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sbh says

Maybe you should ask it of Phil since he's such a hero to you.

I doubt he would talk to me, as I am a sinner and a dope smoker, I bet he has less hope for me, than he does for gays. He doesn't think I'm any different than those who commit bestiality.

But I damn well respect his right to his opinion, and has my blessing to blab it to any tabloid he damn well chooses.

sbh says

Someone is willing to commit felony murder and the worst you can say about them is that they're probably a faggot. You're a swine.

And back to this guys bullshit story, that was posted with out a date the incident occurred or the community in which it occurred.

Where in the hell do you find "Cowboys" in a school parking lot?
Were they on horses, and wearing chaps? Were they sporting ten gallon hats? How do you take a story like that at face value without asking at least... "What makes you say there were Cowboys?"

Why is this not considered "Stereo typing" even in his lie?
I mean it wouldn't be the first kind of this story where a Gay person fabricated a news event that didn't happen. At least this guy didn't get crowd funded donations.

bgamall4 says

Check these out and maybe you will change your mind about me Captain:

I don't have no mind about you. You post crap about a Zionist conspiracy, and I just roll my eyes about it. I certainly don't think you should be silenced because you have those opinions.

I just don't agree. The Rich liberal gay Jews are running the world, not Zionist in a country who's only export is opposing religions.

That can't possibly sound any more ridiculous than what you say all the time.

bgamall4 says

At least the liberals try to help the poor.

You don't help the poor by indefinitely cutting them a check.

I'd be sending you fist bumps and high fives, had this administration spent as much energy on creating policy that encouraged more middle training and jobs.

And when I say "Middle Class" I don't mean for only the middle class, I mean policy that will create more middle class from anyone interested. Also if they didn't gloat about every part time job that was created. Which bt fucking w, there really wasn't any minimum wage part time jobs created. What corporations did was made a Sunday night backroom deal with the Obama Administration to Cut hours of those working 32 or more hours, to 17 hours. Essentially destroying 5 jobs where a couple working one each, could at least manage to scrape by until they moved on to better employment. To create 15 jobs that hopelessly waste people's time, and in many instances, the job paid less than the gas and other expenses they paid out, made economic, to make sense to even work that job.

In return these corporations got to be exempt from Obamacare.

It's not that so many of these jobs are added every week, it's that making a living from these jobs is so impossible that the turn over rate is high.

The average lifespan of a part time employee in 2013 was less than 3 months.

Bite my ass, the Liberals help the poor.

"We're from the Government we're here to help!"

Beware indeed!

sbh says

You keep going back to Phil in order to hide your own ignorance about abuse of gays in America. But since you look up to him so reverently I'll tell what I think of him. He himself would not abuse gays, but his condemnation of them is the foundation that promotes the abuse in others. His vocalizations of condemnation draw criticism from Liberals, and conservatives come breathlessly running to his support. You did. Suddenly poor Phil is suffering more than the queers ever did even though gays have been killed simply as a matter of pride. Could you imagine the carnage that would transpire if one straight guy in the south was beaten to death by a gang of angry gay men? It's such cowardice to bray about freedom of speech and religion, and to claim you're being abused on a level equal to that visited upon the people your speech and religion vilify.

Pure projection.

Anytime a liberal occupies the white house, your process below is hastened..

sbh says

This country is going to hell.

Plenty of straight guys have been beat to death by a gay person with repressed feelings. Remember Gacye, Dalmer, Bundy should I give you the California death row roster for the last 50 to 60 years?

Gay bars around here have a reputation of being tough, meaning not even the biggest baddest homophobes would dare go in there and talk shit. Less they want to end up on the receiving end of Jailhouse justice?

So yeah, they are repulsed while at the same time, scared that if they went looking for any trouble, then they might get turned out.

Oh yeah, speaking of which, where was all of the fake outrage against HBO, when they created OZ which pretty much outlines exactly what goes on in most prisons in the United States and the world. That makes it seem jail is full of Gays and Queers?

CaptainShuddup says

Oh yeah, speaking of which, where was all of the fake outrage against HBO, when they created OZ which pretty much outlines exactly what goes on in most prisons in the United States and the world. That makes it seem jail if full of Gays and Queers?

I read somewhere in history books that homosexuality in old Roman empire was a sign of dominance. Where old men would seek out young men and do what they thought was a sign of privilege. Today these groups pretend it's about rights, in reality it's just a bunch of sick and vile old pedophiles seeking to abuse young boys.

They are sick people I tell you.

CaptainShuddup says

Plenty of straight guys have been beat to death by a gay person with repressed feelings. Remember Gacye, Dalmer, Bundy should I give you the California death row roster for the last 50 to 60 years?

One night on Boylston Street, I just got off work from a store near Yawkey Way, and this Italian Guy comes walking from a gay club down the street - all angry as hell.

He runs up to me and says "Those guys tried to FUCK me! Can you believe that shit? They tried to fuck me!!!" half-drunk and in a rage. Then he jumps in the street and smacks a passing car's side mirror.

Now this guy had a little twinkle in his eye, and you have to be a mega-idiot not to comprehend "Ramrod Night". That and the club is festooned with gay and drag posters outside, and almost everybody on line is male. I think he went in, did a little dirty dancing, but when somebody grabbed his crotch he flipped out due to all the family/religious crap.

But yeah, lots of angry repressed gays in the world still. Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

sbh says

The outrage was churning in the tortured psyches of America's conservatives who are just too repressed to don the mantel of free speech and express their alleged minds. I thought that was what you're all about, you know, being the downtrodden demographic and all. I'm surprised you asked.

So you're saying that only Liberal social artists are allowed to create gay themed subject content? And everyone else should just pretend the don't even exist, other than answer "YES" to what ever they ask or say, the quickly just look back down.

"Don't make eye contact, don't make eye contact... Ah man you screwed up now that is considered bigoted homophobia, I hope you don't have a talk show buddy!"

sbh says

When they tied that poor kid to the fence and stoned him to death I bet they thought he was trying to suck them off the whole time. I mean really, did they have any choice? A guy's got his pride, ya know?

SBH, I think you're taking my post the wrong way.

It's about some Boston Italian kid struggling with his own demons about being gay. In no way justifies some Wyoming kid getting beaten up for being gay.

Some gays, like some heterosexuals, get violent when dealing with their issues, whatever they might be, sexual or from a history of child abuse or emotional or whatever. Pointing this out shouldn't be heretical.

If I had a dollar for every guy who threw a beer bottle or broke something when their inner demons get loosed from alcohol, I'd be richer than Gates.

sbh says

What bugs me is guys like the Captain who prop up bigotry simply in a knee jerk support of anyone on the right, and do so using what the neo-rightist have employed the last two decades: calling lefties racists guilty of reverse discrimination or some such blather. When you recall the contortions people went through to fabricate justifications for "their side" in the Martin/Zimmerman debate you see how weary the conservatives are of wearing the jacket of prejudice and bigotry. They undertake any gymnastic to put it on a mannequin that sits on the left. That's the Captain in spades. Say anything, anything at all, and be sure to call your opponent guilty of what you've been stuck with for years.

I bet it tasted good, I was looking for a good recipe of Irony Soup.

You're not going to trump my "Racebaiting" card, with your "Race" card.
Go fish!

Oh Huessien he was this know it all PoliticoFact paid schil that likes to come around every election season, post Liar Liar pictographs that with out any other proof, he uses to say how great the Tampa Times endorsed politicans are while bullying everyone else who dissgrees.

For you, when you're acting like him, he's just a Name I use to throw in an empty Pringles can along with a few screws and marbles and rattle it around until you shut up.

You're quite lucid today as well, I see my therapy has helped.

Oyevay!!!!

You of all people I don't owe anything.

I'm sure most here would call me a racist, but I would also bet that I respect people of all race, religion and cultures more than anyone here.

I celebrate people's differences you people want to put us all in a Liberal sausage grinder and spit mentally and sexually confused liberal servants and wards of the State.

To me you people are no different than the Dukes, Sirs and Viceroys in Ireland in the middle ages who rapped all of the women because they wanted to breed out the Irish.

The way a NPR segment narrator, can present his point of view about cultures from South America while calling "Chicha" music of detergents, gets a free pass, because some overly educated shit head is projecting about culture on the tax payers dime again.
But catch to White GOP senators discussing the American black culture and their music using the same semantics, and the sound byte will be taken out of context and blasted all over the social media calling them racists.

You might call me a racist, I don't care really, but you'll never be able to call me a hypocrite, and all of my colorful friends will agree with me on that. At the end of the day, that's all that matters to me. Are my friends and how they view me, not you basket full of fruitcakes from the west coast.

As long as my friends like Magic and Tim and Peto says I'm cool, that's all I'm worried about.

They are coming over in a bit for to jam some music and drink a few beers, would you like me to ask them anything?

I respect all cultures and races, and don't think anyone is inferior nor superior to the other.

What I don't like is this Uniculture of confused misguided souls that has no heritage, tradition, values, or identity. With all of this missing from everyone regardless of race, the world is loosing a lot more than a few John Earl's in East Mississipi.

All of those things are missing in this modern Uniculture.

Regardless of race or culture those things were always present, and universally across the board. The only thing that changed was the attire for the occasions and the decorations.

With this Uniculture people wont know their boundaries, or respect for any implied boundaries. We'd all be no good sons of bitches no better or worse than each other. But more importantly lack the home upbringing to know the difference.

I'd rather live in Mongolia in a Yurt, or a Lima on the side of a dirt hill in a makeshift shack, that to live in the America where we/and much of the International world is headed.

At least if I were living in those places they would know I'm laughing with them and not at them.

So in closing I probably don't like you, but I love all races and cultures.

CaptainShuddup says

I respect all cultures and races, and don't think anyone is inferior nor superior to the other.

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CaptainShuddup says

With this Uniculture people wont know their boundaries, or respect for any implied boundaries. We'd all be no good sons of bitches no better or worse than each other.

Trying to wrap my mind around what's going on here.

Are you in a flame war with yourself, or have you just not thought your opinions through yet?

CaptainShuddup says

It’s all now about not offending some victim group.

Do you have any idea how many things one can't say for fear of offending white Christians in this country?

sbh says

That must be the Uniculture Cap was spewing about. I wondered what he meant. He wanders around amongst sentence fragments and unfinished thoughts

The cap has an amazing ability to post at least 6-8 half finished and/or totally incomprehensiible contradictory thoughts all at the same time, sometimes in the same paragraph. It's a true talent.

HydroCabron says

Do you have any idea how many things one can't say for fear of offending white Christians in this country?

what has been said already for decades... no not offended at all

you say "white" Christians.. seems you left out a whole lot of other Christians out there..

or is this another race thing for you ?

bgamall4 says

Robertson hates gay people. Robertson in 2010: " Women with women, men with men, they committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions. They’re full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant, God-haters. They are heartless, they are faithless, they are senseless, they are ruthless. They invent ways of doing evil."

you seem to not comprehend Sexual Addiction.. and if you know anything and SA, is thats its self destructive and will destroy the people around you...

you dont need religion to know the outcome of Sexual Addiction... It is evil on its own!

sbh says

thomaswong.1986 says

are you claiming WBC represents ALL of Christianity...

No. I'm claiming it represents bigots like you.

You know nothing of my religion...

bgamall4 says

n that article you linked to above, he said:

“For the sake of the Gospel, it was worth it,” Phil tells me. “All you have to do is look at any society where there is no Jesus. I’ll give you four: Nazis, no Jesus. Look at their record. Uh, Shintos? They started this thing in Pearl Harbor. Any Jesus among them?

Yes, Robertson was right even about State - Shintoisms... it was a corrupt state govt created religion married to militarism as Japan invaded much of Asia. Much has been written during WW2 about it. Most Japanese are not Shintoist but Buddhist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinto#State_Shinto

Although the government sponsorship of shrines declined, Japanese nationalism remained closely linked to the legends of foundation and emperors, as developed by the kokugaku scholars. In 1890, the Imperial Rescript on Education was issued, and students were required to ritually recite its oath to "offer yourselves courageously to the State" as well as to protect the Imperial family. Such processes continued to deepen throughout the early Shōwa period, coming to an abrupt end in August 1945 when Japan lost the war in the Pacific. On 1 January 1946, Emperor Shōwa issued the Ningen-sengen, in which he quoted the Five Charter Oath of Emperor Meiji and declared that he was not an akitsumikami.

People are using the Bible to validate and endorse bigotry. One hundred years ago it was using the Bible to justify slavery. Bigotry will fall just like slavery did. We pick and choose what parts of the Bible we sanction. When is the last time someone sacrificed an animal for God? It's in the Bible.

It's free speech you can say what you want but you can't dictate the terms on how someone will respond to it. He made his employer look bad he paid the price. I think he will be reinstated after this blows over. He makes too much money for A&E and I don't think they want to be seen as talking sides between Democrats and Republicans.

dtbristol says

People are using the Bible to validate and endorse bigotry. One hundred years ago it was using the Bible to justify slavery.

what part of Exodus are you referring to ? perhaps you might read up on

US History and peoples reading of the Bible as to reasons / justification used to END slavery...

where did that come from ?

I guess your thinking Hollywood or some other Liberal nonsense !

CaptainShuddup says

Plenty of straight guys have been beat to death by a gay person with repressed feelings.

Obligatory prison rape reference.

dtbristol says

When is the last time someone sacrificed an animal for God? It's in the Bible.

It stopped when Jesus sacrificed himself for mans sins. For Jewish tradition, only performed
in the old Temple of Jerusalem.

sbh, "thomaswong" is not his real name. He just picked some Chinese-sounding name for username on this forum. He is not even asian.

Reality says

sbh, "thomaswong" is not his real name. He just picked some Chinese-sounding name for username on this forum. He is not even asian.

Is that true? He often writes like an Asian immigrant.

CL says

Reality says

sbh, "thomaswong" is not his real name. He just picked some Chinese-sounding name for username on this forum. He is not even asian.

Is that true? He often writes like an Asian immigrant.

No way. He is among the bright lights of his generation. Indeed, a subscriber to The National Review.

bgamall4 says

I don't see the problem in that. The problem is the banksters want to separate us, by age, race, income, etc, when they are the enemy.

Liberals do a damn fine job of that, at least this administration's official policy does. Don't you think?

I'm loving reading this, please go on!

sbh says

pedestrian quality of his ideas and his proud attempt to be a provocateur of atheists and progressives. No matter, he's foreign to the indigenous American moment

What are you talking about? Thomaswong is the only person, on this forum, who remembers the Red Brigade of the late 70s/early 80s who'd kidnapped a NATO general in Italy. This is stuff that only my cold war ready dad & some of his paranoid friends would recall today. Thomas is the real deal. He's a man of the 60s & 70s but lost in modern times, our own Rip Van Winkle.

Mr Wong hails from the House of Wong Dam Song how about some reSPECT HUH!!! (Pappy slap across the head)

Rin says

What are you talking about? Thomaswong is the only person, on this forum, who remembers the Red Brigade of the late 70s/early 80s who'd kidnapped a NATO general in Italy.

He remembers where to find wikipedia. The rest just writes itself.

CaptainShuddup says

What I don't like is this Uniculture of confused misguided souls that has no heritage, tradition, values, or identity. With all of this missing from everyone regardless of race, the world is loosing a lot more than a few John Earl's in East Mississipi.

All of those things are missing in this modern Uniculture.

Regardless of race or culture those things were always present, and universally across the board. The only thing that changed was the attire for the occasions and the decorations.

With this Uniculture people wont know their boundaries, or respect for any implied boundaries. We'd all be no good sons of bitches no better or worse than each other. But more importantly lack the home upbringing to know the difference.

Let me get this straight.

You respect all races and cultures, but you don't want everyone else to have your insights, lest the people start mixing with each other and mating with each other, causing us to lose the beauty that comes from people being more different from eachother.

So you're nostalgic for the past. Is that it ?

I have a few thoughts on this.

1) as the world gets smaller and more mixed, as a very natural phenomenon, individual cultures recede to some extent, but people are not going to be all the same anytime soon.

2) Centuries before everyone in the world looks sort of like columbians or whatever, and long before strong cultural differences disappear or meld together, there are bigger problems that have to be addressed.

These include things like overfishing the oceans, global warming and pollution, and avoiding war.

I say lets figure out how to stabilize things and live in a sustainable way on the planet, and get along with eachother (these are problems of the next century or two) - before we get worried too much about the downside of us getting along too well.

The latter I can live with, and is much further off in the future (millenia). Actually both are way outside of our lifespan, so as a right winger I'm surprised you care.

If you're talking about some kind of uniculture that you percieve to already exist, in the US, then I don't see what you're nostalgic for.

Even if we had no immigrants other than European, the cultural phenomenon you speak of would have occurred. I don't particularly celebrate the Irish half of my ancestry. The other half of my ancestors go way way back in the U.S., but still European if we go back far enough, and are not anything I celebrate or really even know clearly.

What is the beautiful American culture that's going to be lost ? Is it some puritanical practices from a couple hundred years ago ? Or are you taking a snapshot at the time of the fifties chevy and John Wayne ?

We've always been a "melting pot." And that's beautiful. IT's the only reason you have as much experience with different cultures and respect for different cultures as you do.

Hey it's the modern consumer culture that will accelerate the global destruction of resources. Don't kid your self.

Who do you think knows what's best to conserve Louisiana swamp ecosystem?
The Twitterverse or the dumb ole Rednecks living there?

Who do you think is more responsible for overfishing the gulf.
Captain Marcel Bouchette or Tom Hank's international notoriety as Forest Gump?

I'm not a right winger, but I am conservative when it comes to pro family issues, and people's rights to tradition, and preserving their heritage and culture.
Where that doesn't include getting rid of anyone who is not just like them.

Yes people would get along if we respected each others differences rather than trying to homogenize everyone into this hypoallergenic socially sterile species.

And I don't know if you noticed, but we're not getting along. "Too Well".

We're going to run out of Big Macs eventually and then all hell's going to break lose, when the effects of Globalization wears off.

CaptainShuddup says

Who do you think is more responsible for overfishing the gulf.

Captain Marcel Bouchette or Tom Hank's international notoriety as Forest Gump?

Neither, it's the free market, our high population, and demand for shrimp. I'm not blaming people for wanting to eat fish, and I'm not really blaming the fisherman. There is no nice solution. We could limit the size of nets or the size of fishing enterprises. Regulations are necessary, but they would raise the price of fish. If we cause the price of fish to go up enough to lower demand, then it's government interfearance and its unfair to the poor who can't afford to pay more for fish. But it might be the only way we make the fish population ssustainable.

Of course it gives the whining haters such as yourself another thing to complain about. Like I said. THere is no nice solution.

Most of what you say has no reasoning or logic behind it. You're very creative at connecting disjoint phrases to these random feelings you have, but most of it doesn't make much sense.

marcus says

Neither, it's the free market, our high population, and demand for shrimp.

I take it you've never been to one of the Hundreds of Buba Gump seafood restaurants? These just are your average quaint out of the way simple eateries. These places are strategically placed, anywhere there is a Theme park, large busy upscale shopping mall or waterfront.

They have over 1200 seats, and have a line out the door from the time the open to the time they close. Oh sure you can cop out and say "Free market" and all that if you want too.

In 2010 the shrimp harvest from the gulf was 177 million pounds valued at $340 million dockside (meaning discounted wholesale value).

It looks like there are about 40 of those Bubba Gump restaurants. I doubt they account for more than about 3 million pounds of that shrimp harvest. Probably way less, because even though their name is bubba gump, everyone is not eating shrimp there.