only cause of an increase in suicide. If that were the case, then the 30's would have been rife with suicide, a far worse time financially than today. My parents and the 12 couples they were friends with were all in their 30's during the Great Depression, but I don't recall any long-term mental problems as a result. But as the full story points out:

"that as adolescents people in this generation also posted higher rates of suicide compared with other cohorts."

I'm older than the Baby Boom generation, but still close enough to have experienced the same things they did, just a little sooner. I believe that the decisions that many in this generation made early on contributed to their later problems. The oldest members were among the first to experience the drug culture and the sexual revolution and all its upheavals:

“It is the baby boomer group where we see the highest rates of suicide,” said the C.D.C.’s deputy director, Ileana Arias. “There may be something about that group, and how they think about life issues and their life choices that may make a difference.”

It was no accident the oldest members of this group were called the Me Generation, a generation which some have called the most selfish, self-centered, self-absorbed generation in American history. The idea was that personal expedience was the only thing of any value and that all considerations of duty or responsibility were of no consideration. This was the generation that began the shack-up instead of marriage, resulting in countless abandonments of partners and children through the years. With the advent of no-fault divorce, leaving marriage also became rife with this generation. Throughout 2010 and 2011 there were countless stories in the papers about people who married in 1960 celebrating their 50th wedding anniversaries. That may continue throught 2015, but how many people who married in 1970, if they married at all, will celebrate 50 years together in 2020? Especially if they married in the mid-70's or later? Each divorce results in a dillution of financial well-being as a home or savings are lost by one partner or the other. And that doesn't count the people who lived together for years without marrying at all. People in their 70's, 80's and 90's are celebrating 50, 60 and sometimes even 70 years together, but those experiences are probably not going to exist for the Baby Boomers.

Another characteristic of this group not mentioned, but that came to form almost a template of experience for the oldest members was that by the time they reached college age, many, if they had been reared in a religious tradition at all, usually Protestant or Catholic, quickly abandoned it and continued their lives without the guidance or comfort that earlier generations had found in those associations. They also tended to gravitate to the self-help nostrums that were everywhere in the 70's. All of my parents' friends were also closely associated with their churches.

A couple of other depressing ideas are that:

"Changes in marriage, social isolation and family roles mean many of the pressures faced by baby boomers will continue in the next generation, Dr. Phillips said."

and

“The boomers had great expectations for what their life might look like, but I think perhaps it hasn’t panned out that way,” she said. “All these conditions the boomers are facing, future cohorts are going to be facing many of these conditions as well.”

P N Dr Lo R says

Each divorce results in a dillution of financial well-being as a home or savings are lost by one partner or the other.

P N Dr Lo R says

by the time they reached college age, many, if they had been reared in a religious tradition at all, usually Protestant or Catholic, quickly abandoned it and continued their lives without the guidance or comfort that earlier generations had found in those associations.

Humm...
- country: culturally dissolved, frontier-less, perpetually losing in trade.
- community church: abandoned
- marriages: abandoned

These are concentric tribes that are being destroyed, mostly by economic pressures at every level, leaving some isolated individuals that have become useless and obsolete.

Some still think tribalism should be defeated. I say tribes are the locus of belonging, purpose, and meaning.
No tribes, almost by definition, means isolated and necessarily self-centered individuals.

Capitalism has been the great destroyer of meaning. Consider:
- Ultra-specialization resulted in people doing soul-crushingly repetitive and meaningless jobs.
- Instant gratification and ego-centrism have been promoted to central values of this society.
- While at the same time, the extreme economic pressures of globalization has resulted in the rise of a new "useless" class. People that are basically obsolete.
- Every human interactions have been reduced to standardized monetary transactions. Marriage and child support was the logical next step. Rin is just the most extreme example of this.
- A lot of people "social lives" has been moved to Internet spying platforms, where people are presenting unrealistic pictures of their lives to a circle of ever looser acquaintances who don't give a shit.
- the hypo-normal levels of spiritual satisfaction, are ever more poorly compensated by the hyper-normal stimuli of modern life: stocks going up, latest gadgets, latest movie, etc, etc...

I think that’s liberalism, not capitalism.

Conservative values speak against that, and provide for fulfilling life, where once soul matters.

Even founding fathers said nation has to be moral, otherwise it’ll fall apart.

Heraclitusstudent says

Capitalism has been the great destroyer of meaning. Consider:
- Ultra-specialization resulted in people doing soul-crushingly repetitive and meaningless jobs.
- Instant gratification and ego-centrism have been promoted to central values of this society.
- While at the same time, the extreme economic pressures of globalization has resulted in the rise of a new "useless" class. People that are basically obsolete.
- Every human interactions have been reduced to standardized monetary transactions. Marriage and child support was the logical next step. Rin is just the most extreme example of this.
- A lot of people "social lives" has been moved to Internet spying platforms, where people are presenting unrealistic pictures of their lives to a circle of ever looser acquaintances who don't give a shit.
- the hypo-normal levels of spiritual satisfaction, are ever more poorly compensated by the hyper-normal stimuli of modern life: stocks going up, latest gadgets, latest movie, etc, etc...

FortWayne says

I think that’s liberalism, not capitalism.

Not untrue.www.youtube.com/embed/VV-ZBqyTOBY

"God is dead. We have killed him, you and I."

If you let the old gods die, blood will run in the streets. The void left by Christianity has been filled w communism and every other disgusting 20th century nihilism. Suicide is just another symptom of the same problem.

I think its the internet. Gibberish information transmits at light speed.

Internet... or the advent of PC culture? I think my idea explains the trend shift better. @ Booger summed it up nicely I think.