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2013 Jun 3, 3:49am   1,388 views  5 comments

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What are our main choices for distributing healthcare, and which are the best?

Who employs that method and why is it better?

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1   Tenpoundbass   2013 Jun 3, 4:01am  

"Universal Healthcare"
Means nothing, and nothing legislated out of such a profoundly undefinable meaningless word, could possibly be anything but an expensive insurance racket.

Remember, if Republicans are not screaming up and down, calling any idea socialized Medicine, then it's probably not going to be good for the Country and be the healthcare system, 80% of Americans would expect out of a Government provided healthcare system.

We need a multifaceted approach that would fix five major fiscal problems facing this country.

Education Costs
lack of Educated and qualified Engineers and Doctors
Healthcare Costs
Healthcare availability
Economy

We need a tax based system, that would educate the bulk of those working in a Government healthcare system. Where they go to Government funded schools, where students get accepted 100% tuition free, based on grades in school. Then required to work in Federal Medical facilities for a set amount of time.

Healthcare for American citizens would then be free, not one single Bill for any treatment for any condition covered in that health system. People wanting option things done, or cosmetic procedures, vanity tucks and the like, can get those done in the private market.

I wouldn't mind if everyone paid 10 to 20% more in taxes to finance such a system. It would mean not see a bill in that system for anything, and not one son of a bitch was profiting from it. Other than being a worker in the system.

2   zzyzzx   2013 Jun 3, 11:51pm  

CaptainShuddup says

lack of Educated and qualified Engineers and Doctors

We already have too many engineers. This has been the case for decades already.

3   zzyzzx   2013 Jun 3, 11:54pm  

CL says

which are the best?

Probably the healthcare system in Singapore:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Singapore

Singapore has a non-modified universal healthcare system where the government ensures affordability of healthcare within the public health system, largely through a system of compulsory savings, subsidies and price controls. Singapore's system uses a combination of compulsory savings from payroll deductions to provide subsidies within a nationalized health insurance plan known as Medisave. Within Medisave, each citizen accumulates funds that are individually tracked, and such funds can be pooled within and across an entire extended family. The vast majority of Singapore citizens have substantial savings in this scheme. One of three levels of subsidy is chosen by the patient at the time of the healthcare episode.

A key principle of Singapore's national health scheme is that no medical service is provided free of charge, regardless of the level of subsidy, even within the public healthcare system. This mechanism is intended to reduce the overutilisation of healthcare services, a phenomenon often seen in fully subsidised universal health insurance systems. Out-of-pocket charges vary considerably for each service and level of subsidy. At the highest level of subsidy, although each out-of-pocket expense is typically small, costs can accumulate and become substantial for patients and families. At the lowest level, the subsidy is in effect nonexistent, and patients are treated like private patients, even within the public system.

Approximately 70-80% of Singaporeans obtain their medical care within the public health system. Overall government spending on healthcare amounts to only 3-4% of annual GDP, partly because government expenditure on healthcare in the private system is extremely low.

4   monkframe   2013 Jun 16, 1:11pm  

As a percentage of GDP for health care costs, the U.S. is far above every other industrialized society. It's holding our business community back, as they have to face this ever-changing nightmare of shifting law.

5   monkframe   2013 Jun 22, 2:19pm  

No, it's either a right, or it will be taken from us. It's important to get past one's privilege and understand that.

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