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I did a facebook live while Bernie was talking and yes all the Bernie Bots have called him a sell out...

https://www.facebook.com/Logan.Mohtashami

Bernie doesn't support Clinton. This is likely a calculated move, to help defeat her. Everyone knows that the Bernie voter is too informed to vote for #crookedhillary.

I was saying for a while that the vast majority of Bernie supporters will not vote for donald trump. Bernie is a classic western european social democrat whie trump is a right wing authoritarian. There's not much overlap between the 2 approaches and key irreconcilable differences exist. The "sellout" label does not apply, in fact he would be a compete and utter sellout if he endorsed donald or urged his supporters to vote for him out of spite.

All that being said, Bernie's work was not in vain. Many of his ideas will become a reality in a span of couple of generations. Some of his ideas would have resulted in pariah status only 15 years ago, but now they are acceptable mainstream discussion topics. No matter how frustrated people get, they cannot allow authoritarian to seize the throne. And regarding Ratched, her day of reckoning will come one day.

errc says

Bernie doesn't support Clinton. This is likely a calculated move, to help defeat her. Everyone knows that the Bernie voter is too informed to vote for #crookedhillary.

2020 we will likely see our populist anti-establishment candidate. This year, when it comes down to it, people are going to vote for stability and status quo ... one more time. This year is about voting against the other guy, and while some Sanders supporters are primarily supporting him as an anti-establishment candidate and are likely then to run to Trump, a great deal more will move to Clinton to prevent a Trump presidency.

No pitch forks and torches yet.

If this is the year of voting against the other guy, why do you expect Sanders suporters to switch from against Clinton, to against Trump?

For the rest of us, who stand and vote for something, why on Earth would we vote against everything we stand for, with Clinton?

errc says

why on Earth would we vote against everything we stand for, with Clinton?

Google "Hillary Clinton positions".

It's safe to assume that she wouldn't keep all of them as president, but the intersection of Sanders and Clinton on the issues is marked.

Tough to watch.

Sanders announced that he was going to do this a few weeks ago (http://patrick.net/?p=1292500&c=1297437#comment-1297437), so it's no surprise. He signaled that this is where he stood months ago, when he said 'No one cares about your damn emails.' It's hardly selling out when it's what you've been signalling the whole time. A small number of Sanders supporters are moving the Trump (like less than 1 in 10), while many more are moving toward HRC.

dublin hillz says

Bernie is a classic western european social democrat whie trump is a right wing authoritarian. There's not much overlap between the 2 approaches and key irreconcilable differences exist.

This is correct in my estimation, and also what I've been saying about Bernie. His core values are very different from Trump's.

Google "Hillary Clinton positions".

It's safe to assume that she wouldn't keep all of them as president, but the intersection of Sanders and Clinton on the issues is marked.

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Personally, I'll consider her actions over the past decades, rather than her marketing departments selling points of saying whatever they think will garner the most votes.

I am writing you today to express my deep pride in the movement – the political revolution – you and I have created together over the last 15 months. When we began this historic campaign, we were considered fringe players by the political, economic and media establishment. Well, we proved them wrong.
We showed that the American people support a bold, progressive agenda that takes on the billionaire class, that fights for racial, social, economic and environmental justice and that seeks to create a government that works for all of us and not just the big campaign donors.
We mobilized over 13 million voters across the country. We won 23 Democratic primary and caucus contests. We had literally hundreds of thousands of volunteers across the country. And we showed – in a way that can change politics in America forever – that you can run a competitive national grassroots campaign without begging millionaires and billionaires for campaign contributions.
Most importantly, we elevated the critical issues facing our country – issues the establishment has pushed under the rug for too long. We focused attention on the grotesque level of income and wealth inequality in this country and the importance of breaking up the large banks who brought our economy to the brink of collapse. We exposed our horrendous trade policies, our broken criminal justice system, and our people's lack of access to affordable health care and higher education. We fought aggressively to address the crisis of climate change, the need for real comprehensive immigration reform, the importance of developing a foreign policy that values diplomacy over war, and so much more.
We have shown throughout this election that these are issues that are important to voters and that progressive solutions energize people in the fight for real change. What we have accomplished so far is historic – but our work is far from over.
This movement of ours – this political revolution – must continue. We cannot let all of the momentum we have achieved in the fight to transform America be lost. We will never stop fighting for what is right.
It is true that in terms of winning the Democratic nomination, we did come up short. But this election was never about me or any candidate. It was about the powerful coming together of millions of people to take their country back from the billionaire class. That was the strength of our campaign and it will be the strength of our movement going forward in the months and years ahead.
In the coming weeks, I will be announcing the creation of successor organizations to carry on the struggle that we have been a part of these past 15 months. I hope you will continue to be involved in fighting to transform America. Our goal will be to advance the progressive agenda that we believe in and to elect like-minded candidates at the federal, state and local levels who are committed to accomplishing our goals.
In terms of the presidential election this November, there is no doubt that the election of Donald Trump as president would be a devastating blow to all that we are fighting for. His openly bigoted and pro-billionaire campaign could precipitate the same decades-long rightward shift in American politics that happened after the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980. That rightward shift after Reagan’s election infected not just politics as a whole but led to the ascendancy of the corporatist wing of the Democratic Party – an era from which we are still recovering.
I cannot in good conscience let that happen.
To have all of the work we have done in elevating our progressive ideals be dashed away by a complete Republican takeover of Washington – a takeover headed by a candidate that demonizes Latinos, Muslims, women, African Americans, veterans, and others – would be unthinkable.
Today, I endorsed Hillary Clinton to be our next president. I know that some of you will be disappointed with that decision. But I believe that, at this moment, our country, our values, and our common vision for a transformed America, are best served by the defeat of Donald Trump and the election of Hillary Clinton.
You should know that in the weeks since the last primary, both campaigns have worked together in good faith to bridge some of the policy issues that divided us during the election. Did we come to agreement on everything? Of course not. But we made important steps forward.
Hillary Clinton released a debt free college plan that we developed together which now includes free tuition at public colleges and universities for working families. This was a major part of our campaign’s agenda and a proposal that, if enacted into law, would revolutionize higher education in this country.
Secretary Clinton has also publicly committed to massive investments in health care for communities across this country that will increase primary care, including mental health care, dental care, and low-cost prescription drug access for an additional 25 million people. Importantly, she has also endorsed the enactment of a so-called public option to allow everyone in this country to participate in a public insurance program. This idea was killed by the insurance industry during consideration of President Obama’s health care program.
During the Democratic platform proceedings in St. Louis and Orlando, we were victorious in including amendments to make it a clear priority of the Democratic Party to fight for a $15 an hour federal minimum wage, expand Social Security, abolish the death penalty, put a price on carbon, establish a path toward the legalization of marijuana, enact major criminal justice reforms, pass comprehensive immigration reform, end for-profit prisons and detention facilities, break up too-big-to-fail banks and create a 21st century Glass-Steagall Act, close loopholes that allow big companies to avoid taxes by stashing their cash in offshore tax havens and use that revenue to rebuild America, approve the most expansive agenda ever for protecting Native American rights and so much more.
All of these progressive policies were at the heart of our campaign. The truth is our movement is responsible for the most progressive Democratic platform in the history of our country. All of that is the direct result of the work that our members of the platform committee did in the meetings and that you have been doing over the last 15 months.
But none of these initiatives will happen if we do not elect a Democratic president in November. None! In fact, we will go backward. We must elect the Democratic nominee in November and progressive Democrats up and down the ballot so that we ensure that these policy commitments can advance.
It is extremely important that we keep our movement together, that we hold public officials accountable and that we elect progressive candidates to office at the federal, state, and local level who will stand with us.
As part of that effort, we still have a tremendous amount of work left to do in the Democratic Rules Committee that will be meeting in the coming weeks. We have to enact the kinds of reforms to the Democratic Party and to the electoral process that will provide us the tools to elect progressive candidates, to allow new voices and new energy into the Party, and to break up the excessive power that the economic and political elites in the Party currently have. As with our fights on the platform committee, that will only be possible if we stand together.
You should know that I intend to be actively campaigning throughout this election season to elect candidates who will stand by our agenda. I hope to see many of you at events from coast to coast.
In conclusion, I again want to express my pride in what we have accomplished together over the last year. But so much more must be done to make our vision a reality. Now more than ever our country needs our movement – our political revolution. As you have throughout this historic campaign, I ask for your ongoing support as we continue through the fall and beyond.
On a personal note, I cannot say with words how appreciative Jane and I are of the kindness, dedication and love we experienced from so many people across the country. We are deeply touched by it and will never, ever forget it.

I wonder why Sander supporters won't back Hillary?

Bernie Sanders endorsing Crooked Hillary Clinton is like Occupy Wall Street endorsing Goldman Sachs.

Trump is right again

Ironman says

visceral dislike for Hillary Clinton

What a long-winded nuanced way of saying "misogyny." How precious!

Our presidential and congressional elections are chock full of male candidates less likeable and more sleazy than Hillary Clinton. For example, the current Republican (presumptive) nominee, being a birther who welshes on contracts with vendors and makes fun of handicapped people, is sleazier than Hillary.

For some reason, double dealing and hard-ass behavior is not acceptable in Hillary's case. There's something different about her. I wonder what it could be?

Voters continue to support members of the Big Club.

If Trump is elected,he becomes a lifetime member of the club.
By the way he will be told what to do & say.
At least he will not accept one cent of political donations.roflmao

Does "Lying Fucks" apply to all politicians & "STUPID FUCKS" to the voters?

errc says

ernie doesn't support Clinton. This is likely a calculated move, to help defeat her.

Perhaps Hillary's rich donors paid off Sander's campaign debts in order to get the endorsement.... It wouldn't be the firs time something like this has happened.
Call me silly, but I have to think that there is some money involved here.

There's definitely money involved. The Saudi/Isis blood money that the Clintons depend on, said tell Bernie whatever you have to, so that he shuts up and goes away. Once you dispose of him, you can revert back to doing Allahs work. Lying and screwing people over is all you know!

Jill Stein would be a productive vote. Write-in votes for other candidates are likely not to be recognized.

zzyzzx says

Perhaps Hillary's rich donors paid off Sander's campaign debts in order to get the endorsement.... It wouldn't be the firs time something like this has happened.

Call me silly, but I have to think that there is some money involved here.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/11/vp-wannabe-newt-gingrich-still-4-6-million-in-debt.html

"The good news for the people still looking to get paid is that Gingrich joining a presidential ticket would make it much easier for him to raise campaign cash."

Maybe Hillary agreed to give Bernie some "sweet loving" if he would endorse her. Bernie, you can do better in Vegas.

Blurtman says

Jill Stein would be a productive vote.

Why not just vote for Trump directly?

That would be productive as well.

Pretty much anything you can do to help keep Clinton from the presidency, is productive

I think there is a Jane's Addiction song about this.

This is shocking, NOT.

I never for an instant imagined this would not happen.

Newsflash: Bernie was always smart enough to strongly prefer Hillary over Trump.

In terms of the presidential election this November, there is no doubt that the election of Donald Trump as president would be a devastating blow to all that we are fighting for. His openly bigoted and pro-billionaire campaign could precipitate the same decades-long rightward shift in American politics that happened after the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980. That rightward shift after Reagan’s election infected not just politics as a whole but led to the ascendancy of the corporatist wing of the Democratic Party – an era from which we are still recovering.
I cannot in good conscience let that happen.
To have all of the work we have done in elevating our progressive ideals be dashed away by a complete Republican takeover of Washington – a takeover headed by a candidate that demonizes Latinos, Muslims, women, African Americans, veterans, and others – would be unthinkable.
Today, I endorsed Hillary Clinton to be our next president. I know that some of you will be disappointed with that decision. But I believe that, at this moment, our country, our values, and our common vision for a transformed America, are best served by the defeat of Donald Trump and the election of Hillary Clinton.
You should know that in the weeks since the last primary, both campaigns have worked together in good faith to bridge some of the policy issues that divided us during the election. Did we come to agreement on everything? Of course not. But we made important steps forward.
Hillary Clinton released a debt free college plan that we developed together which now includes free tuition at public colleges and universities for working families. This was a major part of our campaign’s agenda and a proposal that, if enacted into law, would revolutionize higher education in this country.
Secretary Clinton has also publicly committed to massive investments in health care for communities across this country that will increase primary care, including mental health care, dental care, and low-cost prescription drug access for an additional 25 million people. Importantly, she has also endorsed the enactment of a so-called public option to allow everyone in this country to participate in a public insurance program. This idea was killed by the insurance industry during consideration of President Obama’s health care program.

So Bernie negotiated some changes in the Clinton campaign platform. This is irrelevant. Progressive changes have zero chance to be implemented within the current political structure. For me the main appeal of Bernie was the promise to: (1) use mass movement and pressure to override the resistance of the lobby government; and (2) attempt to change this structure.

Now it is business as usual.

For those that are mad at Bernie, what did you want him to do? What outcome would you have preferred for Bernie and for the election?

This whole thread is idiotic. Bernie ran on the Democratic ticket. It's a sell-out to support the Democratic nominee?

Bernie may not agree with some of Clinton's positions, but I guarantee she is closer to him on most issues than Trump is. As it's a binary choice, he has to choose one of those two so he chose to support the sane one.

Maybe Bernie can get a job in Real Estate.

YesYNot says

For those that are mad at Bernie, what did you want him to do?

I don't particularly care what he does now, because it's not of much consequence. His legacy is behind him. He showed that a true left-wing candidate has a realistic chance of being elected.

Now we have to wait and see who will be elected first - a right wing or a left wing populist. The former can be as soon as this fall. One of the two is inevitable in the near future, imho.

FP says

One of the two is inevitable in the near future, imho

Would you prefer a right wing or left wing populist?

YesYNot says

Would you prefer a right wing or left wing populist?

You can't tell from my comments? I'm that good acting as impartial observer, eh? :)

I knew there was a big reveal coming for the "Feel the Bern" movement.

So Errc did it Burn?

Feel the Bern was the worst campaign slogan ever btw.
He should have fired the little shit that told him that had viralbility immediately.
Had he won it would have been been very difficult to campaign against "Don't get Berned again".

errc says

There's definitely money involved. The Saudi/Isis blood money that the Clintons depend on, said tell Bernie whatever you have to, so that he shuts up and goes away. Once you dispose of him, you can revert back to doing Allahs work. Lying and screwing people over is all you know!

thanks for posting this! It is possible there are visitors to this site who didn't know what a delusional retarded dumbfuck, you are, and now they know!

The more you know

bernie is great! wait bernie is supporting hillary? what an asshole!
elizabeth warren is great! so smart! really wants to fix the system? Elizabeth just supported Hillary? what a bitch!
Ruth Bader Ginsberg! best justice ever. oh wait, she's saying anti trump stuff, which basically means pro hillary? senile bitch!

the ego an arrogance of you dumbfucks, to think you know better than the true progressive icons of our political world.

Bernie was fooled by the magic clown formerly living in a Maine Town's sewers, but whose appetite is now so strong a few kids won't satiate it.

Hillary for President: "America, We all FLOAT DOWN HERE!"

FP says

You can't tell from my comments?

From many of your comments, I believe you would prefer a left wing populist like Bernie. However, when talking about Bernie's small concessions from Clinton, you seem disappointed him.
When it became clear that Bernie could not get elected this year, he decided to work to stop trump rather than be a spoiler and get trump elected. This is basically an effort to make the populist who wins a left wing one. So there seems to me that there is some contradiction in your posts, but you are leaving a lot unsaid. That is why I was asking.

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

you know better than the true progressive

Yeah but... Hillary .