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turtledove says

He would then sell both. This continued and his projects grew in scope over the years. It took him a long time, but by the time he was 50, he was a very rich guy.

I think we're talking about different kinds of rich there. But even so, I would wager that he had occasion to push the limits with the local inspectors back in his day...

marcus says

Wow, a new record even for disingenuous, he found three different ways to say " I know you are, but what am I" all in one comment.

That is what you got out of that, good thing you work for the government, you sure as fuck could not get a job in the private sector.

mell says

No, it has been explained to you thousands of times, you just don't want to comprehend

No--I understand what you think. But your reasoning is flawed. Every law that passes has some winners and some losers. Just because a law passes that benefits you, doesn't mean you are the reason it passed or that something nefarious was involved. What if I simply accurately predicted how things would turn out because I understand how/why congressmen think and vote and planned accordingly. How can you tell the difference??
mell says

Corzine losing half a billion in - by law untouchable - customer funds yet roaming free? The reo-to-rental program, the farmer's subsidies, the defense contractors shitting all over Iraq, the Fed printing money like no tomorrow and buying MBS, the fact that a hospital can charge $80000 for an antidote worth $750 on the free market without having to disclose the costs upfront and without anybody going to jail for usury? Undeclared wars, NSA spying?

So now anything you disagree with is "cronyism?" That's about what I thought.

tatupu70 says

Every law that passes has some winners and some losers.

If you opened a money management business tomorrow and then "lost" your clients monies you would be in jail in no time. This is a law. What happened under this administration was not only a set of unfortunate new laws and regulations boosting crony capitalism, what also happened was selective abandonment of the rule of law. There is no excuse for this and if Dems and Repubs weren't the same this administration would have been impeached years ago as would have been W. This is why I think the current quagmire in the Republican party could have them realize that they cannot win without resurrecting Libertarian principles and break with the establishment. They actually have a much better chance of reformation due to their current incongruent state than the Democrats who have almost "solidified" in their corruptive policies.

mell says

If you opened a money management business tomorrow and then "lost" your clients monies you would be in jail in no time.

What the hell are you talking about. It's not against the law to lose clients money. Where the eff did you get that idea???

mell says

What happened under this administration was not only a set of unfortunate new laws and regulations boosting crony capitalism, what also happened was selective abandonment of the rule of law.

Wow--it never ceases to amaze me how many armchair quarterbacks there are here. You THINK that fraud was committed. I probably agree. But all that matters is what you can prove in a court of law. And you don't know that.

I'm assuming that's what you are referencing--no criminal action against Wall St. What other abandonment was there?

tatupu70 says

mell says

If you opened a money management business tomorrow and then "lost" your clients monies you would be in jail in no time.

What the hell are you talking about. It's not against the law to lose clients money. Where the eff did you get that idea???

Better educate yourself, it is illegal to use segregated customer accounts for corporate purposes (in this case to cover the companies investment losses and looming bankruptcy), and that's what happened. The fact that he is not in jail is grounds for impeachment. But then again, he is/was a big time Obama campaign supporter. Any questions?

mell says

Better educate yourself, it is illegal to use segregated customer accounts for corporate purposes (in this case to cover the companies investment losses and looming bankruptcy), and that's what happened

Maybe--but that's not what you said.

mell says

The fact that he is not in jail is grounds for impeachment. But then again, he is/was a big time Obama campaign supporter. Any questions?

Sure--can you share the proof that he broke the law. And that his connection to Obama is/was the reason he wasn't prosecuted?

Any answers?

tatupu70 says

mell says

The fact that he is not in jail is grounds for impeachment. But then again, he is/was a big time Obama campaign supporter. Any questions?

Sure--can you share the proof that he broke the law. And that his connection to Obama is/was the reason he wasn't prosecuted?

Any answers?

Absolutely - there is an email stating Corzine directing that transfer. The only defense he had was pleading "da fif" and saying that it was not customer money. But the money was missing (and not traceable to investment losses), that's a fact and if you had done that you'd be sent to jail for a long long time. That is on par with W pardoning scooter "treason" libby on his last day (though one could argue that at least libby was prosecuted and convicted and then pardoned which is fucked up but unfortunately not against the law).

mell says

Absolutely - there is an email stating Corzine directing that transfer

link? And not to a long story detailing the circumstantial evidence against Corzine-please link to the damning email.