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1   someone else   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 13, 12:37pm   ↑ like (7)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

France is running straight into the paradox of tolerance.

Islam uses Western tolerance to spread Islamic intolerance.

2   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (1)   2017 Feb 13, 12:42pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Policies like the mass immigration Merkel pushed are facilitating the emergence of the extreme right in Europe.
If they continue to push for this, the EU will be destroyed. The left needs to stop being dogmatic and start looking at the practical consequences of what they are doing.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-13/le-pen-calls-protesters-scum-after-paris-cop-charged-with-rape

3   Peter P   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 13, 12:58pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Heraclitusstudent says

Policies like the mass immigration Merkel pushed are facilitating the emergence of the extreme right in Europe.

Are they stupid or are they trying to cultivate the next Hitler? This is getting out of hand.

I doubt the EU will survive anyway.

4   Entitlemented   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 13, 4:21pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Heraclitusstudent says

emergence of the extreme right in Europe

Not at all, rather, Chinese, French, Belgians dont want to be harrassed and robbed just for getting on a bus or walking down the street.

These dictatorships at once create a great need/desire to depart their country, however, the spirit of dictatorship/totalitarianism when mixed with an overly patriartical mindset creates large scale violence. Rather vicious/murderous violence as has been reported.

I would think that they would be overflowing with gratitude when welcomed into a liberal country thats offers welfare, and residence, but what do I know?

5   Entitlemented   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 13, 4:23pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says

Islam uses Western tolerance to spread Islamic intolerance.

I still have people stating that if we just gave them more free stuff, more upscale housing, jobs, that they would stop this........

Feel terrible about the good middle easterners, but this large scale crime and murder must be stopped by using methods as aggressive as those who plot and commit evil against innocent victims.

6   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 13, 4:41pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says

Islam uses Western tolerance to spread Islamic intolerance.

And heaven only knows we want to duplicate the same thing here.

7   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (1)   2017 Feb 13, 4:43pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Entitlemented says

Not at all

Far right parties are booming in Europe. Austria, France, Germany, Netherland....

By insisting on a misguided moralistic attitude, the left absolutely creates this reaction.

8   Entitlemented   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 13, 4:49pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Mohammeds took over parts of Andalucia a few hundred years ago.

What drove them out?

9   someone else   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 13, 4:52pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Peter P says

Are they stupid or are they trying to cultivate the next Hitler? This is getting out of hand.

I think they are worried about their demographic crisis, which is the inevitable result of state-sanctioned feminism.

This feminism has decimated the birth rate for the native French and Germans, so the elite are quite nervous that retirees will not be paid their pensions and other promised benefits simply due to a lack of young workers, and this could in turn cause problems for the elite, perhaps even a wholesale revolt.

So they are promoting the mass immigration of very foreign and overtly hostile people to fill the gap in workers. But these new "workers" seem uninclined to work, or to assimilate. And this is also likely to cause a revolt - either by the new immigrants, or by the natives.

Or maybe the European elites simply hate the majority of their own population, the way that our coastal elites hate the majority of American whites in the middle.

10   Entitlemented   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 13, 4:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I am starting to consider another cause of the Christian Crusades. The inquisition started in Spain no? Look what happened a couple of hundred years prior to the Inquisition....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Muslim_presence_in_the_Iberian_Peninsula#Decline_and_submission_to_Christian_rule_.281130.E2.80.931481.29

11   curious2   ignore (1)   2017 Feb 13, 5:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Peter P says

Are they stupid or are they trying to cultivate the next Hitler?

Petrodollar baksheesh corrupts the politicians and opinion leaders, and the rest are stupid (book smart but not street smart: they can recite the talking points, but cannot discern when their trusted leaders are lying to them).

12   bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Feb 13, 7:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says

I think they are worried about their demographic crisis, which is the inevitable result of state-sanctioned feminism.

This feminism has decimated the birth rate for the native French and Germans, so the elite are quite nervous that retirees will not be paid their pensions and other promised benefits simply due to a lack of young workers, and this could in turn cause problems for the elite, perhaps even a wholesale revolt.

So they are promoting the mass immigration of very foreign and overtly hostile people to fill the gap in workers. But these new "workers" seem uninclined to work, or to assimilate. And this is also likely to cause a revolt - either by the new immigrants, or by the natives.

Or maybe the European elites simply hate the majority of their own population, the way that our coastal elites hate the majority of American whites in the middle.

WTF are you babbling about?

Femminism decimated birth rates? Birth rates drop with wealth and good health care. Nothing to do with feminism. . Andorra, Monaco, Japan, South Korea, and Singapore have lowest birth rates. Ooh, the feminism boogeyman.

Promoting mass immigration? France has 9% foreign born vs US 13%. Over half of those are european. The vast majority of muslim's (nice code words, very foreign and overtly hostile. Didn't have the balls to say muslim?) in france are from north africe, (mostly algeria) that came in the 50's and 60's and their offspring. They are openly hated and discriminated against, pushed into poverty stricken high crime ghettos with little possibility of making a decent living. There is very little opportunity to assimilate in france as a north african or arab.

But hey don't let reality get in the way of a good fairy tale.

OMG, the "coastal elites" boogeyman. You and tl live in a very strange distorted world of fear and paranoia.

13   Peter P   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 13, 8:09pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says

This feminism has decimated the birth rate for the native French and Germans, so the elite are quite nervous that retirees will not be paid their pensions and other promised benefits simply due to a lack of young workers, and this could in turn cause problems for the elite, perhaps even a wholesale revolt.

I am against militant feminism, but Japan also faces the same birth rate issue. At least the Japanese are building robots...

14   Peter P   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 13, 8:12pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Entitlemented says

The inquisition started in Spain no?

I'm glad the Inquisition happened. Just had Spanish food the other day. The Jamon was so delicious. Also loved the pork shoulder!

15   MMR   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 13, 8:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says

Japan, South Korea, and Singapore have lowest birth rates. Ooh, the feminism boogeyman.

The chief reason for the dearth of births is the decline of marriage. Fewer people are opting to wed, and those who do are getting married later in life. At least a third of young women aim to become full-time housewives, yet they struggle to find men who can support a traditional family. In better economic times potential suitors had permanent jobs as part of Japan’s “lifetime employment” system

http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2014/07/economist-explains-16

16   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 13, 8:49pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

bob2356 says

They are openly hated and discriminated against, pushed into poverty stricken high crime ghettos with little possibility of making a decent living.

You're describing their attitudes towards their host countries. They create their own high crime ghettos and have little intention of "making a living". They have no intention of assimilating into French culture as they despise the West.

bob2356 says

There is very little opportunity to assimilate in france as a north african or arab.

Then why don't they stay in Africa and Araby.

bob2356 says

the "coastal elites"

Are the only ones who gave Hillary her popular majority.

17   MMR   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 13, 8:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Peter P says

Jamon was so delicious. Also loved the pork shoulder!

Serrano and acorn fed iberico...just say yes

18   MMR   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 13, 8:56pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says

They are openly hated and discriminated against, pushed into poverty stricken high crime ghettos with little possibility of making a decent living. T

There are lot of tamilians from Sri Lanka and Pondicherry in France also. Don't hear about them rioting. Worst article I could find was this about extortion. Small potatoes compared to ghettoized muslims.

Muslims are ghettoized in India. I guess the man is holding them down there also.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2009/11/24/world/europe/24briefs-FranceBrf.html

19   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 13, 9:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

the Chinese are complaining about being bullied by a bunch of a goat herders? hahaha this is pathetic.

i thought every single one of these fuckers is a master of kungfu? China, Hongkong, Taiwan (basically all chink countries) spend billions of dollars a year on fictitious movies showcasing to the world different types of martial arts that supposedly have been passed on for thousands of years. you know, the really really secretive and deadly moves no one knows but them. there are tons of documentaries showing Chinese demonstrating all kinds of impossible moves. yet every single one of them got destroyed in the MMA rings, why? do their martial arts really work? when asked, they always say their shit is for real fights not for sports. then why can't they fight these camel fuckers?

there have been a lot of famous Thai, Korean and Japanese fighters in MMAs but never a Chinese. hmm..you've got to wonder.

one thing we know for sure: Chinese are the master of bullshit. their whole culture is based on doing shitty things to get ahead. everywhere Chinese go, there are cheap, knock off products, copyright infringements, endless frauds, identity thefts, tax evasions, human trafficking, organ harvesting, etc etc. why not add one more thing to this list of fake shit they produce: SHITTY, USELESS, WORTHLESS KUNG FU.

20   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 13, 9:25pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks says

Chinese are the master of bullshit.

Ching ching wow wow woo!

21   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 14, 8:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Nate made a long comment in response to the story about Trump meeting with Trudeau that is a good summary of what to expect from Islam:

"What happens to countries that Muslims occupy? As long as the islamist following population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness: United States Muslim 1.0% Australia Muslim 1.5% Canada Muslim 1.9% China Muslim 1%-2% Italy Muslim 1.5% Norway Muslim 1.8% At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs: Denmark Muslim 2% Germany Muslim 3.7% United Kingdom Muslim 2.7% Spain Muslim 4% Thailand Muslim 4.6% From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves along with threats for failure to comply. (United States ). France Muslim 8% Philippines Muslim 5% Sweden Muslim 5% Switzerland Muslim 4.3% The Netherlands Muslim 5.5% Trinidad &Tobago Muslim 5.8% At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris car-burnings)" (Con't Comment 22)

22   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 14, 8:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

"Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam Mohammed cartoons). Guyana Muslim 10% India Muslim 13.4% Israel Muslim 16% Kenya Muslim 10% Russia Muslim 10-15% After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning: Ethiopia Muslim 32.8% At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare: Bosnia Muslim 40% Chad Muslim 53.1% Lebanon Muslim 59.7%"

23   TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy   ignore (1)   2017 Feb 15, 3:23pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

MMR says

Muslims are ghettoized in India. I guess the man is holding them down there also.

Islam is a prime example of a religion-culture that is extremely aggressive, and justifies this via Victimhood.

It's why self-righteousness is probably the greatest human problem, since it permits - even encourages - otherwise decent people do bad things because butthurt and chip on shoulder.

24   bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Feb 15, 9:33pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

P N Dr Lo R says

bob2356 says

They are openly hated and discriminated against, pushed into poverty stricken high crime ghettos with little possibility of making a decent living.

You're describing their attitudes towards their host countries. They create their own high crime ghettos and have little intention of "making a living". They have no intention of assimilating into French culture as they despise the West.

bob2356 says

There is very little opportunity to assimilate in france as a north african or arab.

Then why don't they stay in Africa and Araby.

Maybe you should try to learn a little about what you are talking about.

France isn't their host country. Algerians were french citizens after the statute of algeria in 1947 until independence in 1962. They were brought in as cheap labour in large numbers during the 1950's. The people living in the banlieues are second, third, even fourth generation french citizens. Why didn't southern blacks assimilate for 100 years after the civil war? Same reasons. Companies won't hire them, people won't rent to them or sell them houses outside the banlieues, voting was suppressed, and they were openly discriminated against, . North africans in france today are treated worse than southern blacks ever were. The french created their own ticking time bomb long before fundamentalist terrorism was on anybody's radar. Now it's blowing up in their faces.

25   curious2   ignore (1)   2017 Feb 16, 12:23am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says

North africans in france today are treated worse than southern blacks ever were.

Nominated.

bob2356, please visit Chicago and read that statement aloud in an area like Lincoln Park. By all means, support your argument with charts and graphs, and keep defending your argument. I hope the locals will take the time to prove you wrong rather than making you into a statistic or viral video, but either way, give it a try.

WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch says

Islam is a prime example of a religion-culture that is extremely aggressive, and justifies this via Victimhood.

I think we should have a term for non-Muslims who embrace that phony Islamic narrative. I suggest Para-Muslim Syndrome, or P-MS.

North African Muslims in France have two problems, the first being Islam itself. It produces the same problems from Sweden to Italy, and across to India. Islamic hatred of non-Muslims impedes successful integration. Islamic crime including homicides and sexual assaults against non-Muslims has a tendency to produce criminal records. Muslims are disproportionately represented among ADP baggage handlers, but hundreds have had to be let go due to Islamic terrorism (e.g., one murdered a priest in church). As the economy shifted from manufacturing to services, criminal records and wanting to kill the customers became more of a barrier to employment, thus compounding the impact of the pre-existing Islamic problem.

North African Christians do not have these problems, and can integrate much better.





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