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Official who OK'd Obama birth papers dies in crash


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2013 Dec 12, 7:28am   3,408 views  25 comments

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/12/hawaii-obama-birth-certificate-fuddy/3996657/

Here come the crazzzeeees. Obama done did it! Because he had to cover up the cover up!

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1   upisdown   2013 Dec 12, 7:42am  

BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oops, that turned out to be a crock of useless shit aimed at Issa, who ate it up like shit-luvin morons do.

Conspiracy!!!!!!!!!! Just like when Clinton was around!!!!!!!
Vince Foster, Ron Brown, and now Loretta Fuddy!!!!!!!

2   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 12, 7:48am  

It really was not about the where the birth took place.
its about if Obama fell into the jurisdiction of UKs 1948 citizenship act
and was covered under his fathers citizenship status or his mothers
US citizenship status. The devil is in the details....
You can still be born in the USA, but be legal citizen of another country.
This is true for UK and Mexico citizens per their constitution.
You can be born outside of the USA, and be legal US citizen,
by citizenship status of your parents.

"Our Framers had no need to define “natural born Citizen” in the Constitution, because by the time of the Federal Convention of 1787, a formal definition of the term consistent with the new republican principles[1] already existed in Emer Vattel’s classic, Law of Nations."

What crazzzeeeeee about that ?

3   CL   2013 Dec 12, 8:53am  

thomaswong.1986 says

It really was not about the where the birth took place.

That's fine. You should tell it to Republicans though. Good luck; they don't have a head for nuance.

In any case, you don't find anyone referencing any act in the UK except on WND or other Crazzeeeee sites".

And the conservatives don't need logic to "connect the dots". Obama killed her! Benghazi!

upisdown says

BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oops, that turned out to be a crock of useless shit aimed at Issa, who ate it up like shit-luvin morons do.

Conspiracy!!!!!!!!!! Just like when Clinton was around!!!!!!!

Vince Foster, Ron Brown, and now Loretta Fuddy!!!!!!!

Remember Lois Lerner!!?!?!? That IRS deal is going to take Obama down eventually...or it was too, a crock of shit.

4   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 12, 11:00am  

CL says

That's fine. You should tell it to Republicans though. Good luck; they don't have a head for nuance.

In any case, you don't find anyone referencing any act in the UK except on WND or other Crazzeeeee sites".

And the conservatives don't need logic to "connect the dots". Obama killed her! Benghazi!

Oh ? than read this..

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/obamas-kenyan-citizenship/

Was Obama a foreign citizen at one time ? Yes he was.

Would the founders of this nation that broke away from the British had any intent
to allow in the future a British subject to be the president of the US Govt ?

Enter .. ." natural born citizen" in the Constitution ! Its just like when Britain went from Monarchy
to a Republic under Comwell and than back to a Monarchy...

the devil is in the details...

5   Ceffer   2013 Dec 12, 12:31pm  

Everybody on board got out with minor bruising. She was shot, hung, beaten, poisoned and had an ice pick sticking out of the spinal column at the base of her neck. I think that is a little suspicious.

6   Rin   2013 Dec 12, 1:08pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

allow in the future a British subject to be the president of the US Govt ?

Yes, the ppl would have no problems letting Bob Hope become President because he's a white British-American.

Bob Hope, being white, embodies the American spirit, despite being born in England.

7   Y   2013 Dec 12, 1:11pm  

sounds like tony choking christopher in the car crash....kill the snitch.
Call it Crazy says

CL says

Official who OK'd Obama birth papers dies in crash

You forgot to add, out of 8 passengers on board, she was the only one who died. Everyone else on board only had minor injuries.....

8   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 12, 1:21pm  

Rin says

Yes, the ppl would have no problems letting Bob Hope become President because he's a white British-American.

Bob Hope, being white, embodies the American spirit, despite being born in England.

So what your saying is when, Chester Arthur, Christopher Schürmann, Barry Goldwater, Lowell Weicker (Paris France) or Al Gore (Washington DC) all ran for USP there was no questions raised ? Because they were white ?

9   upisdown   2013 Dec 12, 2:45pm  

CL says

Remember Lois Lerner!!?!?!? That IRS deal is going to take Obama down
eventually...or it was too, a crock of shit.

Ha ha, I forgot about her as all the manufactured right wing noise and BS just melds into one big steaming pile of shit and lies. I actually had to do a search on her because I thought it was the USDA employee that Breitbart tried to screw over, (She got the last laugh on him, huh).

But yeah, she was just another person caught up in another GOP game and lie, and if you listen to the extremists, she supposedly tried to fist Pat Roberts or someody in the ass.

The GOP and/or the right wing, always a victim.

10   bob2356   2013 Dec 13, 12:28am  

thomaswong.1986 says

Oh ? than read this..

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/obamas-kenyan-citizenship/

Was Obama a foreign citizen at one time ? Yes he was.

Would the founders of this nation that broke away from the British had any intent

to allow in the future a British subject to be the president of the US Govt ?

Enter .. ." natural born citizen" in the Constitution ! Its just like when Britain went from Monarchy

to a Republic under Comwell and than back to a Monarchy...

the devil is in the details...

WTF are you babbling about. Even if he were allowed to keep his kenya citizenship he's still a natural born citizen. There's nothing anywhere that says someone with dual citizenship can't be president.

11   CL   2013 Dec 13, 1:27am  

bob2356 says

WTF are you babbling about. Even if he were allowed to keep his kenya citizenship he's still a natural born citizen. There's nothing anywhere that says someone with dual citizenship can't be president.

Pesky facts

thomaswong.1986 says

Chester Arthur, Christopher Schürmann, Barry Goldwater, Lowell Weicker (Paris France) or Al Gore (Washington DC) all ran for USP there was no questions raised ?

I don't remember Palin or Trump supporting their arguments by referencing Lowell Weicker.

There is this moment of crazzzeeee:

http://www.salon.com/2013/12/13/donald_trump_and_other_birthers_reignite_conspiracy_theories_in_wake_of_loretta_fuddys_death/

Save us, Oily Taint!

12   SiO2   2013 Dec 13, 1:59am  

bob2356 says

WTF are you babbling about. Even if he were allowed to keep his kenya citizenship he's still a natural born citizen. There's nothing anywhere that says someone with dual citizenship can't be president.

In fact, until recently, Ted Cruz was a dual citizen. US by his parents, Canada because of being born in Canada. He renounced his Canada citizenship this year.

13   CL   2013 Dec 13, 2:07am  

SiO2 says

bob2356 says

WTF are you babbling about. Even if he were allowed to keep his kenya citizenship he's still a natural born citizen. There's nothing anywhere that says someone with dual citizenship can't be president.

In fact, until recently, Ted Cruz was a dual citizen. US by his parents, Canada because of being born in Canada. He renounced his Canada citizenship this year.

An asshole in two countries!

14   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 13, 12:21pm  

bob2356 says

WTF are you babbling about. Even if he were allowed to keep his kenya citizenship he's still a natural born citizen. There's nothing anywhere that says someone with dual citizenship can't be president.

define "natural born citizenship" as it was a common term during the writing of the constitution.

An English-language translation of Emerich de Vattel's 1758 treatise The Law of
Nations, stating that

"The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country of parents who are citizens",

was quoted in 1857 by Supreme Court justice Peter Vivian Daniel in a concurring opinion in Dred Scott v. Sandford, as well as by Chief Justice Melville Fuller in 1898 in his dissenting opinion in United States v. Wong Kim Ark.

15   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 13, 12:23pm  

SiO2 says

In fact, until recently, Ted Cruz was a dual citizen. US by his parents, Canada because of being born in Canada. He renounced his Canada citizenship this year.

Clearly would not qualify for the Office.

16   bob2356   2013 Dec 13, 4:10pm  

Call it Crazy says

What about his Indonesia citizenship, where he went to elementary school? How does that fit in??

Why would he have indonesian citizenship? He lived there 4 years as a child. That doesn't qualify for citizenship.

17   bob2356   2013 Dec 13, 4:21pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

efine "natural born citizenship" as it was a common term during the writing of the constitution.

An English-language translation of Emerich de Vattel's 1758 treatise The Law of

Nations, stating that

"The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country of parents who are citizens",

was quoted in 1857 by Supreme Court justice Peter Vivian Daniel in a concurring opinion in Dred Scott v. Sandford, as well as by Chief Justice Melville Fuller in 1898 in his dissenting opinion in United States v. Wong Kim Ark.

Yawn. All the court challenges went with Obama. I guess it's too bad they didn't avail themselves of your superior knowledge on the subject.

18   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 13, 4:31pm  

bob2356 says

Yawn. All the court challenges went with Obama. I guess it's too bad they didn't avail themselves of your superior knowledge on the subject.

LOL ! no, the court states that challenges did "not have standings". That is all!

didnt go to any side!

19   upisdown   2013 Dec 13, 9:38pm  

CL says

There is this moment of crazzzeeee:


http://www.salon.com/2013/12/13/donald_trump_and_other_birthers_reignite_conspiracy_theories_in_wake_of_loretta_fuddys_death/


Save us, Oily Taint!

Trump is the master of self promotion and will use anything to get in the spotlight to be admired by the lackeys that worship him for aligning with their enemy. Apparently there's a market for it because his dumb show is still on tv, and he must have the elderly(boomer)scared-shitless crowd and the rural yokels that don't have cable niche conquered.

20   Y   2013 Dec 13, 10:22pm  

nahh. nobody's scared shitless. you don't give people enough credit.
Most people tune in to the likes of trump, o'donnell, maddow and degenerate for the comedic value.

upisdown says

Apparently there's a market for it because his dumb show is still on tv, and he must have the elderly(boomer)scared-shitless crowd and the rural yokels that don't have cable niche conquered

21   bob2356   2013 Dec 14, 1:01pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

LOL ! no, the court states that challenges did "not have standings". That is all!

didnt go to any side!

Obama's still president which makes anything you say on the subject moot.

22   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 14, 1:19pm  

bob2356 says

Obama's still president which makes anything you say on the subject moot.

Lies and deceptions should not be part of any election, but we certainly saw

much of that from Obama and his camp... such subjects will not go unnoticed.

Even you, by your comments make Nixon look good.

23   bob2356   2013 Dec 14, 3:03pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

Lies and deceptions should not be part of any election, but we certainly saw

much of that from Obama and his camp... such subjects will not go unnoticed.

You still believe in santa and the easter bunny? Lies and deception are the heart of every campaign since people were killing wooly manmoths with sticks.

24   upisdown   2013 Dec 14, 11:34pm  

SoftShell says

nahh. nobody's scared shitless. you don't give people enough credit.
Most
people tune in to the likes of trump, o'donnell, maddow and degenerate for the
comedic value.

LOL, and you're from Texas. That explains it.

25   Homeboy   2013 Dec 15, 4:23am  

thomaswong.1986 says

define "natural born citizenship" as it was a common term during the writing of the constitution.

An English-language translation of Emerich de Vattel's 1758 treatise The Law of

Nations, stating that

"The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country of parents who are citizens",

was quoted in 1857 by Supreme Court justice Peter Vivian Daniel in a concurring opinion in Dred Scott v. Sandford, as well as by Chief Justice Melville Fuller in 1898 in his dissenting opinion in United States v. Wong Kim Ark.

So you have never heard of the 14th Amendment? Idiot.

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