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By indigenous following x   2017 Feb 8, 5:40pm 4,171 views   16 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


1   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2017 Feb 8, 5:59pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Except the "class of aliens" cannot be based on religion.

Says the constitution.

He could have done the same based on data from terrorism analysts without raising a tenth of the attention this got.
But that's assuming the whole point wasn't in fact to create a PC shit storm.

The media and the leftists are sometime living in their bubble, and don't realize that a majority of Americans may in fact agree with that shit.

2   indigenous   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 8, 6:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

That conflicts with the OP

3   someone else   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 8, 6:17pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says

Except the "class of aliens" cannot be based on religion.

You sure about that?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

That's about Congress, and laws.

Not about the president's clearly stated right to restrict entry of aliens, who are not even citizens.

4   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2017 Feb 8, 6:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The First Amendment not only allows citizens the freedom to practice any religion of their choice, but also prevents the government from officially recognizing or favoring any religion.

Discriminating against one religion clearly favors others.

5   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2017 Feb 8, 6:22pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Establishment Clause has been found not to apply in other cases regarding immigration.

The SCOTUS has traditionally been loathe to restrict the Plenary Power Doctrine of the Government.

Persecuted Religious minorities being explicitly considered grounds for asylum/refugee status are all over the USC, in Treaties that are the Law of the Land because the Congress has voted them in, in other International law, and much more.

So by tossing that, essentially any persecuted group inside a country currently banned could not be made exceptions for, which makes a joke out of defining refugees.

Other parts of the US Code say the Government can discriminate right down to the level of areas WITHIN a foreign country, or persecution from Non State Actors.

If 9th Circuit (the most overturned court in the country, btw) upholds it, it would essentially be impossible to make exceptions for persecuted Falun Gong or Catholics if you banned Mainland Chinese from entering the USA. Or, if this was WW2, admitting JWs or Jews or dissident Priests being persecuted by the Nazis if you banned 3rd Reich citizens from immigrating.

6   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2017 Feb 8, 6:24pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

If you took it to it's logical conclusion, even banning by nation-state might be an offense: "Discriminating in regards to National Origin."

Of course, the end-game is a borderless world established by multilateral treaties where powerful multinational corporations can do as they please without restriction.

7   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2017 Feb 8, 6:34pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Ironman says

And it wasn't, the EO was based on a COUNTRY (or specifically 7 countries, a religion was NEVER mentioned in it.

That's nice but we all know he chose 7 poster-child Ishlamish countries and did so following his promise to ban Muslims.
You can squabble and quibble but it's kind of obvious that religion was involved in the decision.

8   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2017 Feb 8, 6:38pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says

That's nice but we all know he chose 7 poster-child Ishlamish countries and did so following his promise to ban Muslims.

You can squabble and quibble but it's kind of obvious that religion was involved in the decision.

As the Boston Federal Judge who refused to extend the original injunction (something the media glosses over and commits half-truths with this important ommission) hours before Robart the Feminazi Rape Culture Symp imposed it for Washington without any written explanation,

What counts is what's in the EO. It'll be a helluva slippery slope if the Courts have to consider Campaign Rhetoric in making decisions about curtailing the President's immigration and foreign policy decisions which traditionally the courts have been extremely loathe to do.

9   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2017 Feb 8, 6:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Ironman says

If you really believe it was religion, why were the other 37+ Muslim countries left out? Kinda blows your narrative, doesn't it??

That's already 7 less countries. Good to take as a Muslim ban.

11   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2017 Feb 8, 6:55pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Section 5 only makes exceptions for persecuted religious minorities. In Syria, that means Druze, Alawites, Shi'a as well as Christians. Why? USC Code says non-state actors can be source of persecution.

Very dangerous precedent! Forbids the governement from banning a nation state persecuting a minority, from making an exception in defiance of all international law and other parts of the USC, for those being persecuted. Totally ridiculous and a major impediment to Foreign Policy and the globally undisputed right of Parens Patriae.

It would be... Unprecedented.

Don't believe the hype.

12   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2017 Feb 8, 7:31pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

ASSHOLES!
The only opinion that counts now is 3 judges.

You have nothing.

HEY YOU & his multitude of followers/believers can spend their money where they chose.
And the enemy has nothing.

13   indigenous   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 8, 7:35pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEY YOU says

HEY YOU & his multitude of followers/believers

A whole gang of tard boys...

14   BlueSardine   ignore (2)   2017 Feb 8, 8:42pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Religion, by it's very nature, is based on a "class of aliens"...

Heraclitusstudent says

Except the "class of aliens" cannot be based on religion.

15   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (5)   2017 Feb 8, 8:55pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

So I'm done with Muslims. Arguments about the constitution be damned, Trumps doing the right thing.

While the entire clip is worth watching, 3:03 tells you all you need to know. And these assholes are attending OUR universities? Americans in Michigan should be torching Dearborn.


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